Yeah, the Glomar Explorer. It was built by the Hughes Corporation for the CIA to recover the K-129. They claim they only got the forward torpedo compartment, or a small section of the bow, but at a meeting between the Soviets and US during the 1980s the ships' bell was returned. The significance of this is that the bell on this class of boats was located around the conning tower. I believe on this particular boat is was on the aft section of the tower.

Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train.
John also spoke of a vast underground train and tunnel system used by the military.
Do these tunnels connect to the NIDS Ranch in the Uinta Basin in NW Utah and to Dulce New Mexico?
The Ranch and Hawthorne can be connected by a direct line heading NNE from Hawthorne to the Ranch. Dulce forms a lower point of a triangle SSE from Uinta Basin and SE from Hawthorne. (Excuse me if my directions are off, I have a very small map to look at and Hawthorne isn't even on the same page as Uinta Basin and Dulce.
Is it possible that these three areas are part of the underground tunnel/train/waterway network?
I believe the Navy and possible Naval activity was mentioned in info about the unexplained phenom at the NIDS Ranch.
Certainly similar unexplained activities have occurred near Dulce and the Uinta Basin. (Also prob in the whole SW region) Have similar unexplained phenomena occurred near Hawthorne?

While I subscribe to underground Naval bases, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, for some reason I can't swallow a tunnel system. Don't know why not, it makes sense that is could be feasible.

But I do not think they have the atomic, melting boring machines yet,. Just because there is a patent for several versions does not mean that the machines was actually designed and built. Do you realize how many patents there are? And how many are nothing but paper tigers? Corporations are huge into paper tiger patents, even on things they have no intention of following up with a mechanical product. It's just good business.

But good detective work digging that stuff up, makes for some interesting reading and at least illustrates that if you can imagine it, someone probably already has a patent on it, lol.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
While I subscribe to underground Naval bases, as I mentioned earlier in this thread,

LOL that's funny... because so far I haven't been able to dig up much on that one



I would however be interested in your reasons for 'subscribing' to that particular theory

This is a small request to Mr Lear.

Please could you put a placemark on Google Earth to show where this submarine base is located. (Assuming it is not top secret and no rules are breached)

Thank you.

keep up the good work that you are doing John Lear

This story may be relevant.

I once attended a small presentation at an art school. a rep from a firm that made 'honeycomb' materials. They were at the time making equestrian equipment and padding/pillow for paraplegics with this stuff. The rep came to speak with the Industrial design students. Basically he was pushing the materials they manufactured.

He was bragging saying this material is great for pillows as it breaths well so paraplegics don;t suffer from as many sores from sitting all the time. the hexagon created natural strength, light weight, durable....etc etc. sell sell

What was most interesting is that he said his resume included the Navy. He claimed the navy used his materials to coat the outer walls of submarines as it made the sub appear to be a whale when pinged by sonar. sounded intriguing though if an enemy sub detected a whale the size of some of these nuclear subs they would be a little suspicious anyway.

John, you've spoken a great deal about minisubs. This honeycomb material tech seems to be more applicable to these.

As far as the company manufacturing this stuff, I can't remember the name. I remember clearly the rep droning on about equestrian saddle gear and paraplegic pillows. This may make him easier to track down.

This presentation took place in california in 2005


ps. I forgot to add...some of the more durable materials were honeycomb sandwiched between two solid layers. the empty cavities of the honeycomb could be filled with any gas you like.

[edit on 11/30/2007 by SholaHopper]

Originally posted by SholaHopper
What was most interesting is that he said his resume included the Navy.

PSSTTT Wanna buy some honeycomb material? I got their PO #

RS-3 Carbon Fiber Honeycomb Material. Prepared for:. Clarence Korendyke. Naval Research Laboratory. Code 7662K. 4555 Overlook Avenue. Washington D.C. 20375
Reference No.: NRL080502-6
Purchase Order: PO20020945

The United States of America as represented by the Secretary of the Navy .... 1 thermal barrier 10 which comprises flame retardant honeycomb material

Interior upholstery adhesively bonded to the honeycomb material completes the thermal barrier ... Corporate Author : DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY WASHINGTON DC

Army Technology - AS 565 Panther Multirole Light Helicopter
259 AS 565 Panthers have been ordered: 181 army and 78 naval versions. ... fibre reinforced plastic spar and are filled with a Nomex honeycomb material

H5.003 ASSESS EXTENT OF DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT HONEYCOMB MATERIALS. L. MAINTENANCE ADMINISTRATION

NASA also has some...
McDonnell's Gemini heatshield was made of a Fiberglas honeycomb material

...and did you know the Buran Russian Space Shuttle Hull did as well?



[edit on 1-12-2007 by zorgon]

Mr. Lear

I am currently in the process of planning a trip to numerous ghost towns in the Nevada region starting from Las Vegas up to Hawthorne and maybe to Walker Lake. It was primarly going to be a ghost-town expedition, but after reading about this I am curious. I think that I may make a slight detour to do a little investigating. Are there any places in particular that you might recommend?

It is becoming stranger and stranger and I am close to the point that I feel disgusted. Are there no normal trustworthy people in the top of the US government or army? One cover-up has not been fully explained or an other is showing on the surface. Do those people get horny if they can create a new secret or are they money or power crazy? Why has everything wonderful or out of this world need to be a secret for those people? Can you imagine that if there is a cure for cancer there are people who want it to keep a secret? Or keeping a new, cheap and clean power source a secret? These people responsible are sociopaths and because they are well educated, rich and in powerful places the people around them do not see this or do not dare to make a difference.

The 'Trieste' went down 10,000 feet, shot some pictures and stated that "its too deep, we can't get down to it." No one asked them the question as to why not since they had been down over 35,000 feet in the Marianas in February of 1960.

Seven months later, our president was assasinated. Is there any possibility that thee are connected? Is there any connection between the Trieste and our now complete mapping of the floor of the oceans of the world for submarine traffic?

While things uch as these appear to be quite independent of one another, they along with some other interesting incidents could lead one to believe that there are things that are being covered up.

I live in the area and the local rumor is that the dissappearance of Steve Fossett has something to with him flying into the no fly area and seeing something he shouldn't. The majority of Nevada is a no fly zone.

An intresting fact is that 97% of Mineral County is Government owned.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
While things uch as these appear to be quite independent of one another, they along with some other interesting incidents could lead one to believe that there are things that are being covered up.

Hmmm well I will take a moment and check your 'tip' It has been my experience that a lot of things are linked together and it is the assembling of the puzzle that will give us the answers 35,000 feet in the 60's huh? Interesting

There is a giant elevator that goes down to sea level. Thats funny. I always wondered why Canada's main navy base is in the middle of the prairies.

What about the Great Salt Lake in Utah? What is the possibility of a connection from the Pacific?