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Originally posted by Pocky
I wish somebody could show us a picture of what these things look like. I keep imagining an underground crystal lucid glass sphere . Really want to know what the heck they need an under water training facility for. That is quite odd.
The article, titled 'CALIFORNIA FLOATS ON OCEAN?', revealed the following:
"Some time ago, I heard a man on a TV interview-show briefly mention that parts of California and neighboring states are floating on the Pacific Ocean! He was a high ranking Naval officer on a top- secret nuclear submarine that has been (and is) exploring and mapping these enormous caverns and passage-ways underneath the West for over 10 years now.
"A friend of mine finally tracked the man down. He is now living quietly in retirement and asked that no details pointing to him be revealed as he does not want publicity and government attention. After writing this article, I destroyed my files on him. This is his story..."
Williams explains that not "all" of the areas in question are actually "resting" or "floating" on the ocean, however there are allegedly many subterranean cavities below the western U.S., and they are not limited to California, and many of them consist of very large water-filled aqua-systems. These have been explored via nuclear submarines to several hundred miles inland, particularly in the region of southern California and the southern Oregon - northern California area.
"He makes the following statements from his observations:
"1. The passageways are labyrinthine with widths from a few to thousands of feet (caverns), averaging roughly about a 100 feet.
"2. Much like dry caverns do, heights and depths vary a great deal and in some cases, two or more caverns or passageways pass over or under each other at different depths.
"3. Most of the entrances lie just off the Continental Shelf (ie. in the Continental Slope - Branton).
"4. Most of the entrances are too small for submarine investigation; and many that are large enough lie in waters that are too deep.
"5. Some of the caverns (in S. California) are topped with oil while some others are filled with gases believed to approximate our atmosphere (in very ancient times).
"6. The San Joaquin Valley is essentially a portion of the original cavernous area that collapsed eons ago due to it's sheer weight.
"7. What is being passed off as the 'San Andreas Fault' are large, unsupported chambers that are in the process of collapsing. When the BIG ONE finally hits, many scientists in the know believe that most of California will break off like a cold Hershey bar and slide into the ocean! (it is postulated by some that an ancient land-mass which some believe may have been connected to what is now California, broke off and sunk into the ocean during an ancient cataclysm - Branton)
"8. (We are deleting this section due to the possibility of undue stress and fear which may result from it's disclosure. Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. We will merely state that it involves a scenario similar to that which was portrayed in a James Bond movie, and which concerned underground caverns, silicon valley, nuclear weapons, and the San Andreas fault - Branton).
"9. A WELL-KNOWN U.S. nuclear submarine lost its way in these passages and disappeared forever. It was reported to have been lost IN OPEN SEA ELSEWHERE to keep the American people in total ignorance and to justify an enormous pay-off to an eccentric U.S. billionaire (who died in recent years) for providing the fictitious "recovery" effort.
"One incident which tends to confirm the fact that California is in fact floating on the ocean was a story which made the headlines in recent years. This incident involved an oil discovery beneath Long Beach, California. When oil companies began pumping oil out of the ground beneath Long Beach it was soon learned that the entire city BEGAN SINKING INTO THE OCEAN!
In the late 1930s, oil was discovered under Long Beach harbor. Its production helped Long Beach recover from the Depression and provided revenue to support expansion and modernization of the harbor as well as enriching individuals who owned land in the area. As a result when land near the oil field began to sink, those who were profiting from pumping the oil out from under the land resisted any suggestion that there could be a link between oil production and subsidence. They hired experts to defend their position. As the subsidence continued, those whose property was damaged by the sinking, but who were not benefiting from the oil production, hired experts to determine what was really causing the sinking.
While the controversy continued, the land kept sinking. It sunk like a big bowl and the bottom of the bowl was more than 25 feet below its previous elevation. Some warned that if the sinking continued, the ocean might inundate the city. The Navy Shipyard was near the bottom of the bowl and the Navy didn't own the mineral rights of the Shipyard so they were suffering damage but receiving no benefit so in 1958 the Navy sued all of the oil operators. Although the suit was never litigated or settled, it helped to convince many people that a proposed solution, pumping water into the fault blocks where the oil had been taken out, should be implemented. And that solution stopped the sinking.
The production of oil from under the harbor led geologists to explore the area under the tidelands and submerged lands off Long Beach and oil was discovered to be there as well. This discovery led to a struggle between the city, to whom the state had granted the tidelands in 1911, and the state and federal governments over control of the oil revenue. Eventually the state and city were forced to divide the money.
By JO1 Mary Popejoy
Friday, May 13, 2005
The Naval Undersea Warfare Museum at Keyport welcomed 13 World War II Mk 14 Torpedoes into their space May 4 after 11 years of paperwork, preparation and persistency.
The journey began in 1994 when Dusty Rhodes, Industrial Specialist (Ordnance and Electronics) and a former Master Chief Torpedoman of Naval Undersea Warfare Center (NUWC) Keyport, discovered the historical torpedoes at the Army Ammunition Depot in Hawthorne, Nev.
“We were climbing through magazines in the storage areas at Hawthorne, and Bob Bennett, one of the guys who was helping me out said that he had found some of the “big boy” torpedoes in crates,” said Rhodes. “I went over to where he was standing and noticed a Naval Ammunition Logistical Code (NALC) of 1502 stenciled on one crate. I recognized the number from my days in the Fleet as a Torpedoman’s Mate as being a Mk 14 Torpedo,” he added.
They soon discovered they had eleven of the famous torpedoes....
Northwest Navigator - Puget Sound Naval News
Gotta love those internal news letters
To be continued....
"So we arrived at the Fallon NAS, and the two guys at the gate with machine guns or assault rifles (I don't know the difference, honestly) greeted us. I leaned over from the passenger side to start my rehearsed presentation about how silly this may sound.... One of the soldiers was off to the side, smirking, and the other to whom I was speaking smiled slightly and asked for my documents and ID, and instructed us to pull up to the barricade. He soon returned with my paperwork and said that the rental car guy would come to retrieve us. I was relieved beyond belief that I wouldn't have to unpack my two-weeks worth of belongings! What seemed like an eternity passed before Mr. Hertz showed up at the gate to lead us on a three and a half mile journey through the naval base to the car rental trailer. Yes...a portable office! Before you can say #, I was in my car and making my way back through the naval base, wishing that I could have stopped to photograph this experience. But alas, unauthorized photography was expressly disallowed - and that was made VERY clear along the way. All I really wanted was a picture of the road signs inside the base that said, "YIELD TO LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT"."
"My friends had prepped me for some of the things I would see along the way...bunkers, Area 51, etc. About 3 miles or so outside of Hawthorne, the bunkers popped up. For thousands of acres, all I could see was bunkers in the landscape. Picture the movie, "Alien", with all of the egg pods as far as the eye could see... and this was how the bunkers appeared - though elongated with doors on the side. A sign along the highway read, "NUWC"...then spelled out, Naval Undersea Warfare Center...Wow. In the middle of the desert....go figure. That's what the bunkers were for."
By 1945, the population had reached 5,625 with the base encompassing some 147,000 acres having 178 buildings and 2,427 above and below ground bunkers for ammunition storage. By 1980, the Depot was converted to a "contractor-operated" facility with a total employment of around 500.
Originally posted by stikkinikki
In the study of streams and rivers etc there is something called the hyporrheic zone that spreads out way beyond the fast flowing waterway.
Huge Underground "Ocean" Found Beneath Asia
Richard A. Lovett
for National Geographic News
February 27, 2007
A map depicts large areas of wet underground rock (shown in red) as detected by seismic waves. Scientists studying these waves discovered a giant "ocean" of water under east Asia that contains about as much water as the Arctic Ocean. Map courtesy Eric Chou/WUSTL