My prediction of what the outcome will be like for the Dem. nominee selection goes like this:

Winner: Clark
2nd Place: Dean
3rd Place: Edwards
4th Place: Kucinich
5th Place: Kerry
6th Place: Gephardt (sp?)
7th Place: Lieberman
8th Place: Sharpton

Outcome: Bush vs. Clark

I think Big Bird will come out on top...

Who would be best against Bush, remember i'm not American, but if I was I would vote against Bush.

Leiberman. He's the guy who could turn my vote and make me vote Democrat. Dean is just too shadey, back peddaling and playing the crowd the way Clinton does (See Colonel's thread "Dean is the MAN"). Clark is too much of a novice to stand up to a campaign. He's already proven this in the primary, and the big guns will be pulled out come the actual election. Sharpton? Don't get me started on that racist. Don't know too much about Kerry or Gephart, or however you spell his name, but Kerry tends to put me to sleep...

What makes you put Kucinich so high on the list?

That spells a re-election for Bush. I weep for the future.

Originally posted by Flinx
What makes you put Kucinich so high on the list?

I believe that Kerry will begin to even out and stay were he is in the polls and then Kucinich would get his turn and move past Kerry and stop there. But anything can happen!

[Edited on 16-1-2004 by TheCatalyst]

lol, just noticed your signature, TheCatalyst...could you possibly have an alterior motive for your prediction?

I'm looking at it from the ouside, and people usually don't want to "waste their vote." It has nothing to do with issues, just to make your vote count. I wouldn't be so concerned but our economy is directly linked to USA. I think that the Dem.'s better get it together quick or this will be an easy win for Bush.

Originally posted by intrepid
I'm looking at it from the ouside, and people usually don't want to "waste their vote." It has nothing to do with issues, just to make your vote count. I wouldn't be so concerned but our economy is directly linked to USA. I think that the Dem.'s better get it together quick or this will be an easy win for Bush.

See, now that's a mentality I've never understood. There's no such thing as wasting your vote. Every additional vote the libertarian party gets speaks worlds to the politicians who are in power. If there's a massive insurgence like there was...at some point in time (can't remember the year) when the communist party got over 1 million votes, politicians will begin changing some policies. Despite the fact the candidate you voted for didn't get in.

I see something building in the democratic party of late, especially with this Iowa Caucus. I think they may be about to get their act together and grow some backbones. Even the more conservative (aka pushover) dems seen to be getting more aggressive.

I say they should go all out and attack using every trick in the book. It would be a mistake to just focus on Bush. They need to attack his handlers, that's where the administration is weak...

Originally posted by Flinx
I say they should go all out and attack using every trick in the book.

That's the problem, they are on the attack and using every trick in the book...against eachother. They're doing Bush a huge favor.

This is getting interesting. More exciting than the last elections.

It's going to be tight. Kerry, Gebhardt, Edwards, and Clark are all gaining momentum. And there has been a lot of undecided who are picking candidates - and it doesn't seem like they are choosing Dean [in Iowa]. Say Gedhardt pulls Iowa, Kerry/Clark in NH, and we'll probably see a strong showing from Edwards and Clark in the south. Dean could lose at every turn. Though, I think Dean is losing momentum because he's been on top; he's being attacked. What happens if someone else is at the top. I think it will come down to Clark and Kerry. Clark has been iffy on the war and Kerry, imho, better represents most Americans who supported the war but thinks Bush was weak w/ post war planning. Kerry could use his war vote to his advantage actually. Kerry w/ Edwards in the VP spot could beat Bush, I think.

Dean will be the winner but diebold will choose Clark. It doesn't matter who runs against Bush he will loose.

Clark isnt in the Iowa caucus. Nor is Lieberman.

What I find interesting is that despite all of the endorsments Dean's been getting, his poll numbers haven't improved significantly.

In the last few days Kerry has surged taking the lead in Iowa. It is VERY possible that Kerry could end up taking lead overall.

P.S.- Does anyone know exactly how they make the final decision for the nominee, and when? Is there a national vote or what? I never paid much attention to the process before now.

Originally posted by junglejake
That's the problem, they are on the attack and using every trick in the book...against eachother. They're doing Bush a huge favor.

True....unfortunately. If Dean does end up getting the nomination, the bashing he's received from the other dems may prove to be a mortal wound....so to speak.

This is the problem I have with the American political system. We have everyone agreeing and nothing getting done. Doesn't anybody know that they have to be united to beat the GOP? Some should step down for the good of the country.

considering a recent CBS poll found Bush to have 60 % approval rating, though I hate polls, does anyone really think he'll lose?? I mean, really?

I think he'll win, myself. BUT, I'd like to see a stronger Democratic party result from this election. We've seen some leadership emerge in Clark and Edwards, imho.

Originally posted by Flinx
True....unfortunately. If Dean does end up getting the nomination, the bashing he's received from the other dems may prove to be a mortal wound....so to speak.

Bush is throwing the election period. The immigration bill, the speeding money on space exploration with a deficit, etc. Clark and Kerry are the only 2 that have the nominations that matter. Clark has Clintons which means he has the Bush Families (see CIA mena) and Kerry has skull n bones. The policy in place will not be changed unless Dean does win but it won’t happen.