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Venezuela disowns 'provocative' earthquake aid

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posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 01:16 PM
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Venezuela disowns 'provocative' earthquake aid


www.guardian.co.uk

The cans of tuna, with labels lauding Mr Chávez and condemning Peruvian authorities as "slow, inefficient and heartless", were distributed to survivors of a quake which destroyed several towns and killed more than 500 people last week.

Peru's president, Alan García, expressed dismay. "One has to ask who is behind this. This is not the moment to take advantage of the circumstances to make electoral propaganda." Mr García, who has been under fire for delays in getting food, blankets and other aidto stricken areas, has a tetchy relationship with the Venezuelan leader.
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posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 01:16 PM
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Well, well, well...

The evil socialists strike again! Yet again they strike over the poor and those people who really need urgent help - like the people of Peru, which were struck by an awful earthquake - and abuse their situation for their sinister play of international politics.

Or perhaps it is just another case of a country helping another country, when they are in need. You know - it is not really true HELP if you have to ask about it. And Castro did not wait for them to ask for help, but acted urgently and gave them help. Why can't sometimes help be just that, what it is?

Mister Chavez:


But Venezuela issued a forceful denial of any links to the polemical aid and said it might be an attempt to smear Mr Chávez as a cynical opportunist. "This is a damaging manipulation, a vile manipulation because Venezuela has brought humanitarian aid, not party politics," the country's ambassador, José Armando Laguna, told CPN Radio in Lima. "If they want, they can go and open all the bags that [Venezuela] brought and verify there is no political propaganda."

Some people would rather die then take help from a Socialist.

Where is this world going to?

www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 01:45 PM
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WOw....yeah...wow, wow...

Chavez sent food with writting saying Chavez is better than the Peruvian authorities....wonder why?....




[edit on 23-8-2007 by Muaddib]



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 02:07 PM
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No - Chavez is just saying, that the local president - Mr García, who has been under fire for delays in getting food, blankets and other aidto stricken areas - is not doing all he can. And in the meantime, he is sending some HELP - you know what that is, right? Venezuela has sent two military aircraft with 25 tonnes of food to them, and this is the thanks they get? Well if I think again, the people of Peru (who, as it looks like, deserve such a president) should never open those cans of tuna and starve to death. At least they would not be supporting the evil Bolivarian Revolution - because they would be DEAD.



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 02:09 PM
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This is funny but also very dangerous what Chavez is trying to do, Chavez wants the poor in other countries in South America to become aware of what their governments are doing.

This can only bring one result, a major uprising by the oppress masses of many of the more less fortunate countries in the area.

One of the things I had said is that US has forgotten about South America in the Pursue of the middle eastern agendas.

This has open the door to no only influences by China but also by nations like Venezuela that has been able to shake up North American influences.

Will this be a good thing? or just the pushing of a revolution.



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 02:10 PM
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Venezuela sent propaganda, and is claiming he is better than the PEruvian authorities...

BTW the poor people of Peru don't read "international news" and much less right after a mayor earthquake, which means they only believe whatever they read which was written in those cans to put Chavez as a "savior".... Yeah Chavez did this out of his kind heart....



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 02:16 PM
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The POOR PEOPLE would really like some FOOD - and if Chavez is sending FREE FOOD to those people, why should that be a political move? In your eyes, anything Chavez does looks evil - even when he is helping the countries, which are in South America - you know that part of America where also Venezuela is. That means good neighbours. I guess cans of tune have written EVIL SOCIALISM all over them right? Right.



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 02:32 PM
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All I can say is that dude has one heck of a PR firm.
In America they would have put marketing symbols for nike,nascar racing or coca cola,whatever on them. An opportunity is an opportunity.
Anyone remember Hurricane Katrina?

Could there be an uprising from an oppressed nation becoming aware of whats really going on??
Wel, it hasn't happened in the USA ..
Me, I'd eat the tuna fish, read it and recycle the can.
A free meals a free meal, and when you're starving it doesn't matter where it came from or how it's dressed up.



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 02:59 PM
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Why is it a "political move"?....

Maybe because those tuna cans had written "Chavez is better as well as the oponent that Chavez backed in Peru than the current Peruvian government"?....

BTW, my family and several people in South FLorida are sending food, clothes, and other necessities yet none of them write their names or makes a "political move"..... You don't hear these people being glorified by the media either....

Those are the people really giving out to the poor people in Peru WITHOUT ASKING FOR ANYTHING.... There are millions of such people around the world... Chavez is just using a disaster to further his agenda...

[edit on 23-8-2007 by Muaddib]



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 04:52 PM
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So I see you are yet another individual, who would rather die of hunger, then eat cans of tuna, send by Mister Chavez. Too much pride you have. How unfortunate for you.



posted on Aug, 23 2007 @ 06:37 PM
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marg6043- If it helps ferment an uprising by the people good it's about bloddy time for the people of South America

I was in Peru for a while sumtime back. During their election they had a choice between Garcia( a man who ruled over hyperinflation and a huge worsening in the terrorist attacks from the shining path guerrials) Or Ollanta Humala who was a stringent Nationalist with ties to attempted coups on former governments, and a family who advocated the killings of homosexuals.

What a choice!!?? It was pretty close but they decided to give Garcia another chance instead of going for an extreme soloution, and he seems to have failed a great number of people during this crisis again. Surely Chavez was only pointing out to the people of Peru what they already knew.

I for one am just glad this food got through.



posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 02:21 AM
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Chavez, that's the guy who spends every waking moment preparing for some imaginary war he's convinced he'll have with George Bush right?

What a really weird story, first off I think it's a little odd to begin with that political messages are put on food labels in some parts of the world.

So Chavez sends aid that has political propaganda all over it, now he is saying he's been framed and isn't really responsible for this; At least that's what it sounds like to me. It's his government that sent the food right, so if this actually happened unbeknowest to him then apparently the security in his government is pretty crappy.

So whether he did or didn't do this on purpose, either way it makes him look really, really bad. What an embarassment. If he can't even organize sending aid somewhere without it being bungled and all messed up like this, then how can he even be taken seriously as this big bad rough & tough leader that nobody better mess with, like he wants people to think.

The White House must be laughing their heads off about this behind closed doors. HoneyNut Chavez-O's anyone?



posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 04:37 AM
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fweshcawfee- Hardly preparing for an imaginary war, when it's pretty clear the U.S helped fund and instigate the attempted coup on Chavez in 2002 observer.guardian.co.uk...
Have a read of that.

I gurantee something else is being planned, luckily the people of Venezula resisted this attempetd coup and swept Chavez back to power. Jeex the U.S is supremly ignorant in it's power.



posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 04:49 AM
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But isn't it kind of imaginary? I mean, the U.S. doesn't seem to really care about Chavez or his country as far as I can tell, there are a lot bigger fish to worry about than him.

I'm anything but a political expert but just from the news report and stuff I've seen, it looks like Chavez just kinda went off the deep end and started convincing himself the U.S. might invade him so he buys up all the military stuff he can gets his hands on, etc.

The U.S. might be observing him since he acts so crazy but I don't think the U.S. has any real interest in him other than just to watch him. He brings a lot of negative attention to himself.

That's how it seems to me anyway but I'm not saying I'm right, it's just an opinion from the things I see.



posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 05:37 AM
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You are wrong here - once Venezuela was in the hands of puppet government, which allowed all the oil to be owned by private companies, which were all in business with the U.S. oil corporations. Which basicly ment, that the oil from Venezuela was not owned by the people of Venezuela - but by the elite minority, who got filthy rich and left 80% of the population on the verge of starvation. But then Chavez became president and nationalized their oil and threw the private companies out of the game of oil. And Venezuela does have ALOT of oil - which means, that Washington finds this situation very annoying. Kind of like when Saddam nationalized oil in Iraq and then started to sell it in Petro-Euros.



posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by Muaddib
WOw....yeah...wow, wow...

Chavez sent food with writting saying Chavez is better than the Peruvian authorities....wonder why?....




[edit on 23-8-2007 by Muaddib]
Its useless. My friends here see communist aide as very humanitarian and Chavez is the best!
Please explain to them- i'm speechless. These countries live under terrible oppression yet people here think this leader is awesome
and that communism is kool.
If only they knew the suffering that comes with such oppresion.

Like i said on the other thread (for which i was called ignorant
) Chavez is taking delight to be in a position of "helping" and he is a devil in disguise.

Let me put it this way, I'd rather be here with BUSH and his tyranny than under Fidel's best friend's dictatorship. That should tell you how strongly i feel about this beast.

And please, the rest of you, spare me the "you're ignorant" comments, ok?

Argggggh.


Muaddib, tell them just how ignorant and wrong i am, please. I've had it!



posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 05:53 AM
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You know - sometimes cigar is just a cigar...

And I do not mean CUBAN...




posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
reply to post by dgtempe
 

You know - sometimes cigar is just a cigar...

And I do not mean CUBAN...

Please translate into plain English so that i can understand. I dont ever argue with you, but i dont think you're seeing the full picture here. If you mean i dont know what i'm saying, i may not be a good writer or be able to quite express myself as well as others, but i'm here to tell you this man is nothing but evil and he's doing it because there's SOMETHING IN IT FOR HIM.
P.R., deceipt, whatever you want to call it.

If some of you think he's so wonderful, i understand you can drive to his country via highway 666.
'
Go for it!!!!!!



posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by Muaddib
Why is it a "political move"?....

Maybe because those tuna cans had written "Chavez is better as well as the oponent that Chavez backed in Peru than the current Peruvian government"?....

BTW, my family and several people in South FLorida are sending food, clothes, and other necessities yet none of them write their names or makes a "political move"..... You don't hear these people being glorified by the media either....

Those are the people really giving out to the poor people in Peru WITHOUT ASKING FOR ANYTHING.... There are millions of such people around the world... Chavez is just using a disaster to further his agenda...

[edit on 23-8-2007 by Muaddib]

Couldent have said it better, anyone who thinks this guy isent doing that needs to look back on all his actions. Hes trying to take over these nations by taking advantage of the poor and their situations so that they convert or become more friendly to to his brand of socialism called "Chavezism".

Mark my words, Chavez is going to be the next Hitler wannabe. The guy is a dictator of the highest order. All of his "idols" are other dictators. Google Guardia Nacional de Venezuela and see how he crushes all opposition protests. The Guardia Nacional is his version of the SS. The police cars in Venezuela are adorned with his picture and quotes from him. The guy took part in a military coup in the late 1990s (yea hes real democratic). The amount of bs im reading on this thread is amazing. Are you guys really this naive and or brainwashed?

www.scamecanica.com...
Look at that Caracas Metropolitan Police truck ... is that something you would find from a democratically elected leader or a dictator?

[edit on 24-8-2007 by ChrisF231]



posted on Aug, 24 2007 @ 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
You are wrong here


Hmmm ok. Well then I guess there's nothing else I can say then.

Thanks.



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