Matt 21:42-43 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: `The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone. This was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes'? "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.

Nice post

It's a good relic to have been found, but I really fail to see any significance other than..."Hey, that's cool".

Yes, iceofspades, I think it's cool.

It appears only the agnostics and people that left the church have any interest in the Holy Grail...

Possibly the "believers" are caught up too much in their particular beliefs, to make any comments.

Believing in something unreal excludes the believing in reality, which makes them blind.

The myth is always more exciting than the reality.
But the reality can also be mythterious.

For example, drinking from the Holy Grail is supposed to give eternal life.
As mentioned, the Popes have supped from it their wine, the most recent occurence was in the 1960's.

If the base is the actual grail, then it would take a lot of persuasion to have the custodians turn the cup around, and fill it with wine to drink from it.

Nobody in recent history, like the last 2000 years, has managed to do that.

Wouldn't that make a nice story.

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I know that in the In the"Indiana Jones"movie""Quest for the holy grail"drinking from the grail was to give eternal life.BUT ive not heard this was an actual legend.And if so Someone must have tried it.

Its a good story, and seems quite plausible.

IMO, I don't think there would be any way to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is the actual 'Holy Grail'. To have the exact cup that Jesus drank from during the last supper, is impossible to prove.

Incedently, how does the 'Philosophers Stone' play into this?

Was that just for similarity sake or do you believe that the Grail and the Stone are one in the same??

Grailkeeper asks about the connection between the Holy Grail and the Philosophers Stone.

Both are the same, as the Holy Grail is said to have the words "Lapis Exilis" ie. Philosophers Stone inscribed on it.

The inscription on the "Holy Cup" of Valencia has been there for thousands of years, but was supposedly only discovered a few years ago.

In the age of the Internet we can now immediately read the inscription, instead of going on a long pilgrimage, as in the age of horse and cart.

It's a spoiled sport, seeking grails.

I suppose I will have to check the facts myself, sometime.

I'm now seeking a wife, which appears as hard as finding the Holy Grail, though it is more sociable.

It seems like God really does have a sense of humor.. They've had it all these years and been drinking out of the wrong end.

i dont dispute what it says on the bottom, and that may be the grail, but im pretty sure i've read that the philosophers stone isn't actually a stone in this sense or more correctly form

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one question comes to mind. why would the inscription be in arabic? wouldnt it be in aramaic or latin or something?

honestly, i dont know enough about the history of arabic, where it was common and when. a quick wiki check does me little good, so i thought id put the question out there.

id go on and explain what I think the holy grail really is, and I'm still convinced of it... but unfortunately, it is a topic that is not allowed to be discussed on this site

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id go on and explain what I think the holy grail really is, and I'm still convinced of it... but unfortunately, it is a topic that is not allowed to be discussed on this site

what subject/topic isn't allowed on this site? i need to know if something near this topic isn't allowed, i cant imagine what you mean right now, please explain.

Originally posted by Randomdam

Originally posted by scientist
id go on and explain what I think the holy grail really is, and I'm still convinced of it... but unfortunately, it is a topic that is not allowed to be discussed on this site

what subject/topic isn't allowed on this site? i need to know if something near this topic isn't allowed, i cant imagine what you mean right now, please explain.

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The subject not allowed is anything regarding psychoactive substances, psychedelics or any other type of controlled substance that isn't approved by the FDA and DEA (despite the conspiratorial nature of ATS). It is a shame, since so many conspiracy involve such things. Even bigger shame, because it would have been a good contribution to this topic, in my humble opinion.