Originally posted by orangetom1999
Heronumber0,
It has been some time now since I have read this but I believe both Giuseppi Garibaldi and Guiseppi Mazzini were Masons and anti Rome.
That is a surprise to me. I thought that he defended Rome in the official history but I should know better than to believe official history shouldn't
I?
As to the Rothchilds financing both sides I was not aware of them doing so in this conflict but recall hearing of their maneuvers during the
Napoleanic Wars..financing both sides...and a naval blockade by both sides such that the only ships which could sail and commute were the ships
flying the Rothchild flag. They had a monopoly on shipping as long as the war dragged on.
My mistake there! Yes, you are right, the Rothschilds were heavily involved in profiting from both sides. I believe that the Rothschild on the
British side, Nathan Rothschild, received early notification of Wellington winning unexpectedly at Waterloo in 1815 and created a 'run' on the stock
market by selling his shares and then re-bought them at rock bottom prices. A new Bank of England was then set up under the control of Nathan
Rothschild. National Debt was then created in ever-increasing amounts as the Government borrowed heavily to finance their ventures, including war - a
prime investment. As of 2006, the National Debt stood at £478.60 bn in the UK, without counting pensions liabilities - money owed to a 'National
Bank' - extraordinary!
As to the war between Rome and the Masons..I believe it still goes on.
Recall my comment about the Hellenic Pharisees and the Judaic Pharisees on another thread.
Watch closely..Hellenic ...from Alexandria Egypt...Gnosticism=Masonry.
Eastern Philosophy and Dogma. This is the source for the Catholic wisdom. The wise men from Alexandria..Philo, Adamantius Originese and others.
THe Judiac Pharisees just took another trail. They came into contact with this Eastern Philosophy in Babylon in the captivity. Look at the numbers
which left Israel in the captivity and the numbers who returned. Most stayed in Babylon and did not return. They loved the Babylonian system including
the Babylonian Talmud.
I read your other thread with interest. And I can see that most mainstream religions have been diverted by attractive intelectual philosophies. The
educated brain can be charmed by semantic ambiguities, ritual and exclusivity.
Just like Roman Catholicism ..rules and dogma for insiders and rules and dogma for outsiders. It just happens to be a Catholic Talmud...or
Catholic Dogma. Dont they call non Roman Catholics...Heritics??
Now ..to be fair ..do all Jews and all Catholics or Masons practice this. No they dont. But when called on or directed they must obey...and not
tell
I see your point and I can reiterate that men can be attracted to secrecy and exclusive groups. In childhood, one of my favourite activities was to
hang around in an exclusive makeshift treehouse with my friends. We were a secretive, exclusive gang and it was fun. However, in adulthood, this can
and does lead to childish behaviour by Secret Society members. I have witnessed it myself.
You take each of these groups and remember that they are at war with each other...but will join for a time when the enemy is a common enemy
more important than thier disputes with each other.
Throw in their business connections and then their business connections with Governments and you have the connection to world history.
Remember that the Jews did not trust Rome and the Church. They still do not today and historically for good sound reasons...but will do business when
it requires so.
Thanks for answering my question. This now makes a bit of sense. Business (money making) is of paramount importance and can overcome adversarial
politics. The Vatican is like a country with its Bank and, of course, wants a return for its money, so they are willing to 'jump into bed' with
'enemies' to make a financial profit. That clears up my doubts now.
Nice one, orangetom!
HPUM - I am not saying that the Catholic Church is Satanist. You have to read through some of the sources that I have posted to find that a
growing number of prelates are openly pointing at a (probably) small number of priests who are practising Satanic rites inside the Vatican. Yes, some
probably have an axe to grind, but I think it may be just another problem that the Catholic Church is trying to hide. I was surprised by the number
of high-ranking priests in the Vatican listed as Satanists or Luciferians:
Satanists in the Vatican?
However, you don't have to believe it, but please research it for yourself, as I will, and then give us your findings in this forum.