African shaman performing levitation, page 1
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Topic started on 30-8-2007 @ 07:39 PM by hikix


You think this is real? or is it one of those Chris Angel stunts?!?


reply posted on 30-8-2007 @ 09:23 PM by Teratoma
I wanted to believe this was real and got ready to see something extraordinary. I'll talk you through my thought process as I watched it though:

1. Lookie there! He's rising right off the ground!
2. Wow! He's high enough so that you can see the flames behind him, and there doesn't seem to be anything holding him up back there.
3. Hmm I really wish they'd show it from another angle.
4. Ok, at least they're zooming in on him. Looks real enough. Too bad they're not circling him so we can see for sure that there's nothing holding him up.
5. Hey! There's another camera guy over there! Are they actually gonna show the footage from that camera?
6. COOL! They're showing it!
7. Hmm, why aren't they panning up and down the length of his body to show that he's actually floating un-aided?
8. They're just showing him from the shoulders up.
9. *CUT* now they're just showing his feet.
10. Ah! Now they're panning back up WHOOPS something knocked the camera a little to the left, but there's his head again.

This is probably very similar to the way you all watched it, whether you noticed these things consciously or not. The footage we were all waiting for, the "money shot" was cleverly left out. If someone took the time, money and other resources to get two cameras out there to get visual proof of this act, they failed miserably.

Agent Violet, I believe that indigenous 'holy men' are very much into pulling pranks. I can't really back that up but you've probably heard some of the same kind of stories and folklore that I have.



reply posted on 30-8-2007 @ 09:25 PM by worldwatcher
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good analysis, I like your thought process, I certainly didn't think of it that way.. but now that you mention it.. hmmm.


reply posted on 30-8-2007 @ 09:48 PM by Teratoma
Originally posted by worldwatcher
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post by Teratoma



good analysis, I like your thought process, I certainly didn't think of it that way.. but now that you mention it.. hmmm.



The thing is, you probably did, just sans the narrative. I think most people like the folks here at ATS were watching for that, even hoping for - a mere second or two of footage - which would show that there was no trickery involved. What we were shown was that there might not have been trickery involved. Not the same thing. I'm not one of those types that is going to demand proof of some kind, but wasn't that the whole idea of them getting this thing on video? Instead they show very little, and count on the viewer to be looking the other way. Sleight of hand, I suppose. Neat trick, just not a very neat video.

Thanks for the kudos, by the way! I really appreciate them.


reply posted on 1-9-2007 @ 12:05 PM by Arawn
Hard to tell really as you never see a clear back shot of the shaman doing his 'feat.' You see his face, frontal body and feet but not the back. Any slight glimpse you get is very very dark and cast in the shadows.

It looks real enough, but then what counts as looking real or not real? He's performing a supposed feat of physical alteration that none of us has seen happening before in front of our eyes so we don't know how levitation would look like. Yes he's wobbly...could he be wobbly because he's on loose supports? That could very well be the case. But then he could be wobbly because he's floating or is suspended on an invisible force, or layer or energy that is not very solid and stable like a concrete floor for example. As we have never seen levitation happen in front of our very eyes (well I certainly haven't,) it's very hard to say exactly what levitation should look like when witnessed.

The same goes for the fall at the end. Was that put in to add more weight to him falling off the energy source when it was really a trick? Or did he actually use up all the energy and concentration from his body? Again, very hard to say unless you know what you're talking about in the field of mind alternating subjects.

I feel that you can't really conclude anything from the video, for or against the possibility that the shaman might be performing levitation. The camera angles weren't always the best, it was at night time so his back and other areas were cast in shadows and unfortunately we know very little of the location, background of the supposed shaman, and the camera men involved. It could be a trick, or it could very well be real.

All in all though, it is very interesting.

[edit on 1-9-2007 by Arawn]



reply posted on 1-9-2007 @ 01:12 PM by infiltr8u
reply to post by agent violet




first off, we're taking the narrator's word that this guy is a "shaman" he could be the last guy to try out for DJ on good times for all we know. also
teratona makes a good point that they never showed this fella from behind and why wasn't it filmed during the day instead of at night. at least criss angel does his stunt during daylight hours as well as at night.
my 2.5 cents
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