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posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 11:35 PM
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Well, thank you for helping me pass another night shift away.I do feel that we sort of lost the thread a bit(sorry no pun intended).The info on G forces was very welcome but i would like to know more about the bases on the moon! I have not read or heared anything at all about them. Who is it that mans these bases and who is it that keeps them going with supplies.That must be a logistical nightmare.How do you hide all those rockets taking off?Just one other thing, i dont care if the pig is anoyed ,HE WILL SING!




posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 12:58 AM
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Good thread. The one thing that bugs me though was how long it actually took someone to answer the original g-force question correctly.

I was sitting here reading each page wondering when someone was going to say "in order for us to know the speed they were traveling at to hit 9 g's we'd have to know the amount of time that they traveled". Seriously people. Some of you were soo upset that he couldn't understand g's correctly that you completely ignored what he was really asking and just kept attacking him. That's pretty pathetic IMHO. When I first read his question I was ready to hit reply to say "You would have to know the exact amount of time traveled before being able to answer that" as soon as I read it. It took what, 5 pages - of immature, back and forth ranting - for someone to finally answer that correctly? There's no reason that should have happened.

I agree with what someone else mentioned about how it seems the people who wanted to keep arguing back and forth were doing it to purposely keep the thread off-topic. I'm not saying there's a bunch of dis-info agents in this thread trying to hide the truth. What I'm saying is immature arguing like that gives the impression that something else is going on. The more paranoid members of this site will see that and think it's dis-info people doing thier thing. Your regular open minded member who is most likely new to this will see it and think it's just people arguing over something. It wasn't needed. If you got a beef with someone and want to keep arguing over something, then take it you PM with that person and keep it out of the thread.


Originally posted by infamouskiller
I wonder when someone will ask why is the USA goverment spending tax money on a swedish aircraft.
Or further more why they are engineering systems for them???


I don't think the USA - or any other country in the world for that matter - has to be worried about a Swedish attack anytime soon
Nothing against the Swedish people of ATS


[edit on 30-8-2007 by nightmare_david]



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 01:52 AM
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Im not saying we need to be worried but clearly there in bed together....


was my point.



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 02:13 AM
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Along with those interesting declassified documents, there's also a .pdf with a summary report of some of the same goals mentioned in the first post's link. Its a real executive summary, over 450 pages of some of the most craziest things you can't even find in a sci-fi novel.



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 02:30 AM
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Improving human health and physical capabilities. Six priority areas have
been identified: nano-bio processors for research and development of
treatments, including those resulting from bioinformatics, genomics and
proteomics; nanotechnology-based implants and regenerative biosystems as
replacements for human organs or for monitoring of physiological well-being;
nanoscale machines and comparable unobtrusive tools for medical
intervention; multi-modality platforms for increasing sensorial capabilities,
particularly for visual and hearing impaired people; brain-to-brain and brainto-
machine interfaces; and virtual environments for training, design, and
forms of work unlimited by distance or the physical scale on which it is
performed.


Very scary # I have some info on brain matter hooked up to a pc was communicating with it.

google Brain matter Flight Simulator sometime.

remember what we see on the net is in fact 30 years behind current tech.


things are clearly more advanced then what they show us on Discovery channel and military.

Bio mechanic organs?????

Brain to machine interface Brain to Brain telepathic abilities.

Still think the Gov hides UFO tech damn right they are...................

The reality is this is the next generation of fighting soldiers.

Super Bionic Soldiers With Brain to Brain transmitters and Bio mechanic Organs.

This is truly Scary stuff.

I love there project name Army After Next AAN

What does this Project name imply to you?

Dont be surprised if you dont hear this achranim 10 yrs down the road on discovery channel. Discussing it as if it is new.

[edit on 30-8-2007 by infamouskiller]



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 05:10 AM
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If you believe any of the MK-ULTRA mind control stuff, they've been creating "super soldiers" for years. Can't remember what site I found it on but it was an article called "The Real Superman" and it was about MK-ULTRA and a guy they had experimented with who got away from it all.

He said these "super men" could do pretty much anything and heal themselves by going into "their place". Meaning they could go into a trance-like state in their minds where they get into a pool filled with this liquid that heals and gives you strentgh. You could picture your legs being made of rubber in your mind and in reality you could jump off the roof of buildings and land on the ground and be perfectly fine.

It had about some crazy stuff that had me intrigued for hours
A little out there, but I always think about it.

BTW infamouskiller...I got what you were saying about the Swedish and the USA, but I couldn't pass up making a little joke.

[edit on 30-8-2007 by nightmare_david]



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 07:19 AM
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very exciting find but at the same time this is very hard to believe.. i dont know what to think.. if it is fake, i don't know how it could be since this site is military.. and if it is real.. well.. i just don't know how it could be.........



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by helium3
Why have we spent 5 pages attacking what the OP does or does not know about G-force's ?. Its almost like members are trying divert our attention away from the infomation at hand ?.


Because he asked how fast 9 G's were. Then when we told him it wasn't a speed, he acted like we were lying to him. For 5 pages.



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 07:37 AM
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Rummaging around in old project files can be a lot of fun.

The terminology and acronym usage can be a little thick, and sometimes it helps to know where the overall project was going, or what the goals were of that group. Without context some of it seems a lot more eerie than it really is.



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by infamouskiller

9g's forgive me if my math is wrong isnt 1 g 650 some odd mph so 5400 mph wth kinda of convential rocket can do this



Originally posted by infamouskiller

Well mr smarty pants please tell me how fast 9 g's are and is there aircraft capable of flying this fast at least what they released to the public.

Whats the top speed of a stealth fighter how many g's are in mach 1

So what relative mach is 9g's?


Good God man, you're really freaked out on the 'g' syndrome!

Positive / negative 'g' force is the effect of centrifugal / centripetal forces acting on an object which is not dependent on speed per se. It is the inertial force exerted upon an object when it changes direction. One 'g' is equal to the force of gravity. Inertia causes a moving object to try and keep the same speed and direction of travel. Any change in direction creates some amount of 'g' Force. There are six directions of 'g' Force: left/right, front/back and up/down.

Mach number is the ratio of the speed of an aircraft to the speed of sound at SEA LEVEL, at a temperature of 21 °C (70 °F) and under normal atmospheric conditions, which is 760 miles per hour.

Therefore Mach 1 is 760 mph, Mach 2 is 760x2=1520 mph, 380 mph is .5 Mach and so on.

Hitting a wall at just 100 mph can result in a 50 g impact! For sustained > 10g turns, whatever the speed, in a fighter jet you require to wear your g-suit or you're pulp! Shorter the radii of turns, higher the g due to the greater centrifugal force.

Hope that clarifies the relationship between 'g' and Mach number.

Cheers!



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 02:27 PM
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First of all, I'm new to this site so.. Hi.

Second, after reading most of the articles posted on that military site and then reading the comments some members have posted about them, I can't help but wonder if certain terms have been misunderstood.

For example, an "Extraterrestrial Base" is not a base run by E.T. The Extraterrestrial. It's a base run by people on a place other than earth. And in the articles mentioned in this thread, it only refers to technologies that would be needed to develop a theoretical one, not an actual existing base.

As another example, The "Air Force Space Battle Lab" has the mission of utilizing space-based systems to help the military do it's job. It's not even located in outer space, it's located in Colorado. More can be read about it here, on this very not-conspiracy-ish-at-all web site: www.schriever.af.mil...

Third, I've been searching the site for this PDF about an explosion on the moon, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Could you please post a link directly to it?

And to those who are worried about that web site tracking your IP number, don't be - it's commonplace! Nearly all web sites track your IP for statistical purposes, as well as security. If you practice common-sense internet security (such as using a firewall, virus scanners, disabling cookies on unknown web sites, and setting your web browser's security to the highest settings) then you have nothing to worry about, as they would have nothing to track.

[edit on 30-8-2007 by mattifikation]



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by infamouskiller
aircraft JAS 39 GRIPEN C and D.

Do you know what these aircraft are have you ever heard of such a aircraft series I have not.

And to exert one g of force is 650 mph if im not mistaken I already answered myself I just was asking if my calculations were wrong or not. not to get some [snip] goverment troll to start a flame war with me. [snip]

Mod Edit: Profanity/Circumvention Of Censors – Please Review This Link.


[edit on 29-8-2007 by elevatedone]


When you are talking about fighters, Gs have NOTHING to do with straight line acceleration. When you make a turn the pilot is pressed down into his seat. The tighter the turn the higher the force. This is why they wear G suits. When they're in the turn the force of gravity is pressing down on them, forcing the blood to pool in their legs. That's why they black out. A G suit simply inflates a cuff of air around their legs forcing the blood back into their brain. A pilot without a G suit can handle up to 6Gs, a pilot with a G suit can withstand around 9-10 for very short periods of time. To answer your question there is NO speed that equals 9Gs, because we're talking about something completely different than acceleration.



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 03:59 PM
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your post about the super men experiments reminded me of the movie universal soldier, maybe that is where they got the idea for the movie?



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by mikesingh
Mach number is the ratio of the speed of an aircraft to the speed of sound at SEA LEVEL, at a temperature of 21 °C (70 °F) and under normal atmospheric conditions, which is 760 miles per hour.


Mach number isn't normalized. It's the ratio of the speed of an object to the speed of sound in the surrounding medium, not to STP. It varies with altitude, temp and gas composition.



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 04:17 PM
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I think we experience some small level of "G" force when accelerating
onto the expressway don't we? Also when the space shuttle blasts off,
the narrator describes the "G" forces that the crew endures until
reaching a certain altitude. I suppose anything at movement on Earth
experiences "G" forces...no?



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 04:21 PM
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You do experience some G force when you accelerate. However, when you talk about G Suits, and fighters, you aren't talking about acceleration, you're talking about turns. The most you'll feel during an acceleration is in the space shuttle, and that's only 3-4Gs. You'll only experience 9Gs in a high performance fighter, making an incredibly tight turn.



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 04:30 PM
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At the Chicago Air show a couple weeks ago, a TV reporter was riding
in the backseat of a fighter plane giving his report. The next thing you
know, he quit talking. The onboard camera showed that he had passed
out. I guess someone forgot to give the poor guy the "G Suit". Or,
maybe he was just out of shape? All the plane did was go upside
down like a rollercoaster ride does. Boy was he embarassed during
the live news that night.

Edit2Add: So what about the BASES ON THE MOON? This thread caught
my attention due to that title. Can't find any posts describing these
bases. hmmm...


[edit on 30-8-2007 by carewemust]



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 04:33 PM
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It's not just the G suit that helps keep pilots conscious. They're trained to do certain things when they're pulling Gs that helps to keep the blood up in their brain. You can teach reporters and people riding how to do those things, but until you've had to do them repeatedly it's not second nature like it is for a pilot. Pilots also have to do centrifuge training that teaches them to withstand Gs and builds up their tolerance to them. All those things combined are what let them withstand high G turns.



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 04:36 PM
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If flying saucers are real and "manned", the entities inside must wear
something really special. The acceleration and movements shown on
some the videos are incredible.



posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 04:40 PM
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Or they use an inertial dampening field, ala Star Trek.





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