Ron Paul Delegates prevented from vote in Texas straw poll, page 8
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reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 08:26 PM by Areal51
reply to post by jsobecky


I completely understand your interpretation. It makes complete sense. However, so does another interpretation. The document states at least two times that it is in reference to preregistration. I interpret that to mean that there would not have been a registration process for those folks to take part in. They had registered online in advance. After all, that's what preregistration means. The only thing left to do would have been for them to pick up their credentials and tickets. Of course, that could be interpreted as completing registration. However, the document expresses, "Thanks for Pre-Registering!" In my view, they should have been let in to pick up their credentials and tickets at the time that they arrived. The document does not make mention of continuing the registration process on the day of the event. It only makes mention to "receive credentials at registration." Obviously, that document does not communicate effectively. To do so it would have needed to include the time that on-site registration began. And even then it still would have been loaded with contradiction just as it appears in the video.


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reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 09:01 PM by PistolPete
reply to post by Areal51

I will admit that after seven pages of people essentially saying the same thing over and over again, I begin to skim. But if you're argument isn't that Ron Paul supporters were disenfranchised in some way at an event that the Ron Paul campaign was pleased with, my mistake.


reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 09:13 PM by acmeartifacts
HOT OFF THE PRESS!!!

I just got this email through the Ron Paul Meetup group

From the Ron Paul granny warriors


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Texas Straw Poll
From: "Linda Hunnicutt "
Date: Sun, September 02, 2007 7:52 pm



Granny Warrior News
Fort Worth Straw Poll
A word of caution: This is going to be a long message and will probably take a while to load as there are many photos in here along with a lot of personal ranting: Yes Ranting, the Straw Poll was set up and as crooked as any political action I have seen in years, after 50 years of being a Republican I can honestly say I am ashamed of my association with that group. This Poll has all the earmarks of a Fascist Regime and a staged event to discredit only one man. Ron Paul. His people from San Antonio had registered online and gotten a receipt saying registration at 10 AM. The busload was there but the registrars grabed their paper work and left the tables at exactly 10 AM saying the registration ENDED at 10. They refused to allow that busload of folks into the voting area. YET... just a few moments later another group showed up that were not Paul supporters and were ushered in by the back door. Yes that was documented and photographed. Gov. Rick Perry had the audacity to say via video ( too chicken to appear in person) that Texas has no candidate in the presidential race ! who the hell does he think Ron Paul is?
The speakers were all pro war, seems like if you don't want to stay there and keep on dying for the Bush empire you are not a good American and do not support our troups. Well folks I support our troups enough I want them to come home and quit dying for Profit for the powers that be. To fight a war is one thing to be caretakers for the profit of the elite is quite another. I am truly ashamed to say I am a Republican. It is time to quit voting and supporting a party but look at the man, check his background and voting record, who has he aligned himself with, how many times has he changed his stance on a bill or vote? There is only one that has a solid 20 year record with no flip floping, never took any lobby money, never been bought by corporations and has stated many times his platform. NEVER CHANGES... To see the video of the actual supporters being turned away from voting at this straw poll watch this: www.youtube.com...
Stop worrying about being a Democrat or Republican or Libertarian.. Simply vote the man, vote American. Vote for our Constitution, Vote for our Freedom and Soverign Nation not a North American Union as is being planned by Fred Thompson and his fellow CFR members, who by the way most of the candidates belon g to except Dr. Paul.



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reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 09:19 PM by Areal51
reply to post by PistolPete


My argument is about the circumstances that seemed to surround the "disenfranchised voters". I'm not so sure they were disenfranchised. At first glance it seemed that way, but it certainly seems less so now that I've had a healthy discussion with some folks. I am, however, concerned about the treatment of the voters. Someone should have been available to explain to them the particulars of their situation. The impression seems to be that the event organizers made the decision to allow folks to remain confused. A simple five minute explanation could have been all that was needed rectify the situation, and avoid the resulting controversy. Clearly the would-be voters needed assistance, which one would think they would have received after paying $50.00 each.



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reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 09:38 PM by acmeartifacts
reply to post by Byrd

WHAT??????????????????????

Read it again slowly.
Delegates were bused in from San Antonio and denied access.
What in the world are you talking about


reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 09:38 PM by Mirthful Me
What kind of hot...

Originally posted by acmeartifacts
HOT OFF THE PRESS!!!

I just got this email through the Ron Paul Meetup group

From the Ron Paul granny warriors


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Texas Straw Poll
From: "Linda Hunnicutt "
Date: Sun, September 02, 2007 7:52 pm




Fresh off the grill, or straight out of the microwave?

I think we might be getting a bit of a cooked story here; specifically because Linda Hunnicutt, the founding "Granny Warrior" was painfully aware of who could vote in this straw poll, and that the delegates (real ones) were not going to support Ron Paul (or RuPaul for that matter).


One pervasive message we kept getting over and over is that RON PAUL can win the Straw Poll even with the odds set against him with only the delegates being able to vote. This is a bad thing really as new people have no say so and it is the older RINO's in the party that are able to cast a ballot. BUT... not many people seem to be going to the event as it is seen as just another money maker for the party with no real substance for the cost to the people going. One lady told me it just wasn't worth the money which would run their family about $800 by the time they paid the gas, hotel and food bills. So the idea now is to get as many supporters there and showing our desire for Ron for the Nomination etc. We have to make sure every one of the people who are allowed to vote know who we want them to vote for.

www.grannywarriors.com...


Emphasis mine.

I'd also like to take this moment that salute Linda, as human who is gracious enough to have the insight and fortitude to have a monkey travel with her is alright with me.

RV Monkeys, not just for seeing America anymore...

[edit on 2/9/2007 by Mirthful Me]


reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 01:08 AM by janasstar
reply to post by sp00n1


Just thinking out loud here in reference to defending Ron Paul, but recently, a thread was opened, "Calling all ATS'ers. Wouldn't it be a good idea to consolidate under that effort, or did that thread get de-railed too badly?
I don't mean to de-rail this one, either, I just meant somewhere to consolidate efforts and get what we want. If not there, then elsewhere, anybody???

This reference was back a few pages, so maybe, I'd better clarify myself. Post-ers were talking of trying to do something positive about getting word out about the incident, as well as maybe actuall doing something concrete about it. If I got that correctly. Of course that was pages ago, now.

[edit on 9/3/2007 by janasstar]


[edit on 9/3/2007 by janasstar]


reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 02:41 PM by Mirthful Me
reply to post by TXMACHINEGUNDLR



What right would that be? There's no issue of suffrage here, there's no government involvement at all... The straw poll was organized by a small Christian AM radio station, and the GOP Party of Texas... They have every right to create and officiate their event as they see fit. The truth of the matter is that due to their rules, they had an extremely poor turnout, and as an event, it was an abject failure, right on down to the candidate that actually won.

I would implore the membership to engage in a modicum of research and reading on a topic before engaging their keyboard, and ultimately the "Post Reply" button.
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