This Will Freak You Out: The SA In America, page 1

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Topic started on 31-8-2007 @ 05:03 AM by ullnevernoe

CHECK THIS OUT: After Hurricane Katrina, I went to the Gulf Coast to work with the largest disaster restoration company in the WORLD, Belfor, and one day I was driving to a multimillion dollar loss with my father, and a Police car pulled next to us that looked odd, so I watched it closely. When it pulled right next to our vehicle, I read the door sticker, which read "National Police" etc etc etc.....and his siren lights were a compilation of orange, red, blue, and yellow. Fortunate for me the "officer" was coming to our job site to make sure everything was going good, and I introduced myself; he told me that he could drive to California, Alaska, Hawaii, New York, and anywhere else in the United States, and patrol any one on any road, any highway, alley, street corner, and arrest someone under unlimited jurisdiction. So pretty much the SA from NAZI Germany has revisited America 60 yrs later in a discreet manner. The scarier part is that any report or conviction that that police officer would have to make would hold water in court without question......and the even scarier part is that most people think that it's a good thing that we have National Police.......

I need to some more research into it, but yeah that's where our law enforcement is at. Oh they could also shoot people as well, and administer traffic tickets, parking tickets etc etc etc; anything a regular police officer or state trooper could do he could do........SCARY HUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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reply posted on 31-8-2007 @ 06:18 AM by dgtempe

Let us face facts.

We are done for as a free country.

Nothing else need be said.

reply posted on 31-8-2007 @ 09:32 AM by Kr0n0s

As a Catastrophe Claims Adjuster I spent many weeks in NOLA, South W. Louisiana and South W. Texas after hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Although I seen many things I dont approve of, Blackwater Mercenaries, Federal Soldiers patrolling with loaded weapons, etc.. I never saw anything that remotely resembled a "National Police" force.
Not saying that you didnt see this, im just saying that I didnt.
I carry a cheap digital camera in my truck at all times just for the purpose of snapping a photo of something just like you described.

reply posted on 31-8-2007 @ 12:15 PM by 3_Libras

Im against all that and what not, but what that means is that you look at police as ruthless, heartless thugs. You have to remember that some of these people do have a conscience, and a heart. Not every one of them is looking for the easiest way to beat up and shoot people.

reply posted on 31-8-2007 @ 12:21 PM by billybob

Originally posted by 3_Libras
Im against all that and what not, but what that means is that you look at police as ruthless, heartless thugs. You have to remember that some of these people do have a conscience, and a heart. Not every one of them is looking for the easiest way to beat up and shoot people.

it is systems that are the 'enemy', not people. people 'just do their jobs'.
checks and balances of the political/legal system have been torn asunder, and spread to the wind. the way water erodes rock, fascists erode democracy.

reply posted on 31-8-2007 @ 12:26 PM by ChrisF231

The United States DOES NOT have a national police force and no uniformed federal agency has the world national included in their agency name with the exception of the National Institutes of Health Police and the Smithsonian National Zoological Institute Park Police ... and neither of those agencies are located anywhere near NOLA.

Nice try buddy. Please stop making up these pathetic made up stories.

reply posted on 31-8-2007 @ 12:27 PM by Dorian Soran

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The USA-PATRIOT Act renewal calls for the creation of a national uniformed police force:

"A permanent police force, to be known as the 'United States Secret Service Uniformed Division,'" empowered to "make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence" ... "or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony."

and....

The new police are assigned a variety of jurisdictions, including "an event designated under section 3056(e) of title 18 as a special event of national significance" (SENS).

"A special event of national significance" is neither defined nor does it require the presence of a "protected person" such as the president in order to trigger it. Thus, the administration, and perhaps the police themselves, can place the SENS designation on any event. Once a SENS designation is placed on an event, the new federal police are empowered to keep out and arrest people at their discretion.

Posted by Benj Hellie on January 24, 2006 at 11:27 PM

I did not know about this.

Sounds like this may have some standing.

Dorian

reply posted on 31-8-2007 @ 12:31 PM by Cuhail

Did he mention at all that he needed jurisdictional support to process the report? I mean like State, County or municipal facilities? Like, where does he process the arrests? Do they go through the courts that the arrest was made in? Or, do they go directly to a Federal Court? Why was he at the site you were working? Hmmmmm....

Camera, glove box. I got to get that going. Although, I always have one on my phone, it's a good idea anyway.

Cuhail

reply posted on 31-8-2007 @ 12:34 PM by ChrisF231

The USSS UD IS NOT a national police force ... they number less then 2,000 and hardly have enough officers to protect the White House, embassies and VPs residence.

reply posted on 31-8-2007 @ 12:40 PM by infiltr8u

HOAX i'm calling hoax on this one, the closest thing we have is as chrif231 mentioned the secret service. and as dorian pointed out the uniformed section of it wan't implemented until the second passing of the patriot act, waaay before katrina.

and if you were sooo freaked ut by this experience why did you wait all thse years to post it?

H...O...A...X..

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reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 06:29 AM by ullnevernoe

reply to post by Kr0n0s

I was gonna photograph it, but I didnt have my camera....as weird as it sounds, I will never forget that sign "National Police"

reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 06:31 AM by ullnevernoe

reply to post by infiltr8u

My bad, I wasnt into the whole online forum conspiracy thing till just recently....but ya dude I met with one of the policeman, so I'm not making it up.....I have better things to do than make up s*** on the internet.

reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 06:35 AM by ullnevernoe

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I didnt think to ask him where an arrested individual would be prosecuted, but I heard later that you get tried in local court and you get sent to a local prison or whatever the law requires depending on your felony. I need to do some more research into it, but let me tell you, I saw what I saw and heard what I heard, and alot of people are telling me im full of # for seeing it and im making it up, but no he has unlimited jurisdiction.

reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 06:37 AM by ullnevernoe

reply to post by Dorian Soran

Um, yes and another thing that the Executive Branch is granted under times of national emergency is something called 'pregorative power' which means that the president can bend the rules as he sees fit that fit the emergency.......so he probably would bend judiciary rules in the case of the disaster that occurred during Katrina.....I need to research it more tho.....thanks for that information tho.....

reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 06:57 AM by ChrisF231

Originally posted by infiltr8u
HOAX i'm calling hoax on this one, the closest thing we have is as chrif231 mentioned the secret service. and as dorian pointed out the uniformed section of it wan't implemented until the second passing of the patriot act, waaay before katrina.

and if you were sooo freaked ut by this experience why did you wait all thse years to post it?

H...O...A...X..

[edit on 31-8-2007 by infiltr8u]

What is today the US Secret Service Uniformed Division was created in 1922 as the White House Police Force; a separate agency from the US Secret Service, they were merged into the US Secret Service in the 1970s.

Up until the passing of the Patriot Act they couldent even made arrests outside of Washington DC (where all federal law enforcement officers share concurrent jurisdiction with the DC Metropolitan Police Department). Federal law enforcement, especially uniformed federal LEOs are very very restricted in their powers and authority ... especially outside of Washington DC and whatever their normal function is.

For example, look at the National Park Service Rangers ... only in 2002 did NYS give them the authority to make arrests and traffic stops outside of National Parks in NY (the individual states have this power) ... hell up until the 1980s the Rangers werent even allowed to openly carry their issued pistols/revolvers because the Park Service leadership was afraid the public would be scared!

reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 07:03 AM by ullnevernoe

reply to post by ChrisF231

Yes, except for the fact that in times of national crisis, the Executive branch can administer prerogative power.....I need to research it more, cus like I said, when I was talking to that guy, i got chills down my back. Due to the mayhem that the Gulf Coast was in after Katrina, noone would think twice about obeying Constitutional law when it came to law enforcement....another example is FEMA. FEMA is responsible for emergency assistance response on the FEDERAL LEVEL during a crisis, yet they were overriding STATE responsibilites, such as permit issuing, deed titling, etc etc etc.....so ya alot of # was going haywire down there at the time......It's like I tell everyone, unless you're there and you see the # that goes on, it's difficult to understand.

reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 07:16 AM by DaRAGE

I dont see whats wrong with a national police force. we have something in australia called the Australian Federal Police.

Each state has thier police force, but the AFP have headquarters in each state somewhere too i think. Like at airports and stuff... and the AFP police the Australian Capital Territory.

reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 07:20 AM by ullnevernoe

reply to post by DaRAGE

Oh, well you're Constitution is different than ours, that's probably why you don't understand; I know that sounds derogatory, but it's clearly stated in our constitution that every county is to be governed individually by the marshall police force in its county, and its county only. So a federal police force kind of messes that rule up, you dig?

reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 08:04 AM by niteboy82

Are you referring to the Federal Police that are always parked at the federal building on Tulane Avenue? I've seen those, and yes, the do exist. The cars are marked "federal police" though, not "national."

So no, I don't think this is a hoax.

reply posted on 3-9-2007 @ 01:28 PM by ullnevernoe

reply to post by niteboy82

ya thats it....thx for getting that straight, and i dunno if theyre on tulane avenue or not, but they are sure as hell alot of other places, so I'm sure they're the same officers.

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