Originally posted by Skyfloating
in other words, once a lesson is learned pain neednt be perpetuated. and we dont ALWAYS need to experience pain in order to know something is
changing. Thats what we have been USED TO in the last thousand years, but there just MIGHT BE another way. I only want to experience pain when I am
doing something wrong. In this sense pain is only to wake me up.
YES! This is PRECISELY what I believe!
As for the Buddhist belief that Salvation comes from Suffering - I believe when/if Buddha said this, he meant it in a very simple and straightforward
mental/spiritual concept. I will attempt to explain my
analysis of its meaning:
We are born unconsciously into Perfection as Perfection (i.e. Love, Joy, Gratitude, Playfulness, Curiosity, Compassion, Well-Being, etc) and we fall
from it based on a misunderstanding between our Outer/Inner Environments' relationship with one another, and this is (more or less) propagated by
parent/guardians, schools, societies, governments, all which potentially might have made observations in fear and thus should be crossed-checked by
One's ability to cross-check is minimal from the Time of Birth to the Coming of Age, mostly due to a lack of information to draw from (only
mysterious/genetic memory can be used initially) and the impressionability of youth (as it is meant to be).
The Time of Birth is about discovering the how, what, where, why, and when of our experience.
The Coming of Age is experienced upon the discovery that all of the above is a direct result of our own focus (intent = creation) and that we are one
of many with this ability in all of existence (i.e. we are not alone in the universe).
We are Coming of Age as humanity right now, realizing that it is OUR OWN hand that directs our destiny rather than any outside force. We must claim
responsibility for our suffering (suffering is pain re-experienced) by acknowledging that the only one who is capable of inflicting true suffering on
oneself is only oneself.
This is true as a person (Bill Rossman is responsible for Bill Rossman) as it is for a world (Earth is responsible for Earth).
Salvation by definition* is the state of being protected from suffering.
(* = definition brought to you by my discernment and dictionary.com)
One cannot be protected from something one has never experienced... so by my own observations, perceptions, and philosophies I would say Buddha was
referring to the fact that the very moment one has experienced suffering, salvation is at hand - available for anyone who wishes to let go of the
suffering and embrace salvation.
One cannot hold a flower if one is already holding onto a rock.
Only once one knows what a rock is can one choose to leave the rock alone.
I consider myself part Zen-Buddhist... I guess it shows.