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Now Police Are Told They Can Use Taser Guns On Children

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posted on Sep, 2 2007 @ 03:56 PM
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Now Police Are Told They Can Use Taser Guns On Children


www.dailymail.co.uk

Police have been given the go-ahead to use Taser stun guns against children.

The relaxing of restrictions on the use of the weapons comes despite warnings that they could trigger a heart attack in youngsters.


Until now, Tasers - which emit a 50,000-volt electric shock - have been used only by specialist officers as a "non lethal" alternative to firearms.

However, they can now be used against all potentially violent offenders even if they are unarmed.


(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Sep, 2 2007 @ 03:56 PM
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Amazing!

Over 200 adults have died after being "Tased", and now they think it would be safe to "Tase" children? There hasn't been any sort of research as of yet, on how safe it would be to "Tase" children, they say.

Well, how safe can it be to use on children when over 200 adults have died from cardiac arrest after being "Tased"?

Any law enforcement officer should be able to restrain a child without having to "Tase" them. If they can't, maybe they should look for another line of work.



www.dailymail.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)


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posted on Sep, 2 2007 @ 04:22 PM
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I live in North Carolina ,
and this has been policy since my daughter graduated from
high school in 2005.She has told me these things and
is now in her second year of college
It seems the high school students were fighting at such a rate
that sitting through a class or lunch period without some kind of
altercation was impossible.
A teacher had stepped between two students that were fighting trying to calm the situation and his jaw was broken.A police officer was also assaulted and hospitalized and so they instituted the new policy.
They will warn the students two or three times to cease fighting, and if they do not .they BOTH are tazared, no matter who is right or wrong.
Suspensions and expelling for the year are also on the table as well as criminal charges.

My youngest son started at the same high school this year and they told the entire student body the same rules , first day!

He says , no kid wants to be in a fetal position peeing themselves
in front of the crowd that has gathered for the fight......

So, they just don't fight anymore.........well not like they used to anyway.

I would love to hear someone that has some real experience with high school students offer a better way of dealing with the violence that is so prevalent in our society today............



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 12:14 AM
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Home Office Police Minister Tony McNulty said medical assessments had confirmed the risk of death or serious injury from Tasers was "low".
www.dailymail.co.uk...


Well it's good to know that risk of death is "low", but it does happen.


Taser International, the American firm that makes the device, said tests on pigs suggested the weapons were safe.


And so far the pigs they zapped have survived. I guess that's a good thing.
A 9 mil through the chest or head is likely more fatal than 50,000 volts.


This one disturbed me though:


Miami-Dade police have announced a review of policy after two kids were zapped with Tasers within a couple of weeks of each other. Tasers fire wire probes which hit suspects with a debilitating electric shock.

The first incident involved a six-year old boy who was Tasered at his elementary school. He had broken a picture and was threatening to cut his leg with the glass. Police defended the decision saying they were happy to talk about use of the Taser rather than talking about injuries the child could have done to himself.
www.theregister.co.uk...



I can't think of any situation where an adult couldn't restrain a little six year old without having to resort to shocking the child into a puddle of his own urine. I'd certainly have some questions for the officer that chose this course of action over just grabbing the little kid and possibly giving him a swat on the bottom for misbehaving.
At six years old you can't possibly have the skills to deal with police in a situation where you're completely stressed out.:shk:



Edit: OCD



[edit on 3/9/2007 by anxietydisorder]



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 02:21 AM
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Wow I read over some things that weren't included in the OP article. So they really are tazering some kids aren't they, actual kids... sheesh. I Don't even know what to really say about it.

[edit on 3-9-2007 by fweshcawfee]



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 03:39 AM
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A six year old is a child anyway you define it.

I realize some children as young as twelve could be a threat to themselves or an officer of the law, but really, tazering a six year old because he has a piece of glass in his hand ???

I'd just grab him and take it away instead of jolting the little bugger with 50,000 volts.
Just how much harm can a kid that young do with a piece of glass.


He needs a spanking and mental help, not police intervention.


Oh God, I've woken up in a world gone mad.........:bnghd:



posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 05:01 AM
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I really need to add a few links to this thread for everyones information....


A 16-year veteran of the Broomfield Police Department was arrested over the weekend on charges of child abuse resulting in serious bodily injury.

William A. "Skip" Van Arsdale, 42, of Broomfield was booked and released Sunday on charges related to a Nov. 20 incident in which a girl in his home was injured with a Taser.

The case stems from a claim that while Van Arsdale was demonstrating the weapon it “struck the girl at or near her right eye and caused her serious injury,” said Assistant 17th Judicial District Attorney Michael Goodbee. “Based on that, he’s been charged with child abuse resulting in serious bodily injury through criminal negligence.”
www.dailycamera.com...


Sure, accidents happen.....



A lawsuit was filed Monday February 28, 2005, as a result of the death of a 21-year-old man who was killed after being shocked repeatedly with a Taser stungun by police.

Taser manufactures the controversial stungun and is being sued for knowingly marketing a dangerously defective weapon as safe and nonlethal. The stun-gun has allegedly killed numerous individuals.

His father Andrew Washington Sr filed the product liability lawsuit on behalf of Andrew Washington Jr.

According to Amnesty International, 94 people have died in the United States as well as Canada after being shocked with the Taser stungun.
houston.injuryhelpline.com...


I love this lawyer speak:
"The stun-gun has allegedly killed numerous individuals'

As long as it's only allegedly, it may not have really happened.




Chicago began using a handful of the guns in 2003. Today, there are at least 200 of them in the hands of Chicago cops. Nationally, more than 100,000 police officers carry Tasers.

And people are dying. On February 10, Chicago police fired a Taser at 54-year-old Ronald Hasse, who collapsed and died. The same day, in San Diego, a man was Tasered and died two days later. A few days earlier, a 14-year-old boy went into cardiac arrest after police used a stun gun on him at his school.
www.socialistworker.org...



An add-on to an incedent around the time of the six year old boy that got zapped involve a 12 year old girl:


According to the incident report, officer William Nelson responded to a complaint that children were swimming in a pool, drinking alcohol and smoking cigars on the morning of Nov. 5.

Nelson said he noticed the girl was intoxicated and was walking her to his car to take her back to school when she ran away through a parking lot.

Nelson, 38, said he chased her and yelled several times for her to stop before firing the Taser when she began to run into traffic. The electric probes hit the girl in the neck and lower back, immobilizing her.

Nelson said he fired "for my safety along with (the girl's) safety." Paramedics treated the girl, who went home with her mother.

Parker said department policy permits officers to use the Taser to apprehend someone, but he said he expected his officers to use better judgment, especially when police had no plans to arrest the girl.

The first incident had already exposed the department to more criticism for its use of Tasers, which it has begun distributing in greater numbers to officers.

The 6-year-old boy was shocked on Oct. 20 in the principal's office at Kelsey Pharr Elementary School. Principal Maria Mason called 911 after the child broke a picture frame in her office and waved a piece of glass, holding a security guard back.
www.foxnews.com...



I'm not sure how the officers safety was at risk ???
Was he intending to run into traffic as well.


And who among us couldn't bring down a 12 year old girl by just jumping on her, or was she some sort of gigantic 12 year old girl with super-powers ?

And the police had no intention of arresting her in the first place.


I just shake my head.

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OK, I may have gotten a bit ahead of myself there:
I don't think this jelly belly with thunder thighs could chase down a 12 year old girl.







[edit on 3/9/2007 by anxietydisorder]



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