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Police Officer Dead in Bush Motorcade Crash

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posted on Aug, 27 2007 @ 09:55 PM
No it is not you, its me

Sorry I could not pass it up. Anyway, I agree. I can understand keeping the motorcade moving, I can understand not stopping at red lights or stop signs, but what I do not understand is what is the big hurry? The limo, SUV or whatever the President is in, is bulletproof. So pot shots are not a huge issue. Any kind of a weapon that can do damage to the motorcade, can also be fired off if they are going fast. I am not suggesting 25 MPH or anything, just a safe speed for conditions. That being said, a "safe speed" for a motorcycle is much different than that of a automobile.

posted on Aug, 27 2007 @ 10:42 PM
a safe speed for a motorcycle SHOULD be greater than a limo or suv for ANY experienced driver... if they were at this fast of a speed and an eperienced biker crashed... why wuld u chance driving the president in a limo and/or suv that fast? .....and if the officer was not experienced why would u trust them to "protect'' the president.... seems sooooo pointless..

posted on Aug, 27 2007 @ 10:56 PM

Originally posted by 11Bravo

Originally posted by anxietydisorder
It's a dangerous job.

Its not even in the top ten of 'dangerous jobs'.

Timber cutters
Fishers .............

I would of thought suicide bomber would of been somewhere in that list

It's always bad to hear a biker has been killed - haven't ridden myself in more than a year now and I really miss it, had more than my share of scary moments including a low speed head on with a car when I was 16 (jumoed clear of the bike in time to just slide up and off the car thank $%^&!)

Slightly unrelated but round this way in Plymouth UK there has been a sharp increase in bike deaths this summer, can't really explain it.

Ride safe + car driver's THINK BIKE!

posted on Aug, 27 2007 @ 11:29 PM
I would have thought fishing was the most dangerous (bit of a pride thing there too, I'm afraid), but no, it's timber (according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics via Forbes) -

On the subject of the motorcade, I think there's something to be said for leaders who are unafraid amongst their constituents. If you're afraid of the people you work for, you probably aren't doing a very good job.

Maybe it's naive of me, but if a leader isn't willing to lead by example, live unafraid, and above all be willing to sacrifice for his people - why the Hell is he a leader? Weren't those the qualities that were traditionally valued?

Like I said, maybe it's an oversimplification on my part, but every time I see a world leader insulated from his/her people, it makes me seriously question the sort of job they're doing. There's certainly a need for some security, but in my country I think it's ludicrous - just look at the numbers.

We spend more than a billion dollars to protect one guy who makes about 500 grand a year?

What's Salman Rushdie's security budget? We could get by with that amount dedicated to the president, I think.

[edit on 27-8-2007 by WyrdeOne]

[edit on 27-8-2007 by WyrdeOne]

posted on Aug, 28 2007 @ 12:39 AM
When I lived in D.C. they would go flying by through the city at least 60 miles an hour. This in IN THE CITY, through traffic. They have some that pull ahead of the group to scream at you to pull over, they a second set will fly past them to go do the same. Then a back SUV will pull through, depending on the traffic, and 3 guys sitting on the tailgate with machine guns would scream at you to move over, regardless if there was a car there. They didn't care. Then several more black SUV's pull through and a couple of black limo's fly by. I've seen it at leas five times. Really screws up traffic.

posted on Aug, 28 2007 @ 02:33 AM

Originally posted by Sad Lil Alex
a safe speed for a motorcycle SHOULD be greater than a limo or suv for ANY experienced driver.

Sure if you are on a straight path, but what if you have a sharp turn? I don't know about you, but I certainly do not enjoy scraping my knee across the ground cause I wouldn't slow down.

posted on Aug, 28 2007 @ 06:26 AM
The real culprit here is the entrenched system of using local cops for the motorcycle escorts of presidential motorcades. It's a prestigious assignment, given out like those signing pens and lapel buttons, but these guys are obviously not up to the demands it entails.

The SS, worked up with paranoia, machismo, and too many Tom Clancy movies, wants the motorcade to run like some Hollywood paramilitary chase scene. The cycle cops are window dressing, like those little flags on the presidential tank, and totally untrained for the rigors of this high-speed, frenzied madness. So they're crashing right and left.

Blame the SS for both creating this climate of hysteria about moving the Preznit, and for continuing to use untrained local cops for the cycle escorts.

This death was totally avoidable.

posted on Aug, 28 2007 @ 05:22 PM

...Rio Rancho Police Department spokesman Officer John Francis...said Casey had transferred to the Rio Rancho force a few years ago from the UNM police department. He had received special training in riding in motorcades and had previously escorted Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney on separate occasions.

It appears that this might be just a tragic accident.

I would suspect that using local law enforcement for the motorcades is the most efficient method of protecting the president and I also suspect that a large motorcade provides more cushion for the president.

However, having had three accidents during presidential motorcades over the course of just a year probably means that the system does need some scrutiny.

I don't think it's fair to blame the Secret Service. Local law enforcement agencies know that these kinds of activities are pretty common, and not just for the president, and they are the ones whose responsibility it is ensure that qualified officers are available.

posted on Aug, 28 2007 @ 06:45 PM

Originally posted by section8citizen
None of this looks suspicious on the surface, accidents happen. That being said, it is a bit strange that it keeps happening to THIS president. Maybe he is just bad luck...I know he has been for me since he became President

Maybe you should wear one of those small skull helmets. One of those will keep your vision free and offer you minimal protection. Better than nothing at all. You've probably considered or tried one already -- just thought I'd make a suggestion.

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