Less Than Half of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory, page 1
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Topic started on 30-8-2007 @ 10:43 AM by edsinger
cited a July 2007 review of 539 abstracts in peer-reviewed scientific journals from 2004 through 2007 that found that climate science continues to shift toward the views of global warming skeptics.

SURVEY: LESS THAN HALF OF ALL PUBLISHED SCIENTISTS ENDORSE GLOBAL WARMING THEORY; COMPREHENSIVE SURVEY OF PUBLISHED CLIMATE RESEARCH REVEALS CHANGING VIEWPOINTS



LINK


Well isn't this interesting? Plus notice the site, the US Senate. I guess the consensus is NOT decided and just maybe the Global Warming bandwagon just got a flat...


Of 528 total papers on climate change, only 38 (7%) gave an explicit endorsement of the consensus. If one considers "implicit" endorsement (accepting the consensus without explicit statement), the figure rises to 45%. However, while only 32 papers (6%) reject the consensus outright, the largest category (48%) are neutral papers, refusing to either accept or reject the hypothesis. This is no "consensus."


Nope, doesn't seem like one to me, but sure enough I bet BIG OIL is funding this somewhere........isn't it?


reply posted on 30-8-2007 @ 02:26 PM by Byrd
Let's see... it says:

Of 528 total papers on climate change, only 38 (7%) gave an explicit endorsement of the consensus. If one considers "implicit" endorsement (accepting the consensus without explicit statement), the figure rises to 45%. However, while only 32 papers (6%) reject the consensus outright, the largest category (48%) are neutral papers, refusing to either accept or reject the hypothesis. This is no "consensus."


Okay... so how do 6% of the scientists writing papers rejecting global warming translate to "majority of scientists""? I can count on my fingers, ad 94% is lots bigger than 6%.

Furthermore, those numbers don't actually add up and that he changes the definition so he can tweak his title.

He is forced to cover his fanny when he admits that 45% of the scientists give an "implied endorsement", leaving 48% are "neutral" and 6% are against. That totals up to 99%, not 100%.

And I'd like to know a bit about those who accepted global warming and those who rejected it. WOS is here but it's expensive to access:
scientific.thomson.com...

So what does he count as "neutral"? I can access many of these same papers on scholar.google.com and I'm curious about how he labels some of these:
scholar.google.com... &as_ylo=1999&as_yhi=2007&as_allsubj=all&hl=en&lr=

How does he classify articles such as this one: wbro.oxfordjournals.org...

Is that "neutral" or is it "pro"?

Even when I google for "global warming" and "no evidence" the articles are overwhelmingly in support of the idea of global warming. Look for yourself;
scholar.google.com...

I can do the same search in other databases (but you couldn't get to them to check them). It's pretty clear the writer had an agenda. Six percent isn't even a significant minority, and I'd like to see some of those papers and check out the authors (are they working for oil companies, for instance.

And finally, without asking the scientists, the fact that they don't write about global warming being caused by humans directly in a paper is simply a bogus bit of research. I believe humans are exacerbating it and that it's real... but I write about anthropology and the Internet, so you don't find my opinions in my papers.

This looks like a desperate attempt of a global warming denier and not good research. Did he contact the scientists to confirm their opinion? No. Is he lumping the "didn't say anything" bunch in with the "denies it happens" group? Yes.

Bad stats, bad research.

He needs to go back to school and take some courses in research design... AFTER he takes a course in stats.


reply posted on 30-8-2007 @ 05:55 PM by Byrd
Oh, it's worse than that, Melatonin. I had a look at part of the database tonight.

So...when he reviews the papers and counts a mention in the abstract of either "global warming is dangerous" or "no mention"... that counts as one point in his database.

And, as we both know, papers are usually written by more than one scientist. So a paper like this one (cited well over 50 times in recent papers) :
www.springerlink.com... counts as one point in spite of the fact that there are actually 5 scientists listed.

And this is a telling point. In order for this Disinfo Dodo to get the numbers to where he can deny global warming, he has to pretend that only one scientist writes a paper and that scientists write one (and only one) paper. A look at who's writing the "global warming isn't real" papers is rather revealing. We see a lot of the Same Suspects showing up time and again.

Disinfo Dodos tend to assume that nobody out there is more educated or smarter than they are and that the rest of us don't know good science when we see it. Global warming deniers should be ashamed of themselves if they fall into the trap of believing this pompous popinjay's clackings to be real science.

He's a fraud, pure and simple, and has to resort to lying about the data.


reply posted on 30-8-2007 @ 07:12 PM by melatonin
reply to post by Byrd




I did the same. I've replicated what Oreskes did, the exact search terms for articles between 2004-2007 (i.e. TS="global climate change"; DocType=Article; Language=All languages; Database(s)=SCI-EXPANDED; Timespan=2004-2007)

I have 576 abstracts. If I get the time, I'll work through them. But I'm really really busy on my own research at the moment. Plus, the new semester kicks off in a month, heh.

So, I wouldn't be surprised that someone else checks his findings first. The chances are, half the stuff he says is opposing AGW isn't. The neutral stuff is neither here nor there. It's as if some think every article on climate has to have 'this data supports the consensus'.

Likewise, I suppose all articles on evolution should also have 'this article supports the theory of evolution by natural selection' in the abstract, heh.


[edit on 30-8-2007 by melatonin]

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