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The Book of Illusion: Andy Kaufman alive?

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posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 04:29 AM
I somehow ran across this site today.

I read it from beginning to end and was left baffled. Basically the guy alludes that he is the living Andy Kaufman and that he never died. The site seems to be one big puzzle and he even gives the name of a person who died in '84 that took his place as the person who really died.

Only ATS members could get to the bottom of this one.

Would you guys check it out and tell me what you think?

Personally I think he's dead but this guy is really taking the whole "he faked his death" thing to the limit.

He's quite convincing although cryptic at all times and drops clues all over the place.

My main questions are:

1. Who is Nathan MC Coy?


2. Why is he KING?

3. Is it true that Andy Kaufman's Social Security number is not a part of the SS dead list and that he still pays taxes?

I think that is where the answers are to be found but then again I could be totally wrong.

After over a hundred some odd pages on fake drones there is way more of a chance to check on this and get some answers.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.


posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 07:59 AM
Its widely known that Andy was a practical joker,but I highly doubt that he would take a faked death this far.Whats it been now,almost 20 years?One good way to start an investigation on this would be to contact George Shapiro,Andy's agent,and see what he thinks of this.Good luck.

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 08:59 AM
Supposedly Elvis and Jim Morrison are still alive too, depending on who you ask.

What did Kaufman ever do to become so well known anyway, I confess I'm Kaufman ignorant. He seems to have that mysterious Paris Hilton type celebrity in that he never did anything entertaining, funny or notable to get famous... he just somehow did.

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 02:33 PM
The guy was brilliant; have you never watched Taxi?

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 02:42 PM

Originally posted by ChrisJr03
The guy was brilliant; have you never watched Taxi?

james carrey did a spot on impersonation of him in "man on the moon"
anyways Carey couldn't hold a candle to kaufman. the last scee o the movie they kind of alluded to him still being alive

oh and i think the "king" is that wrestler that was andy's nemesis during his wrestling stint.

[edit on 25-8-2007 by darkheartrising]

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 05:21 PM
Yes, Andy Kauffman was great on Taxi as well as Saturday Night Live. His stand-up work was legendary.

The "King" that was referenced may indeed be Jerry "The King" Lawler, the professional wrestler who Andy feuded with. Andy had a love for pro wrestling and got a huge kick out of playing the bad guy. He would even wrestle women! Anyway, Kauffman's feud with Lawler culminated with a scuffle on Late Night with David Letterman in the old NBC days. I'm sure the original video is on Youtube or something like that. If not, then the Jim Carey one is fairly accurate.

If you don't know why Kauffman was/is famous and if you actually put him in the same sentence as someone like Paris Hilton, then you definitely owe it to yourself to research this guy and see some of his work. You could start with Jim Carey's role as Kauffman in "Man on the Moon". It was pretty good.

And for the record, I believe Kauffman is dead. Although he was known for crazy practical jokes that were pulled only for his own personal benefit and humor, faking your death and still working it after 20 years is a bit too much for me to believe. But if for some reason Kauffman is in fact still alive, then I don't believe that this guy on this website is him. If Andy wanted to come back then he would have no trouble making the right calls and coming back with a huge bang, rather than on some obscure website that no one knows about.

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 05:43 PM
I thought he was a fantastic entertainer. Also "The King" maybe a reference to Elvis Prestley? Andy did some impersonating of the rock star.

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Rasputin13
You could start with Jim Carey's role as Kauffman in "Man on the Moon". It was pretty good.

I've seen that actually. Zzzzzz gosh that's one of the most unentertaining movies, with one of the most boring main characters that I've ever seen in my entire life, and the critics actually said that Carrey was a better Andy Kaufman than Andy Kaufman. Seriously, insomniacs should throw their nature-sounds cd away and just let that movie run in the background, they'd be out like a light.

When I said I'm Kaufman ignorant, I meant it in the sense of not understanding why on Earth anyone ever found him to be funny, he wasn't. I actually think most people agree with that too, despite the comments in his favor here. The Paris Hilton comparison I made probably would hit home with a lot more people than you think.

On topic, I do agree with you that he's really dead. I don't really buy into all the "they're still alive!" ideas that fly around about celebrities even many years after they're dead. It just doesn't sound sensible to me that any celebrity who lived in the public eye for years and probably gloated in every minute of it, would suddenly wake up one day and say to themselves, wow I think I'd like to disappear so I think I'll fake my death.

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 07:56 PM
Thx 4 the link.
It reminds me of the Paul McCartney is dead,Elvis was in Home Alone,Jim Morrison etc websites.
I love stuff like this,its what the internet was made for,but this one takes the biscuit.
Just because the guy has eyebrows slightly like Kaufman it doesnt make a good case for life after death imho.

[edit on 25-8-2007 by Kilgour]

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 08:06 PM

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 08:16 PM

Originally posted by fweshcawfee

I've seen that actually. Zzzzzz gosh that's one of the most unentertaining movies, with one of the most boring main characters that I've ever seen in my entire life,

Each to their own, the film and the leading actor received critical acclaim
so your opinion is very much in the minority.

When I said I'm Kaufman ignorant, I meant it in the sense of not understanding why on Earth anyone ever found him to be funny, he wasn't.

So you say, but who would you classify as funny then? Your idea of humour could obviously be quite different to that of the average person then.
Andy Kaufman was an unorthodox comedian, in that he was well known for being very much against traditional stand up and saw himself, famously as 'song and dance man'. Whilst Jim Carrey did a marvellous take on him in 'Man On The Moon', the film only touched on Kaufman's brilliance, energy and truly amazing comical talent.

"I try to please people, to give them a good time, but I refuse to make my act conform to traditional show-biz standards of entertainment. There's a little voice that says, 'Oh, no, you can't do that, that's breaking all the rules.' That's the voice of show business. Then this other little voice says, 'Try it.' And most of the time, when the voice comes on and says, 'No,' that's the time it works." Andy Kaufman.

Hey, hold on a sec, could fweshcawfee really be Andy?
Here denying his existence whilst provoking debate on the great man.

[edit on 25-8-2007 by pmexplorer]

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 08:19 PM
Why would he be trying to convince people who he was?
Just call CNN and do an interview with L.King.
And he was funny if you think so, I dont think he was that funny really.
Jim carrey is funny, or how bout Richard prior? Now that guy was funny.

Pretty please dont call me an idiot

[edit on 25-8-2007 by earth2]

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 09:22 PM

Originally posted by pmexplorer
your opinion is very much in the minority.

Hehe you have no idea just how right you are about that, and about a lot more than just where Kaufman is concerned too.

Oddly enough, Kaufman and I may have a few things in common when it comes to being the oddball who refuses to conform to what the mainstream says you're supposed to think. Ouch

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 09:47 PM
Kaufman for President!

Dead or alive he'd do a better job than that muppet monkey man who's in charge now...

It wouldn't surprise me if Kaufman did fake his death (maybe he was sick of being famous)?

As for the Paris Hilton references... please... Go read Lost in the fun house!

posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 11:00 PM
Andy WAS funny, on Taxi, and his underdog on SNL was a Riot, truly great as was his Elvis, but later on he got stupid, to me he become what Tom Green started out as, ( I find Tom Green disturbing ) It was a shame too, because he was Great on Taxi. I hope he's dead, but then he is just stupid enough NOT to be

posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 07:56 PM

Originally posted by thedigirati
I hope he's dead...

^^ Poor choice of words there perhaps.
Would be something incredible if anyone was able to pull off a stunt
like that but frankly I think there's more chance of Elvis Presley
releasing a new album.

posted on Aug, 28 2007 @ 03:02 PM
If you don't understand why people thought he was funny then you don't understand comedy at all.

He was completely original with the comedy he did. At that time there was nobody else like that. He did a lot he doesn't really get credit for. The wrestling thing he did was what got more people into watching wrestling in those days and even Vince McMahon of the WWE gives Kaufman some credit for making wrestling what it is today, entertainment wise.

Does anyone in this thread that doesn't like Kaufman understand that all that wrestling stuff was compeltely staged? Including when Jerry Lawler smacked him on Letterman?

His Mighty Mouse skit from Saturday Night Live is considered one of the funniest skits ever done on that show. People looking at it today think it looks stupid "oh it's a guy standing next to a record playing mighty mouse and he lip syncs with it" is what most people who don't understand him would say.

The guy would do huge comedy shows and pack the audience into buses at the end and take them all out for cookies and milk. He did things you wouldn't expect and never saw coming. Tom Green tried to be like that but he failed miserably at it because he would take things too far and make it all stupid. Kaufman knew when to stop with his practical jokes.

The guy was just completely original and can't be copied. If he actually did fake his death I wouldn't be surprised at all. Even most of his celebrity friends and some of his family still wonder to this day if he actually is dead. That's how much of a joker he was when your closest friends and family don't even know what to believe that's says something

posted on Aug, 23 2008 @ 07:21 PM
Andy Kaufman for president
see youtube campaign ad here:

posted on Oct, 28 2008 @ 02:02 PM

posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 01:15 PM
The song done by R.E.M. "Man on the Moon" may contain a rather cryptic clue on this whole topic.

"Now Andy did you hear about this one?
Tell me, are you locked in the punch?
Hey, Andy are you goofing on Elvis?
Hey, baby.
Are you having fun?
If you believed they put a man on the moon, man on the moon.
If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve, then nothing is cool."

My interpretation reads - a lot of people thought the moon landing was a hoax as well, maybe Andy's death was too - maybe he's still "having fun", that "if you believe that there was nothing up his sleeve, then nothing is cool" about his death.

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