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Possible UFO crash off NJ coast

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posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 12:09 PM
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I've dug as much as I could and have found nothing. There is nothing anymore in local area papers regarding this issue. The last I heard was Clean Ocean Action was looking into the illegal dumping issue, but I haven't found any pictures of the fireball or anything resembling pictures or video from that night.




posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 01:47 AM
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It's a pity there is so little information about this. There is no doubt what happened was suspicious but like so many other cases there is nothing concreate. The guys who cover this stuff up (if they exist) do a very good job.



posted on Sep, 24 2007 @ 09:42 AM
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This is my first post to ATS, as i was trying to see if anyone had seen a triangle ufo that a friend and i had witnessed in feb.

I live in north jersey, and oddly this is the first i heard of the fireball incident.

I'll tell you what, im someone whos lived in new jersey for his entire life, and whos been interested in the UFO phenomena for just as long. I always wished new jersey would be a hotspot. However, since the new year, ive ascertained from a little research that new jersey is TEEEMING with sightings now.

I dont think its any coincidence that people have sighted lights over the shore since july. And that now all of a sudden, theres a fireball/crash with little or no follow up. I'm not one to jump to conclusions. but as previously stated the behavior of the media, lack of any witnesses coming foward for EITHER side after the initial report, behavior of the s&r teams, the medical waste washing up with no photographs of the actual debris..

its all highly suspect.

Think about it, if it were something natural like a meteor, or something benign like a crashed vehicle of some intelligent design. There would be confirmation of the former, and "debunking" of the latter. The fact that no one has stepped forward to describe DEFINITIVE meteor behavior, along with the fact that there hasn't been a CGI fake to discredit unexplained origin. No, they just swept it under the rug, and fast. Im sure everyone on that beach got a visit from someone pretty intimidating. It seems to me that this is something huge. What? i can't say, i obviously don't know. Though im fairly certain that people have been thrown in jail on less circumstantial evidence than in this case.

I also find it odd that the EPA and other state and federal agencies supposedly contacted and dispatched to deal with this medical waste have no record of being on that beach on the day in question.

This is all highly unfortunate, as i feel like this is going to be the stuff of made for TV movies in about 20 years, reducing our credibility on the subject to less than zero.

In all my years as a new jersey resident, this is the first year where there have been a serious amount of fairly credible sightings (from what i've seen on NUFORC. etc) I myself happened to witness something i couldn't explain in February of this year. I definitely think this is a state to watch in the immediate future for some big happenings. Anyway, i hope i can contribute more to this forum if possible.

[edit on 24-9-2007 by corpsepose]



posted on Sep, 24 2007 @ 10:20 AM
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Firstly, welcome to ATS. Always glad to see new faces. And it is refreshing to read a well written post. I think you'll do fine here.

You say there seem to be a greater than usual number of reports of UFOs from your area this year. Do you have any thoughts on why this might be so? Is there a corrosponding increase in military activity? Is there any other unusual events or "happening" that might be a reason for an increase, or at least an indicator of what is going on?

I too have watched this "fireball" story and been a bit stunned that it has disappeared so well.

Again, welcome aboard.


Edit to add--Feel free to give us the details on your own sighting.

[edit on 24-9-2007 by NGC2736]



posted on Sep, 24 2007 @ 11:21 AM
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Thanks for the warm welcome. You don't see many forums these days embracing newbies.

As far as any other indicating factors, I can't say I've witnessed much. Though, i don't live near any of our military facilities, and am rather close to NYC.

If you look at youtube, theres no less than 3 different videos chronicling similar sightings on different nights from different locations on the new jersey shores this summer. I can't say that I've ever heard of anything quite like it in this region.


My own sighting was of an enormous triangle shaped craft with 4 lights that went from being overhead, and the size of a football field. To that of a star-like object on the horizon. THEN it managed to jump to the opposite end of the horizon entirely before it disappeared a few moments later. It was quite a sight to behold. My friend tried to get a picture with his camera phone, but it wasn't meant to be. Light pollution, glare, etc didn't make for a very good photograph. Suffice to say, I almost crapped my pants.



posted on Sep, 24 2007 @ 11:42 AM
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Maybe what you witnessed was one of the rumored US Air Force black triangular craft.

And maybe it was one of those that went down off the coast of NJ and THAT'S why the incident went away so quickly...

Hmmm...

Thanks for your input corpsepose, and welcome aboard!



posted on Sep, 24 2007 @ 12:07 PM
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Hey, mind telling me how i do that pseudo quoting you two both did? i can only master actual quoting.

In regards to what i saw, thats the first thing i assumed. As i wasnt inside the craft however, i cant say with certainty.

I do agree about the "crash" that it wasn't something as easily dismissed or debunked as an "alien space craft" or meteorite.

We live in cold times, and have no reason to announce our HUGELY superior arsenal of futuristic weapons. Ever wonder why the only major leaps on technology in the last 50 years have been in communications, information proliferation, home convenience, home computing, medical science. But nothing noteworthy in transportation or mastery of physical surroundings? Its pretty obvious that we have far more than we let on, and that a controlled released on previously developed products is in effect. Think about the fact that almost ALL the technology we enjoy today was "science fiction" in the 1940s-1960s. isn't it obvious that we're being fed these images to the point of ubiquity so that the leaps in technology don't seem as jarring? So that paradigm shifts are less noticed?

The fact that the mid 90s and early 2000s have yielded a TON of science fiction concepts we believe to be outside of physical possibility begs the question that "If the powers that be use fictional works to prepare the population for anomalous developments in technology in the past" arent they obviously doing that now?

I mean the fact that when i saw this particular craft, I thought to myself "HEY LOOK ITS ONE OF THOSE GOVERNMENT UFOS FROM THE X-FILES" it literally looked JUST like that. isn't that evidence enough. i wasn't shocked. i was greeting a familiar fictional image in a real life context.

makes you think doesn't it?

Something as advanced and earth shattering as a secret military vehicle that does what i saw mine do, crashing off of jersey would be HORRIBLE for the government.

edit-- and when i say medical science, we're holding a lot of that back too. blame big pharm for peddling lifelong treatments rather than simple cures. oh the economics of human wellbeing.

[edit on 24-9-2007 by corpsepose]



posted on Sep, 24 2007 @ 12:20 PM
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I also want to state for the record, that i AM NOT, NEVER HAVE, AND WILL NEVER BE A PROPONENT OF THE SECRET GOVERNMENT OR THAT WE HAVE BEEN SOLD OFF TO BECOME SLAVES OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. OR ANY OTHER NUTTY CONSPIRACY.

I just noticed that my most recent post could be viewed as leaning in that direction. I just feel that we are a lot more technologically advanced than we lead on. And that major breakthroughs occurring in the early 20th century still hadn't come to commercial fruition, though entirely feasible in concept and execution. I cant offer a definitive explanation as to why we're so much more advanced than we let on, but im almost POSITIVE with every fiber of my being that its true.

Humans are just greeeeeedy. and a lot of things we CAN do, just arent profitable monetarily in a capitalist sense despite the profit of society as a whole

[edit on 24-9-2007 by corpsepose]



posted on Sep, 24 2007 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by corpsepose
Hey, mind telling me how i do that pseudo quoting you two both did? i can only master actual quoting.


Just click on the little "REPLY TO" box to the left of the "quote" box, at the top of the post to which you wish to respond.

I agree with a lot of what you brought up.

So long as the PTB can continue to control and reap a profit through the doling out of information/technology in a self-serving linear fashion, the human race will remain shackled to the "man's" millstone.

And if they have one black triangular craft, you can bet there's a lot more where that one came from...my question would be then: what brought it down?



posted on Sep, 24 2007 @ 01:34 PM
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Suppose that a rival country or group had infiltrated one of our secret installations. Suppose they stole the craft.

The governemnt knowing they couldn't shoot it down over land, waited til it was over the ocean and shot it down.

with this scenario it doesn't even have to be a super secret anti gravity triangle. it could just as easily be a close to release spy-plane



posted on Sep, 25 2007 @ 03:33 PM
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I just found this on You Tube, it says it was a sighting on Sept 7th in New Jersey. Thought I would post it here

You Tube



posted on Sep, 25 2007 @ 06:12 PM
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It's difficult to see much in the video, maybe later in the dark...

Did you notice, our fellow forum member, DERRLL5, (remember him?) has his own video on YouTube. Actually, he's posted six in all.

video by DERRLL5/der115

It was listed in the "related" box to the right of the main video window you posted.

It has, perhaps, the longest "details" drop down I've yet to see on YouTube.



posted on Sep, 26 2007 @ 12:46 PM
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Yes I did notice that, and yes you are correct he does have the longest drop down ever on you tube. I clicked on the one, and it was nothing more then his radar pictures looped over and over. He's on every newspaper, forum, message board there is on UFO's. I looked at his information and when I was through deleted it.



posted on Sep, 30 2007 @ 08:55 AM
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[edit on 30-9-2007 by Larry B.]



posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 03:10 PM
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Coming in on this thread a bit late, but am of the opinion that Guglielmo Marconi, in the 1910s, like the early 20th Century, worked out how to make the alien's ideomobiles crash, and this technological development was stolen by the "Axis powers" - the most important crashes/kills are: 1933, south of Milan, which Marconi was himself put in charge of: 1936, inside Germany, a year which historiographers notice is unusual for a surprising plunge in documented data: 1938, just over the border between Germany & Poland: 1947, the obvious one: 1948, the Aztec crash, which relates to the deaths of Marconi scientists in Britain during the 1980s, who for some reason were chosen to back-engineer that particular no-longer-flying Eridanite craft: 1959, into Gdansk harbour, again Eridanite (in Earth's political terms, egalitarian/anti-hierarchical, in American terms, 'communist', though these most vicious of capitalists have so twisted the dictionary collocations of that word it's difficult to use), the Socorro crash April 1964: again Eridanite: and there have been some recent ones, but if you go by the distance Epsilon Eridani is from Earth, approximately 11 light years, these are the craft being brought down through Fascists manipulating some inimical vibration at them. The American junta is being particularly bad about these objects and the horizontalist, i.e., ultra-democratic society of their occupants.
And any other fascists that happen to know about it.
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posted on Oct, 13 2007 @ 04:50 PM
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XFoxMulderX,

I've been reading the thread and its much varied responses, and frankly I am getting a bit excited here!

This does seem a Roswell type incident. Witnesses see a firy object/objects disappearing over sea. Rescuers respond to a possible airplane crash. Then a cover-up starts, closing beaches 'covered' with tampons and needles (!!). A meteor shower explains everything. Followed by media silence and general amnesia.

Around 1986 I was sitting in my garden late at night, and directly above my head a meteor streaked down, quite fast, and exploded in fire. This happened seemingly at low altitude, but may wel have been a couple of miles high. No sound was heard. The trajectory appeared to be almost straight down to our neighbourhood. I was very impressed, felt privileged for having witnessed this, and never forgot.

When reading up on my observation, I learned that a meteor would have to be a fairly large chunk of material (stone + metal?) entering the atmosphere to burn up so close to the ground. Maybe the size of a car/truck.

So in the NJ story, the meteor concept cannot apply: it takes one or more sizeable asteroids to make it BURNING all the way down to the sea surface. Definitely seen on radar, and a major astronomical event, causing floodwaves and sonic booms to reach the coast.

I suspect something piloted, not of this world went under the waves, and subsequently under deep cover,

smilodon



posted on Nov, 30 2007 @ 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts


But I know it makes much better sense to immediately jump to the conclusion it was an alien ufo and the "man" and his secret cabal are in full cover-up swing.


Incredibly patronizing.


Whatever happened, it was something falling from way up in the atmosphere, strange colored lights witnessed far apart.

It's interesting. Not 'mundane' in the least.



posted on Dec, 12 2007 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by jerseygeek
To those investigating this event, a witness at Normandy Beach was named Anthony Pulsinelli. I know that's not much help, but they didn't give the usual hometown for this guy. The caption ony read Anthony Pulsinelli: Witness. This was on WPVI CH 6 evening news out of Philadelphia. They ran a few stories after that and went to commercial. They came back with "Breaking News" about Normandy and Lavalette beaches being closed due to the syringes washing up.


profile.myspace.com...

The kid is a high school sophomore in Bound Brook, NJ.



posted on Dec, 12 2007 @ 08:34 PM
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I'm glad to see this thread didn't just go away. I feel that here we have a lot of the modern era similarities to Roswell or Kecksburg.

So, the kid is just your normal teen with a blog? Has anyone from this board talked with him? would he like to sign up and talk about what he saw/knows?

The trail on this one has not yet grown cold, but it will.



posted on Sep, 2 2008 @ 09:07 PM
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It is true, there was a crash........



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