Is David Icke a con man?

I will say one thing about David Icke - coming out with his theories (including the Son of God bit) took guts and had huge impact on him and his relatives.

I am not saying that I support any or all of his views but I say that anyone who puts their head up over the parapet to fight their corner without resorting to covert black ops or the AK47 and IEDs should get our respect. We should hear him out, question and make constructive critiscim where needed but not just right him off. If you are still not convinced then line it up with the other thousands of kooky threads on this board and ignore him. Listen first, then ignore but do not insult.

That is the least we can do as members of this forum I feel

Are you crazy? The guy is living in a one room flat and have severe economic problems. Why are you buying the mainstream lies?

I like the guys imagination and sense of humour.

The reason he has arthritis, problems writing and surviving economically is because his wordview is hate filled. As the OP said, he produces more hate than the people he blames. His headlines website is a daily orgy of the most bitter, the most disgusting and paranoid this world has to offer.

If he doesnt chill out a bit his personal issues are going to worsen.

As for his books, I would trash all of them except for "Love is all there is", which is a really unique and fun book to read.

I do like Icke and I do think he has been very strong in overcoming the ridicule that tainted his career for many years... I also believe he believes what he talks and writes about...

The reptillain thing: I don't think he ever meant they were literally reptiles, from what I've read I think he means they are entities that have lower vibrations (that yearn power via bloodshed and materialism and posession)... it's a good metaphor for the corrupt and powerful that rule the NWO.

The son of god thing.... We are all essentially beings that have transcended from the same matter (the life giving energy of the stars)... I don't think he ever referred to himself as the son of god as in Jesus.

As for the negativity on his website, I have to agree with the OP. It would be nice to hear some positive news for once as I can't help but think David Icke has turned a little paranoid in his later career and is therefore slightly hypocritical when he says things like 'all there should be is unconditional love', as giving out bad news can cause paranoia and anxiety.

So, if you're reading this David... Never give up, but lighten up slightly and people might take you more to heart.

Peace

reply to post by unicorn 123

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Sorry for such a remedial reply, I lost track of this thread. I envy you, the personal research you've done. I would love to see that mural. I still view this subject with one squinty eye, but I must say that I agree with your line of thinking. It certainly starts to look one way but I still think more information is needed to completely comprehend this mystery.

Well, I've read a couple of Icke's books.

I have to say I am not a fan of his theory, though kudos to him for making a go of it. He's done well out of it and I think his belief in it is fairly sincere. Either that, or conspiracy theorism pays better than I thought and he has no shame (in which case, someone sign me up. No, seriously, I'll sell out now).

I don't find his theory convincing. I mean, that's what it comes down to. Some of the science and scholarship is rather shakey, especially anything involving Setchin. I find it very hard to believe such a world encompassing conspiracy could exist, as well. How everything of importance, no matter how long ago, or how recent, ties into it. It suggests he's stuck on his theory as being The One True Theory and from now on will interpret everything according to those beliefs.

In my opinion, a good CTer should be skeptical, especially of their own theories. If he can get evidence of his theory, of shapeshifting reptilians, then fantastic. I'll publically renounce my position and defer to aspects of his theory. But when his evidence is circumstansial, based around uncorroborated eye witness testimony and ancient myths, it kind of detracts from his credibility.

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Or he's actually a reptilian, spouting his crap about them in a ridiculous manner to make us look the other way.

Hidden in plain sight!

So whats up with Stewart Swerdlow backing up most of what Icke is saying about the reptilians ? Swerdlow claims to be from Montauk and that the Reptilians had this planet first and their livestock were the Dinosaurs, the humans come here killed the Dino's off and bred our Mammals here as our stock.

I don't believe this story but it has piqued my interest into why so many people do.

I agree, he must have spent a lot of times to find about the bloodlines,ILLUMINATI From the Babylone