Declassified Technology notes Moon Bases UFO technology

Originally posted by nightmare_david
The OP was clearly being attacked at the start of this thread. If you can't see that, then you're blind. (bla bla bla)

You're quite incorrect.

The OP asked how fast 9 g's were, got an answer he didn't like, and started ranting about it. Multiple posters tried to explain, he still didn't care for it, and that's how it went for 5 pages.

Your posts in this thread, including that one, have also been unanimously off-topic, failing to address either the main topic or any of the questions raised. No doubt you'll want to apply your own criteria for posting to yourself in future, so thanks for playing!

[edit on 31-8-2007 by Tom Bedlam]

Look @ This, LUNAR OXYGEN

This 1 looks pretty cool!

Originally posted by infamouskiller

Pluto remains the last outer planet as yet unsurveyed by any passing spacecraft. The spacecraft, Pluto Kuiper Express, is part of an approach by NASA to build, smaller, better, cheaper satellites for future space exploration. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory is designing a mission that will conduct reconnaissance of the Pluto/Charon system, determining their composition, atmosphere, and geological characteristics. If successful, the spacecraft will be sent to observe objects in the Kuiper Belt, laying just beyond the boundary of the solar system. To reach Pluto in a reasonable time frame at the lowest cost, several trajectory options must be carefully considered. This thesis presents a comprehensive analysis of a trajectory consisting of a Jupiter Gravity Assist flyby to Pluto. JPL specified two nominal launch dates of November 2003 and December 2004. The daily C3 requirements for these dates were determined by using the JPL programs MIDAS and CATO. This facilitated the creation of nominal launch periods for these two dates. By comparing the launch energy required by the trajectory on each day of the period to the performance capabilities of several medium lift launch vehicles, launch strategies for each day were compiled. These results allow JPL to make the final decision of the most feasible arrangement for launch, and build an alternate launch plan should the primary become unavailable.

When did we send Probes to pluto? I don't remember this being talked about in 2003-04

Originally posted by infamouskiller

Pluto remains the last outer planet as yet unsurveyed by any passing spacecraft. The spacecraft, Pluto Kuiper Express, is part of an approach by NASA to build, smaller, better, cheaper satellites for future space exploration.

When did we send Probes to pluto? I don't remember this being talked about in 2003-04

The reason you don't remember this is because the Pluto Kuiper Express was cancelled in 2000 for budgetary reasons. There was no launch in 2003-04 of a Pluto probe.

On 19 Jan 2006 the New Horizons probe was launched and is expected to fly by Pluto (within 10,000 km) by 14 Jul 2015.

Originally posted by infamouskiller
This report documents the proceedings of a workshop on issues involved in extraterrestrial planet surface activities involving mining and construction. In this second workshop dedicated to the subject, participants formed three discussion groups: (1) Construction and Mining Concepts and Equipment Designs, (2) Design Standards and Codes, and (3) Operations and Performance. Mining and construction tasks were categorized into 11 primary functions. Several equipment types and designs were reviewed for specific surface tasks, and surface and underground mining techniques were reviewed. It was noted that there is a need to develop separate codes and specifications for extraterrestrial construction, although earth-based codes provide a good starting point, and existing Corps of Engineers' Construction criteria and specifications may be a good model on which to base the new codes. Several key operational tasks, and concepts for accomplishing them were developed. One such important principle is to progress from simple to complex. Any lunar base should begin construction with modular, selfcontained units, and gradually progress to more complex construction using locally derived/developed materials. All groups emphasized that mission plans should be formed as concretely as possible, including crew size and mission timetable, to help establish realistic operations and performance criteria. extraterrestrial bases, lunar bases, extraterrestrial construction.

Proceedings of the FY90 Workshop on Extraterrestrial Mining and Construction, August 7 - 9, 1990.

Report on $ they made from ET bases mining WTF!!! 1990 FY = fiscal year

[edit on 31-8-2007 by infamouskiller]

The report you found a description of is not a report on mining income. It is a report on a workshop that looked at issues surrounding mining and construction on extraterrestrial planet surfaces, just like it says.

You obviously don't understand what is meant by fiscal year. A fiscal year, as opposed to a calendar year, is any continuous 12 months used by a business or government as its annual accounting period. For example, the U.S. government's fiscal year starts Oct 1 and ends Sep 30. All FY90 in the title means is the workshop was funded out of 1990's budget.

Did not Dr Deagle talk all about the Helium 3 Mining that has been ongoing on the moon for the past couple decades.

You can listen to the Granada Forum mp3s at
www.anomalicresearch.com...

He talked about Aurora, and Black Mantra as the transport aircraft, and how they are actually getting their technologies from hyper-dimensional beings (not so much aliens) who are utterly evil...

This IS very interesting, I have conducted researchs in the past and you find all kinds of 'hints and clues' to the existence of some pretty outrageous stuff.

Originally posted by infamouskiller
Space Environment Network Display (SEND): Limited Military Utility Assessment

Directly From The DOD declassified Website.

The U.S. Air Force Space Battlelab

Report Number(s):
XCSPACEBATTL (XCSPACEBATTL)

Monitor Series:
SPACEBATTL (SPACEBATTL)



Who the # are we battling in space????





(Mod edit: Used URL tags for really, really long URL to avoid sporking page formatting. -- Majic)

[edit on 8/29/2007 by Majic]

if you watch the STS-42 footage shot by the space shuttle, it is obvious someone or something is firing on these unknown objects in space. The object turns a 90 degree angle and instantaneously accelerates to like mach 245. The speed of this object has recently been calculated more or less but the margin of error I am not sure about.
The point is, not only in the STS-42 shuttle footage but also footage from other shuttle missions, it is clear that something is being fired at these objects. Not only that, these objects seem to have technology that is beyond what we have right now.. The government wouldn't be firing at it's own hardware in space. Not only that, but why would they fly near the shuttle and risk being caught on tape anyway? Something is going on that we just aren't being told the truth about. At least not from our government. Astronauts aplenty have returned, describing their experiences. Many times with video evidence to back it up. It is NASA and the government who are in denial here. It seems strange that someone would be firing at these objects at all. It makes little sense. Especially so close to the space shuttle. The STS-42 event took place close enough to the shuttle for the crew to videotape the event. By far the most intriguing nasa footage has to be the broken tether incident. The resulting hundreds of UFO's flying around threw mission control on the ground in a frenzy. They kept asking what in the world was going on and the astronaut simply replied that there was "debris" flying around. But it was more like something you would see in an aquarium tank. Bizarre!

-ChriS

Ive only read through this Post briefly but I will fill in some of the facts.

G's does mean G-force, but you can measure speed in G's. Its used mostly to get a rough estimate of high speeds rather than a accurate speed.

Originally posted by Mad Regent
G's does mean G-force, but you can measure speed in G's. Its used mostly to get a rough estimate of high speeds rather than a accurate speed.

No, it's not. That's like measuring distance in miles-per-hour.

In fact, that's a really good analogy, because when trying to measure speed in "g" or distance in speeds, you're off by a derivative operation each time, and in each case you'll need a duration to solve it.

So, how far is it from NYC to Boston in MPH? Can you estimate it that way? Roughly?

I think you should read what I posted again.

I don't mention anything about distances. Im talking about Ratio's.

You didn't read my post.

Expressing speed as acceleration is exactly analogous to expressing distance as speed.

It's as correct to say that velocity is a "g" as it is to say distance is a speed, which is to say not at all. In fact it's pretty much the same mistake, mathematically.

So if it sounds incorrect to you to say "How many MPH away is NYC from Boston?" it is much the same thing to say "How fast is 9g?", in each case it's the wrong derivative of position and you're missing a duration term in order to fix it.

Without the duration information - the "for how long", no 'g' term can be a speed, whether it's straight or in a ratio, just as you can't say "how far" given the MPH without the duration.

Actually, you'll also be missing the offset but you can at least assume that's zero. That would be the "and we started at 100 MPH" part in the case of g's.

Nice thread, despite numerous distractions.

Is there something they aren’t telling us? I’m sure some of you have seen this, but for those that haven’t…..

Can anyone explain this? (from Clemetine Lunar Image Browser : Navy satellite)
www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil...
Then enter the following data:

1 pixel = 1 km
resolution 256x256

longitude 1

latitude 311

WTF???????

Otherwise try
www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil... ensor=UVVIS&filter=415_nm
Also see:
youtube.com...

If you haven't seen the 'Behold A Pale Horse' by Bill Cooper (RIP) lecture, I suggest you do. There is photo after photo of anomalies on the moon which was taken directly from NASA publications (via macro-photography) which were later to be withdrawn from sale. There is also some good Mars footage.
Behold a Pale Horse
video.google.com.au...

This was made in 1991 and covers many issues that appear to be occurring in the world today along with much more such as:
the NWO
UFO's, photo's, unclassified documents etc
The existance and location of area 51 (in 91 this was denied that it even existed), 'Dulce' base, groom lake etc.
JFK assassination (CIA , Div 5 FBI, Secret Service - William Greer)
gun control
'91 Gulf war (this is spooky when he is talking about Bush)
mind control
population reduction
drugs controlled by CIA
moon and mars footage of buildings etc
cattle mutilation, abductions, microchips
secret societies, CFR, trialateral commission
Artificial alien threat to form NWO
crop circles
bogus cold war


Plus many more


This lecture goes for 4 hours 40 mins and is full of supressed information.
The actual book, "Behold a Pale Horse' which can be purchased (or downloaded for free) online, is the biggest selling underground book of all time. Just watch 20 mins a day if you don't have time.

RIP Bill Cooper who was shot in the head by the Apache County Sherriff's Dept in 2001 who previously had tried to arrest him on the morning of 911. He had previously stated that bin Laden would not be responsible for the pending 911 attack video.google.com.au...

ENJOY....




[edit on 2-9-2007 by cams]

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
You didn't read my post.

"How fast is 9g?"

9-G is how ever fast the Craft is going when it approaches that kind of force.

Your complicating things that don't need to be. Do not worry though, alot of scientists and mathmaticians over complicate or go the long way around things.

Originally posted by Mad Regent

9-G is how ever fast the Craft is going when it approaches that kind of force.

This statement is nonsensical. 9G is a rate of acceleration equal to nine times the acceleration of gravity. That is 9x9.8m/s2= 88.2m/s2. It isn't "how ever fast the Craft is going...".

Your complicating things that don't need to be.

Tom Bedlam couldn't have explained it much more simply and this is basic physics.

Do not worry though, alot of scientists and mathmaticians over complicate or go the long way around things.

A lot of technically ignorant people tend to want to over simplify and end up getting things completely wrong.

What happens when you drop something off the top of a building? Think about it.

Please dont try and prove me wrong with you're stone age intellectual level because you won't. You also shouldnt belive everything you read in your math and physics books, alot of it is ether inaccurate or plain wrong.



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[edit on 3-9-2007 by elevatedone]

Originally posted by Mad Regent
What happens when you drop something off the top of a building? Think about it.

Please dont try and prove me wrong with you're stone age intellectual level because you won't. You also shouldnt belive everything you read in your math and physics books, alot of it is ether inaccurate or plain wrong.

If you drop an object off a building it will accelerate at 9.8 m/s2 (1G) until it strikes the ground. It may or may not reach terminal velocity depending its shape and the height of the building. One thing it won't do is accelerate any faster. When it hits the ground it will decelerate at greater rate, depending on the surface stuck and the composition of the object dropped.

Your question does nothing to invalidate what either Tom Bedlam or I have said.

It accelerates untill it reaches the Speed! of 9G. When a Craft is discribed to be capable of 9G it means it will accelerate to that Speed! exactly the same as a Moterbike, it will only accelerate to a certain speed. So conclusion, its an 9G Craft!

You guys sound like your following what you learn like a ritual without thinking about the dynamics of the situation.

So if this is real.. which i'm going to assume it is because it is a military website.. why isn't this the smoking gun? why aren't people flipping out about this

this talks about everything from anti-gravity to bases on the moon to extra-terrestrials..

is this not credible? is there a possibility this is fake? all i see is people talking about gravity.. am i missing something?

Originally posted by Mad Regent
It accelerates untill it reaches the Speed! of 9G. When a Craft is discribed to be capable of 9G it means it will accelerate to that Speed! exactly the same as a Moterbike, it will only accelerate to a certain speed. So conclusion, its an 9G Craft!

You guys sound like your following what you learn like a ritual without thinking about the dynamics of the situation.

Your problem is one of not understanding terminology. 9G is not a speed but an acceleration rate. Speed is expressed as distance traveled per unit of time (mph, km/s, etc). Acceleration is the amount of change in speed per unit of time. One G is equal to a change in speed of 9.8 m/s per sec. That is fact, not ritual.

A 9G craft is capable of withstanding acceleration forces of that magnitude. It says nothing about the potential top speed. A craft capable of 1G of acceleration will reach the same speed as a craft capable of 9G acceleration, assuming no other forces are acting on them, but will take a lot longer to get to the same speed.

A high performance stunt plane may be able to generate the same acceleration forces in a turn as a jet fighter but will never match it in top speed.

A BMW R1100 RS will out accelerate my M3, covering the quarter mile in 12.2s at 178 km/h (avg accel = 4.05 m/s per sec). The M3 takes 13.4s at 172 km/h (avg accel = 3.56 m/s per sec). Does that mean the motorcycle has a higher top speed than my car? No, the top speed of the motorcycle is 215 km/h and the M3's is electronically limited to 250 km/h. Those are facts.

Originally posted by cams

RIP Bill Cooper who was shot in the head by the Apache County Sherriff's Dept in 2001 who previously had tried to arrest him on the morning of 911. He had previously stated that bin Laden would not be responsible for the pending 911 attack

Thanks for the post cams. In the interest of accuracy, and I should know, I knew Bill for many years, Bill was shot by Sheriff Deputies trying to serve a warrant. He was shot because he was waving a gun at them. Not because of any of this copnspiracy theories as you seem to imply.

Bill brought out a lot of information, some of it true, some not. But Bill engaged in heavy use of alcohol and probably had more than a few drinks when the deputies showed up.

Thanks again for the post.