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Apache attack on Iraqi's video

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posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:17 PM
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the AH-64D had followed the truck for almost half an hour before the truck stopped and the footage you saw takes over there


What proof do you have of this?

Deep




posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:32 PM
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Why in the world would God want to bless the United States Army?

The US military and their missions invading and occupying foreign countries and engaging in high altitude bombing and urban counter-insurgency operations that kill many many civilians has brought FAR more fear than hope, delivered FAR more violence than justice, and has created an almost unheard of level of anti-American sentiment in the Islamic world and beyond that has actually made America less secure.

So you actually have nothing to be proud of. Nor do the actual soldiers there, unfortunately (they're just puppets and bodybag fillers to the Bush Administration, who won't even attend or SHOW servicemen's remains being returned to US soil).

Nor does God, actually. Though Shalt Not Kill has no asterisk.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:33 PM
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Proof? I'm in the friggin army over here working along side 4th ID. What do you want me to do email an AAR? (after action review) 22 attacks a day. That don't mean anything to you? Do you know what the SOP(standard operating procedure) for when a convoy gets attacked is? Keep driving don't return fire unless you can positivly identify attacker. Which is never cause they attack with IEDs. I've watched people die and we never got a chance to shoot back. How is that differen't from the video?



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:36 PM
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Well. Sorry for you.

I do hope that your out of that country for, those poor Iraqies sake.

Being thier, what is the word in the street on Americas so called war?

Has it brought them any peace? Do tell.

Deep



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:37 PM
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Jakomo, do I gotta say Armchair general agian?



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Jakomo

This was NOT a battlefield situation.

Notice how the camera stays so still? Because the Apache is just hovering, watching, before it opens up with 30mm cannons on three "unknown" targets.

The point is that they DIDN'T know if they were enemies. Listen to the chatter from the pilot and gunner. They're not excited, they're not afraid, it's all pretty low-key. All they know is they're blowing away Iraqis.

And it's pure murder. Watch and listen to the video, it's chilling how emotionless these murderous US soldiers are.

Have I ever been in combat? Yes.

That video isn't combat. It's a turkeyshoot. Did the Apache take any incoming fire at all? Was this "tube" even pointed at them? What kind of a military operation consists of three guys in a wide open field with POSSIBLY one rpg launcher?

If this was the USA, and the helicopter opened fire on three Americans in a field because they seemed to possibly have an rpg, believe that Army heads would roll.

But I guess that just shows the institutional racism that goes on.

These, after all, were only Iraqis, right? They're not as important as US soldiers, who are God's Chosen Killers. Our Good Little Boys, who are only following orders.

Pathetic.

And before someone slams me for not showing proper respect for US soldiers in Iraq, I'm not American so I honestly don't care too much, nor do I have to. You join the Army, you hope you can help your country and you hope you won't get killed. Dem's the rules. I feel more sympathy for your average Iraqi citizen than I do for your average US soldier, because this was forced on them, they didn't volunteer to be occupied and shot and killed.



jako




U canadians disgust me...... Why don't u be quiet and keep sending money to a queen abroad you fools.
You are just a Bunch of pussiess. I can get a handfull of friends with hockey sticks to take over you crappy country! I live in Michigan and are very familiar with your kind.

I have quite a few Iraqi friends that have family over there in Iraq and they say times are tough now....but will get better and be better without saddam. I wonder why 30 million people were cheering in the streets when Saddam was gone???

YOU CANADIANS ARE PUSSIESS THAT LET SADDAM MURDER OVER 20 MILLION OF HIS OWN PEOPLE. WHY DIDN"T YOU DO SOMETHING????? WHY DIDN'T YOU TRY TO HELP??? MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE SAVED MY FRIENDS UNCLE THAT WAS KILLED FOR CRACKING A JOKE ABOUT SADDAM???

MY FRIENDS UNCLE WOULD STILL BE HERE IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU!!

IF YOUR CRAPPY COUNTRY DOESN'T HAVE THE BALLSS TO DO ANYTHING AT ANY TIME (NOT JUST IN IRAQ) YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRITISIZE WHEN YOU ONLY SOULUTION TO ANY PROBLEM IS TO SIT BACK AND LET THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD CONTINUE TO BE ETHNICALLY CLEANSED AND MURDERED.

LETS SEE......I BET YOUR GONNA START ABOUT HOW U ALL HAVE A NATIONAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AND HOW UR BETTER THAN US. MY QUESTION IS THEN HOW MANY PEOPLE DIE WAITING IN LINE FOR ASSISTANCE IN YOUR FLOODED HEALTH SYSTEM????

KEEP SENDING MONEY TO A QUEEN ABROAD U PUSSIES!!!



WMD's are stupid people like you! We need to liberate the world from stupid people like you!!

SORRY FOR THE FLAMING....COULDN'T HELP IT.

SORRI FORE DAH SPELLINGE



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:41 PM
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Zero Deep,
To be honest with you; no there is no peace here. We got mortered last night and shots have already been fired tonight. Since saddam was caught the attacks have really stepped up. Another thing the media doesn't say anything about. Ya'll have to understand that alot of us don't agree with bush, but we had no choice in coming out here. And we don't fight for him. We fight for each other. Cause it's us thats getting killed not him. So the american word over here is not good, but we are doing our best.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:48 PM
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Baghdad is very messed up right now but it is getting better for the people little by little.

May God Bless our troops and America!

I wish our troops and you, MEDIC, a safe return.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:50 PM
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Thank you reason. We pull out in April. Check your u2u.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by medic
Why the hell do we keep having to defend our selves from you people at home when were getting attacked by iraqis daily. Jeeze.

Why? Because you shouldn't even be there. That's why.
You fail to see the irony of being attacked while invading another country?

If you don't agree with attacking Iraq, then I'm sorry you got yourself into that position. That's one reason I'd never join the services. You may have sold your life to the idiots, unfortunately. I guess they don't make that very clear when you join?

[Edited on 1-23-2004 by Satyr]



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:51 PM
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These Iraqies were killed because they were followed for 30 minutes prior to being killed by the 30mm chain gun
. From a mile away these pilots were watching this unfold. Do not believe for one second that they (the pilots) will just arbitrairly open up with a 30mm chain gun on innocent people on purpose. These guys (the smugglers) deserved everybit of what they got they were smuggling guns and doing bad evil things that directly threatned the U.S soliders in Iraq. That right there is enough to get your freaking head blown off. Don't do the crime if you can't pay the time. These guys should have not been involved in smuggling guns if they didnt want to take the risk, these smugglers are not as dumb as you might think. They know what the risks are. They took the risk and payed the ultimate price. One day they will understand that.

[Edited on 23-1-2004 by KillerT]



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:58 PM
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If they thought that taking the weapons out of a truck, where they were hidden from view before, and throwing them in the field is smart, then yes, they are dumb.
You say they're not dumb, then you call them stupid? Hmmmmm....


[Edited on 1-23-2004 by Satyr]



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 12:59 PM
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Medic,

I dont think anyone agrees with Bush.

And canadians pussies? Please, Now would canadians associate with a war caused under such false pretenses?

I doubt that, It was smart not to help. 30 million Iraqies cheering in the streets after saddams topple?

Right...Keep watching your American Bias news stations.

Deep



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 01:00 PM
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Oh I see Satry, your in charge of the US now. Why didn't i know before? Oh, yeah......cause your at home behind your computer making opinions about a war which, I say agian, obviously know nothing about. The "irony" of being attacked? Look up the definition of irony and tell me what you find. And for the last friggin time: WE (the soldiers) HAVE NO CHOICE WHERE WE GO!!!! we don't take a vote. There is no democracy in the military smart guy. You people(you in particular, Satry) need to THINK before you post. By the way Jakomo i'm still waiting to find out where you saw combat.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 01:02 PM
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I didn't say anything about canadians, before everyone pig piles me for it.



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 01:04 PM
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I'm glad they shot them. What are they gonna do? fly down and arrest them?



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Medic,

I dont think anyone agrees with Bush.

And canadians pussies? Please, Now would canadians associate with a war caused under such false pretenses?

I doubt that, It was smart not to help. 30 million Iraqies cheering in the streets after saddams topple?

Right...Keep watching your American Bias news stations.

Deep


Listen Monkey.......U must read what I write.

I will let u know that Dearborn, MICHIGAN is the largest city of Arabic Americans in th United states of America.

I go to Wayne State University and am part of discussion groups. Dearborn is about 35 minutes drive from my school and hence my large base of muslim/ Arabic American Friends from the Middle East.

These friends of mine have alot of family out in Iraq and especially baghdad.

You label me with knowledge aquired from American Bias television. That is not the case.

I would like to know of any sourses you have from Iraq on the situation there besides your "CANADIAN BIASED TELEVISION".


sorri fore Spellinge



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 01:11 PM
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My canadian remark was not pointed towards you medic.

Deep



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by medic
Oh I see Satry, your in charge of the US now. Why didn't i know before? Oh, yeah......cause your at home behind your computer making opinions about a war which, I say again, obviously know nothing about. The "irony" of being attacked? Look up the definition of irony and tell me what you find. And for the last friggin time: WE (the soldiers) HAVE NO CHOICE WHERE WE GO!!!! we don't take a vote. There is no democracy in the military smart guy. You people(you in particular, Satry) need to THINK before you post. By the way Jakomo i'm still waiting to find out where you saw combat.

I know what irony means. Maybe you don't?
Hey, you're the one who thought it was a good idea to join, not me. I don't support these sick #s running our country, and I sure as hell am not going to lend them my life....especially for a BS cause.
Maybe you didn't realize what the true nature of the military is? Are you regretting your decision, or are you still being all you can be? Looks to me like you got yourself into one bad situation. Does that justify it, just because you're there? I know a few others who are there, and don't think so.

[Edited on 1-23-2004 by Satyr]



posted on Jan, 23 2004 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Satyr

Originally posted by medic
Oh I see Satry, your in charge of the US now. Why didn't i know before? Oh, yeah......cause your at home behind your computer making opinions about a war which, I say again, obviously know nothing about. The "irony" of being attacked? Look up the definition of irony and tell me what you find. And for the last friggin time: WE (the soldiers) HAVE NO CHOICE WHERE WE GO!!!! we don't take a vote. There is no democracy in the military smart guy. You people(you in particular, Satry) need to THINK before you post. By the way Jakomo i'm still waiting to find out where you saw combat.

I know what irony means. Maybe you don't?
Hey, you're the one who thought it was a good idea to join, not me. I don't support these sick #s running our country, and I sure as hell am not going to lend them my life....especially for a BS cause.
Maybe you didn't realize what the true nature of the military is? Are you regretting your decision, or are you still being all you can be? Looks to me like you got yourself into one bad situation. Does that justify it, just because you're there?

[Edited on 1-23-2004 by Satyr]



Easy for you to critisize medic from your comfy home....enjoying a piece of apple pie, watching porn all day.

He had some balls to join the military.

last time I checked in the Military soilders can't vote on what they want to do so leave the man alone and stop dumping on him.

You are very heartless and a coward for putting him down when he fights for you benifit even if you think the cause is good or bad.

Are you not enjoying the fruits of our Militarys service.



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