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Weird object in my picture of CA fire.

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posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 03:43 PM
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Who on this site has a good background in this stuff that hasn't already responded in the thread........anyone? And pic analysis besides who I've already emailed it to?

How about the cryptozoology forum?




posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:10 PM
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Great Pic, I live not too far away up in Agoura Hills, so I'll have to keep an eye out more often.
I too can not figure it out. I can say though, that I don't think it's overtly "a bird" or "a plane" or obviously anything really. It's a mystery at this point.
I did notice though that in the original enhancement, it looks more metallic, but in some of the other enhancements, it looks more organic really.
I'm interested to see an "experts" analysis.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:17 PM
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it looks like a big bird, there's scrub in the middle ground, it could be hunting. a condor seems the likeliest explanation, they can travel well over a 100 miles a day so ''20 miles from condor peak'' is backyard territory. but it could be any other large bird. seems the most likely explanation.

i don't see how you can judge the distance to the object as there isn't any good reference point. i'ld imagine the reason you didn't see it when taking the photo is because you were watching the fire, your mind disregarded everything else.

OP, what do you think it is?



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:23 PM
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Correct I didnt see it until I reviewed the photos inside the house. I was looking at the smoke.

What do I think it is? Well it looks metalic to me and after that last analysis I see points on the surface area that stick out is a star-like angle form so it seems to look like metal to me, definitely not a bird.

I did notice that it looks like there is some type of bluring between each of the three points where it looks like webbing of some sort.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:32 PM
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well, for me it looks like this:



usually it is said to be a big alien vessel or even the 10th planet/planet X (X=10 ;-)), hosting the annunaki.

anyway, this remindend me of agyptian and babylonian, persian, sumerian.. pictures.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:37 PM
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interesting, and not a million miles difference between this and the belgian triangular shaped object in the other front page ATS thread atm



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by 0xxCAMOGUYxx0
this is NOT a picture of a beatle.


I agree; it looks NOTHING at all like John, Paul, Ringo, or even George.



If it were, though, I am sure it would be John.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:57 PM
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I would like to see a higher res copy of the picture. Wasn't someone sent the picture for reposting. Wondered what happened. Must have ended up in the bit bucket.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:05 PM
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reply to post by favouriteslave
I at first thought that it was a plane carrying a water bucket. But you have stated that there were not any aircraft to be seen or heard so it seems that would not be the case.



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:17 PM
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[color=#80c0e0]Here is the EXIF-IPT-IFD Data for the OPs image that contains the anomaly.


Namespace Prefix Meaning
aux Additional EXIF schema
crs Camera Raw Schema
dc Dublin Core schema
exif EXIF schema
pdf Adobe Portable Document Format schema
photoshop Adobe Photoshop schema
rdf Resource Description Framework schema
tiff EXIF schema for TIFF
xap (obsolete designation for XMP)
xmp Extensible Metadata Platform Basic schema
xmpBJ XMP Basic Job Ticket schema
xmpDM XMP Dynamic Media schema
xmpMM XMP Media Management schema
xmpRights XMP Rights Management schema
xmpTPg XMP Paged-Text schema


IPTC Core (Adobe XMP)

2007-09-03T02:36:20Z


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  • xmp:xmpmeta
    o xmlns:xmp = "adobe:ns:meta/"
    o rdf:RDF
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    + rdf: Description
    # rdf:about = "uuid:faf5bdd5-ba3d-11da-ad31-d33d75182f1b"
    # xmlns:MicrosoftPhoto = "http://ns.microsoft.com/photo/1.0"
    # MicrosoftPhoto: DateAcquired ==> "2007-09-03T02:36:20Z"
  • xpacket = end='w'

    Exif IFD0
  • Camera Make = EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY
  • Camera Model = KODAK Z730 ZOOM DIGITAL CAMERA
  • Picture Orientation = normal (1)
  • X-Resolution = 230/1 = 230.00
  • Y-Resolution = 230/1 = 230.00
  • X/Y-Resolution Unit = inch (2)
  • Y/Cb/Cr Positioning (Subsampling) = centered / center of pixel array (1)
  • Unknown tag: Tagnum = 0xea1c ===> data = SNIPPED FOR LENGTH

    Exif Sub IFD
  • Exposure Time (1 / Shutter Speed) = 1/30 second = 0.03333 second
  • Lens F-Number/F-Stop = 48/10 = F4.80
  • Exposure Program = normal program (2)
  • ISO Speed Ratings = 80
  • Exif Version = 0221
  • Original Date/Time = 2007:09:02 19:12:34
  • Digitization Date/Time = 2007:09:02 19:12:34
  • Components Configuration = 0x01,0x02,0x03,0x00 / YCbCr
  • Shutter Speed Value (APEX) = 50/10 Shutter Speed (Exposure Time) = 1/32.00 second
  • Aperture Value (APEX) = 45/10 Aperture = F4.76
  • Exposure Bias (EV) = 0/10 = 0.00
  • Max Aperture Value (APEX) = 42/10 = 4.20 Max Aperture = F4.29
  • Metering Mode = center weighted average (2)
  • Light Source / White Balance = daylight (1)
  • Flash = Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
  • Focal Length = 121/10 mm = 12.10 mm
  • Maker Note = SNIPPED FOR LENGTH
  • FlashPix Version = 0100
  • Colour Space = sRGB (1)
  • Image Width = 2576 pixels
  • Image Height = 1932 pixels
  • Exposure Index = 80/1
  • Image Sensing Method = one-chip color area sensor (2)
  • Image Source = digital still camera (DSC)
  • Scene Type = directly photographed image
  • Custom Rendered = normal process (0)
  • Exposure Mode = auto exposure (0)
  • White Balance = manual (1)
  • Digital Zoom Ratio = 0/100 = 0.00
  • Focal Length in 35mm Film = 73
  • Scene Capture Type = landscape (1)
  • Gain Control = n/a (0)
  • Contrast = normal (0)
  • Saturation = normal (0)
  • Sharpness = hard (2)
  • Subject Distance Range = unknown (0)
  • Unknown tag: Tagnum = 0xea1c ===> data = SNIPPED FOR LENGTH
  • Unknown tag: Tagnum = 0xea1d ===> data = 3796

    Exif IFD1
  • Compression = JPEG compression (6)
  • X-Resolution = 1/96 = 0.01
  • Y-Resolution = 1/96 = 0.01
  • X/Y-Resolution Unit = inch (2)
  • Offset to the start byte (SOI) of JPEG compressed thumbnail data = 7434
  • JPEG Interchange Format Length = 3440

    Exif Interoperability IFD
  • Interoperability Index = R98
  • Interoperability Version = 0100


  • [edit on 9/3/2007 by damajikninja]



    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:20 PM
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    I sent an original to Watch_the_Rocks. If anyone else wants an original U2U me and I'll email it to you. I did post an original but it was from photo bucket. I didn't rezise it as I did in my first post.

    In the US it's a holiday so maybe he's out for now.



    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:46 PM
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    Originally posted by favouriteslave




    Dang what is it, in this picture the three arms sorta look equal in length almost like propellers

    neil.fraser.name...



    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:22 PM
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    Our water dropping helicopters here are yellow and some are white/red. I've just located a spotter helicopter and it's just a white spec compared to my "object" pic. It's a tiny white dot up and left of my neighbors ugly chimney.

    Right now the fire is even worse than last night. Then I saw some stupid hanglider over in the mountains to the right, whadda dummy being so close to a fire.



    [edit on 3-9-2007 by favouriteslave]

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    [edit on 3-9-2007 by favouriteslave]



    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:27 PM
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    ok well this is just me but does the smoke look like a mushroom (aka nuke) maybe what is in the photo is mothman and he is forwarning us about a nuclear fallout? well that's just me... very interesting photo tho.



    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:42 PM
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    On the right is a picture of a California Condor in flight. I don't think it could make the shape in the picture at any angle, the body is too short compared to the wingspan.




    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:45 PM
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    It's a tiny white dot up and left of my neighbors ugly chimney.


    WOW it must really be tiny cause I can't find it.



    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:47 PM
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    Originally posted by Darth Cheesecake
    On the right is a picture of a California Condor in flight. I don't think it could make the shape in the picture at any angle, the body is too short compared to the wingspan.



    Yup, there is no way it is a bird.
    If only the center wasn't blurry.

    [edit on 3-9-2007 by Stormdancer777]



    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:47 PM
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    If you take note of the rather dead pixels (unresolved) on the foward edge, I think thats where the answer is.

    I took those pixels and sharpened them, and did a slight level adjust. It has a rounded nose, which leads me to think we're seeing a helicopter, it's 3rd blade behind the rear tail.

    You'll also see on the read appendage (left side) what could be a rear rotor, so stabilizer.



    The left and right appendages, the left is blurred down, and the right blurred up, it's slight but see-able. Just what I'd expect from spinning rotors.

    I dont think there's enough really to tell anything for certain, but I'd bet on a helicopter. The deadened pixels make life tough for small objects, as it could also be a bird...but I doubt that due to the amount of apparent distance hazing. But how much of that is from the fire (smoke)...who knows.

    I dont know if the OP saw any helicopters, or birds flying about. This is really just my best at trying to see whats goin on in a photo that doesnt really give up much data to me.



    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:49 PM
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    I do think the OP nailed it on the head when he referenced a hang glider seen near the fire the next day. After looking at lots of hang glider pics, I believe that is the object in question. Just my opinion.


    www.flickr.com...



    posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 06:56 PM
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    That thought crossed my mind too, except doesn't the wings of a hang glider go in a V shape downward not upward?
    uhaweb.hartford.edu...



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