The STS 75 incident has one major flaw. Viewing the footage years ago, one has yet to encounter discussion regarding the lack of dimension. Sizes, distances, direction, does not explain why, in space, every object showing only a top view. Not one displaying even the slightest variation in angle. Therfore skeptism still exists here.
A Contact fan

Originally posted by PureET
This is actualy very old news.

This video has been available for quite a while now.

It is actualy the first video that convinced me that Extra Terrestial live is a FACT.

And as you stated... These aint no ice pieces floating around...!! And if you think these are meteorites, well you should have your eyes checked cause, these are intelligent objects, not space junk.

There is also an video with David Serada, i'm trying to find it but no luck so far... he analyzes the tape also, and with pin-point accuracy if you know what i mean.

This is REAL.

The Documentary is called "The Case for NASA UFOs" and comes in two parts. I don't know if it is on Youtube or not.. The introduction for it is done by Dan Akroyd who is an avid believer in the unknown, or at least "not fully known"

Also his name isnt Serada, it's Sereda
David Sereda

That two part documentary is very good, he uses strong science and interpolation to show his proof, and he also goes on to explain his correspondences with people at NASA.

[edit on 31-1-2009 by Davood]

Originally posted by mrmajestyk6309
I agree with...it looks organic...underwater looking type weird thingy...sure sure pulsating along just like those sea creatures do...only these creatures swim in space and are only noticed by us in the ultra violet sight ...invisable....

Hi there. I've read, in a few places that I won't quote, "ahem", that some ships are actually "light ships" and not made of any type of substance that we are familiar with, so these could be organic.

Interesting discussion here, for the most part - then there's the people who don't have time to watch a video but can post dozens of times. Good stuff

I also believe Mr Sereda is a showman selling flim-flam. His theories are flavoured with applications of 'quantum physics', so you'd suppose he was at least a graduate in the field. Apparently, he spent the first decade of his career planting trees when, on his own admission, he had lots of time to think about stuff like this.

Anyway, without getting into floating ice particles and controversial things, there's one feature of his 'quantum craft' which isn't arguable and really does need an explanation. It concerns the 'notch', that square shaped bit cut from the edge of his flying saucers. They all have one and he acknowledges this and actually draws the notch on his blackboard demonstration.

When we watch the STS-75 tether videos, we see lots of Sereda ships with notches. But there's an intriguing facet that David really ought to address. The notch can be top/left, top/right, bottom/left or bottom/right or they can be some position in between these. But they are always located according to the ship's location in the movie frame. That's irrefutable and clear enough for anyone to see.

The notches are always in the same position on ships located upper left. They're in a different place for ships seen upper right, or lower left or lower right. And all ships follow the rule. What's more, a notch will migrate from one position to another as a ship crosses the frame. You can watch the notch.

The reason for this phenomenon is optics and lens design. The notch is the result of internal construction of the zoom lens. And it's been demonstrated by experiment. A zoom lens of certain construction will create a notch on the edge of the light disc created from a defocussed point source (such as a bright star, Venus, etc).

It's all on YouTube for anybody interested enough to investigate.

So the notches have a simple optical explanation. The 'behind the tether' argument has a simple optical explantion. So what is there left of Mr Sereda's ships to believe in?

WG3

i think some of the critters do go behind the tether

i also don't believe ice particles pulsate like what is seen in the tether video

As I stated in the other thread...these are not camera lens anomalies causing notches to morph. If that was the case, then why do these objects have DIFFERENT notch patterns at DIFFERENT points in the frame and at DIFFERENT times in the frame on DIFFERENT objects???

The lens cannot magically change its impurities from one point in itself to another in the frame.

Why dont we see this notch morphing on the tether, especially when the scene is zoomed out and then zooms in???

Try again man.



Cheers!!!!

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Debating the STS 75 NASA video is a waste of time, because of other corroborating footage showing the exact same type of craft. Include with that the Dropa Stone, an ancient artifact dating back to biblical times, that's an exact replica of these craft. There's no argument with re-guard to this subject. It is what it is, except the total overwhelming evidence and lets move on.

Ahh, the dropa-stones.

Well, the hoomans back in that time prolly new we gonna have discs of glas that would sit on a tube that is attached to a device that take pictures. I bet they also could forsee that these lenses would have anomolies looking like a disc with holes and nudges in it.

So they made replicas of them just for fun.

They prolly used them as christmas tree decorations.

Serisouly though.

We now have 3 threads atleast about these "dust particles".
And all we do is to have a Monty Python argument session here.

It's a UFO!!
No it isn't!!
Yes it is!!
No it's a dust particle that is unfocused!
No it isn't!!!
Yes it is!!!!

DING!!

Thank you, NEXT!

Well, we will never get to a solution on the STS-75 and probably not on the others either.

We can only stay with our own beliefs.
I believe they are NOT an lens effect, some of them might be but not all.
Them being unfocused does not explain why they make a 180 turn and continue the same way they came.

But most interesting are the video where they fly into the picture and then remain stationary in a formation over Earth.
Later on in the mocie you can actually see them hanging in the atmosphere on the horizon.
Great clip imo.

Originally posted by easynow

yes they are hoping we all just move along but there are some people like me that won't !

i really cannot understand the reasoning behind NASA not letting this type of footage out for the public to see. there is no logic in that unless there is something to hide...simple as that.

if Obama wants to make the Goverment more transparent then a good place to start would be with NASA imo.

we are paying for all this and we are not allowed to see the real stuff.

sad

I completely agree. The thing with NASA, or some within NASA, and the government is that when you got a neat toy or knowledge, you want to keep that all for yourself and leave others out...being stingy basically.

I think Obama's transparent government could definately begin with NASA. Its time that all this cowering behind lame dame excuses and poof dirt dust and ice particles comes to an end.

If the ancients could handle these things in the skies and write about them and document them with paintings in caves and glyphs on stone walls, and in none of those does it say their society went nuts and broke down, then we today can handle the truth too.



Cheers!!!!