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Record Low Unemployment In Some States, And Americans Won't Take Jobs

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posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:14 AM
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Record Low Unemployment In Some States, And Americans Won't Take Jobs


www.msnbc.msn.com

Record low unemployment across parts of the West has created tough working conditions for business owners, who in places are being forced to boost wages or be creative to fill their jobs.

John Francis, who owns the McDonald’s in Sidney, Mont., said he tried advertising in the local newspaper and even offered up to $10 an hour to compete with higher-paying oil field jobs. Yet the only calls were from other business owners upset they would have to raise wages, too.


(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 26/8/2007 by anxietydisorder]




posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:14 AM
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It astounds me that the United States is complaining about illegal immigrants taking jobs away from hard working Americans, and yet we have a situation like this.


The U.S. Department of Labor reports the mountain West region — covering eight states along the Rocky Mountains — has the lowest overall unemployment rate in the nation. The region hit an all-time low of 3.4 percent in May.

The effects are everywhere. Logging equipment in Idaho sits idle as companies have a tough time finding workers. A shortage of lifeguards has forced Helena to shorten hours at children-only pools. A local paper in Jackson, Wyo., has page after page of help wanted ads.
www.msnbc.msn.com...


Perfectly good jobs that are not being filled.
Maybe the States need to start importing workers to fill these positions.

www.msnbc.msn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:26 AM
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Its like this when you go into store you are expected to buy goods and services legally so its the same when it comes to filling any labour shortages in the YS the likes of guest workers should live and work in the US legally.



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:28 AM
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Honestly, I think the statistics are flawed in one respect. While it's technically true that few are unemployed, it's not true that that's a good thing. Most of those jobs are jobs that don't pay enough to make it worth doing, which means that those in those positions need to take on at least one more job just to make ends meet.

I think that raising the wages that we pay workers is a healthy thing, as it encourages competition in the market. Businesses need to start stepping up, otherwise people will start making their own opportunities to get their bills paid.

TheBorg



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:29 AM
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Your complaining because the economy is so wonderful that everyone is working?

Of course the Libs want everyone to believe that the economy is horrible, but that is obviously not the case...

As for the Illegals, I don't think that too many are repeating the mantra that the Illegals are taking our jobs anymore, I think the main point now is that they are simply "ILLEGAL"

They are criminals from the moment they step into our country illegally. Who wants more criminals?

At least that is what I get at most of the meetings...

Semper



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:31 AM
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Most of those jobs are jobs that don't pay enough to make it worth doing,


The article itself refutes this...

In the article it clearly states that higher wages are being offered, but so many are already in gainful employment they wont change jobs...

Sorry that don't wash...

Semper



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:33 AM
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It depends on what part of the country you're living in semper, as to whether or not the economy is good. Up here by Seattle, for example, it takes 4 incomes to just pay the bills. How is that good economically? People are being forced to live with either family or friends just to support themselves. That's not a sign of a good economy; that's the signs of a bad one coming.

TheBorg



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:35 AM
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Americans don't want to raise wages, they've proven that by turning to retailers like Wal-Mart. They want to pay as little as possible for the crap they buy, and they're not willing to pay workers to produce those products.

The end result is to outsource high paying manufacturing jobs to countries like China, India, Mexico, etc.......

It looks like you've made your bed, now your economy will suffer for it.



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:41 AM
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The problem is that there are only a select number of "high-paying" jobs out there. What happens when those are all filled? What's left are the jobs that no one else wants to do, but has to to make ends meet.

So, you would be telling me that, to make ends meet, some people should be made to do a job or jobs that they hate? That doesn't inspire much in the way of confidence in the Capitalist system. I guess though, that that's just what the Capitalist system is, a group of opportunists feeding off of those that are less fortunate to "catch the break" first.

TheBorg



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:54 AM
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reply to post by TheBorg
 


I'm sorry TheBorg, but the U.S. is going to need to start thinking more like a collective.
(I'm not a Commie)

Right now, the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer, and the whole country suffers.

Take a look at the Debt Clock. I don't even know what that number is.

www.brillig.com...

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.44 billion per day since September 29, 2006!



Take a look at the Trade Deficit Ticker, you've sold your future to other nations.
www.americaneconomicalert.org...


Throw another billion on the fire to keep you warm.
Whoops, you already did......


[edit on 26/8/2007 by anxietydisorder]



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:57 AM
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All things in their own time. I'm not too worried about the economy. It will straighten out, one way or another. Lets just hope that it's not by means of a collapse.

TheBorg



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:57 AM
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Employment figures by themselves aren't a reliable guide to how good an economy is serving the population. You have to look at many differnt factors because money circulates . Job creation figures can be deceptive because you have to look deeper and examine what income bracket the majority of jobs are being created in. If the majority of jobs are in the lower income brackets then fewer people will be able to afford health insurance , there own home e.t.c .



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 05:02 AM
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.... which accounts for the ill tempered nature of a large portion of the population. It's things like low-wage jobs that are forcing people to become extremely creative with what they can do to make ends meet. It's just sad that we don't get paid what we're all worth.

It seems funny to me that those that do the most real work get paid the least for it.

TheBorg



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 05:09 AM
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The problem is this...

Everyone has a sad story to tell about how it is "Up Here" or "Down Here" or in this area or that area....

The simply truth is unavoidable and factual..

The economy is the best it has EVER been....

Naysayers have been predicting the "DOOM" of the economy exactly along Democrat/Lib lines ever sense there has been a Conservative in office.

It is not perfect, but it is the best in history...

The average American makes more money, has more time to enjoy that money and a better future than ever before in history...

The standard of living is the highest it has ever been...


These are not just stories, that are facts backed up by the OP post and other economic foundational study sites...

Economy
Wall Street
NFIB

Now you will find that almost all Libs will dispute this. They site examples in small areas that they may be familiar with or not, depends on if you believe them. I choose the experts.
Their hatred for President Bush is well documented and absolutely will not allow them to EVER admit anything positive that may be happening. So one must of course discard their opinions as hate rhetoric.

You can't really argue the Global and Nationwide figures... They are what they are...

Semper



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 05:10 AM
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Dang, the U.S. is about 9 trillion in the hole right now.


The eye-popping $9 trillion gross national debt is owed by the "General Fund." That's the part funded by our income taxes. Half of that goes for the military and to pay interest on the debt. Fortunately two huge parts of the budget, Social Security and Medicare, are running huge surpluses.
zfacts.com...


Just take a look at the tickers on the link.
Second by second the debt grows like an uncontrolled elephant on a feeding frenzy.



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by anxietydisorder
Take a look at the Debt Clock. I don't even know what that number is.



I had to look at that twice, the cents threw me off.

The U.S. is now in debt nearly nine-trillion dollars.

Of course this is what happens though, Capitalism is not a system that can last,
at least not the way world is now.



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 05:20 AM
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AD,

Exactly what I was talking about as far as the "Doom Sayers"

Short of wearing a placard that says the "END IS NEAR". nothing has ever occurred negative in regards to the National Debt that has ever affected citizens...

Oh sure you will hear how HORRIBLE it is... You will here about WHAT will happen....

You will here about WHAT MUST happen...

AND????

Nothing ever happens....

No other Collapse like the 30's
Just more people predicting DOOM, all the while making more and spending more and taking more vacations and just living better than they ever have..

That is the funny thing.. Even the DOOM SAYING libs are all watching their big screen TV's. on their HD DVD players, driving their new cars and vacationing on their new boats...

All while predicting the end, one that never happens and that all, yes ALL the experts say is the historically best economy.


MAN!! It gets so old all the people telling everyone WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN... while what is happening is the greatest economic boon in world history and they ignore that....

Again, it is people that can't see past a negative and refuse to believe something good is happening...

Semper



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by iori_komei
Capitalism is not a system that can last, at least not the way world is now.


I think you hit the nail on the head iori.
There needs to be a fair system between Capitalism and Communism. In some ways I think Canada has found a solution, but many people think we're too Socialist.

What ever the solution is though, America needs to find it soon. If the economy in the States goes into a meltdown, so goes the rest of the world.



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 05:31 AM
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There are two problems at hand.
The first problem is that the biggest supporters of the Free Market have failed to learn a key lesson. The key lesson is that the Free Market needs a degree of regulation to operate and for people to be able to better themselves in such a way. At best the most of the biggest supporters of the Free Market in the US are hypercritical because they ignore corporate welfare and other anti free market practices.

While it is true that skilled and workers with greater responsibility deserve higher pay people should be able to question the flawed corporate culture that exits without bringing new meaning to the assault on reason. Corporate executives will continue to get big pay outs no matter how poorly a company is doing for as long as the American right continues to attack anyone who wants to oppose such measures on reasonable grounds.



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by semperfortis
That is the funny thing.. Even the DOOM SAYING libs are all watching their big screen TV's. on their HD DVD players, driving their new cars and vacationing on their new boats...


I don't know where you live or who you know or which 'libs' you're talking about,
but the vast majority of people can afford maybe one or two of those.

Oh, and I'm not counting the people who put themselves into massive debt buying
things with there credit cards without considering the consequences.



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