reply to post by agent violet
I'm sorry you think my post was uncivil. The worst thing I accused you of was 'behaving in a silly manner', which I'm sure you'll agree is rather
ridicule your suggestion -- and robustly at that -- because, frankly, it is
ridiculous. Never mind a shred of evidence, do you
have so much as a hint of a clue that this is happening -- that governments can and do manipulate our dreams by remote control for some occult purpose
of their own? Of course you don't. Can such a thing even happen? Of course it can't. And your first post, with its chemtrails and whatnot, was a
right old mess of vernacular superstition and urban legends.
Why did I attack your post? I did it because, like a growing number of rationalists, I fear that the future of humanity -- of all of us and our
children's children's children -- is seriously, perhaps fatally threatened by the resurgence of superstition, moral relativism and anti-intellectual
obscurantism we see everywhere around us. Rationalism, science and technology have made the world we live in; we have them to thank for our long
lives, healthy bodies and the little control we have over nature. Yet the very people who benefit most from these things -- well-off citizens of the
rich world -- are often the first to denigrate them, to devalue science, impugn the motives of scientists and seek explanation for the phenomena of
the world, not where it is to be found, in reason and science, but in all kinds of superstition and pseudoscientific twaddle. Some of these
'explanations' and theories would make a cat laugh -- and, I'm sorry to say, the idea of governments manipulating citizens' dreams is one of
This is a private forum, but the definition of 'private' here is pretty broad. Effectively, when you post an opinion on ATS, you're posting it in
public. And ideas expressed in public are fair game. I'm not one of the board staff -- as you can plainly see -- but I am pretty sure that this is
why ATS, though it is pretty strictly ruled and regulated for an Internet message board and comes down hard on people who make personal attacks,
nevertheless permits the ideas
posted to meet with whatever reception individual members see fit to give them.
All clear, then? I hope so. I have nothing against you personally -- you seem, from your posts, a decent sort of person -- but this idea of yours is
By the way, I first came across the idea of a ruler manipulating his subjects dreams in Robert Silverberg's doorstop of a picaresque novel, Lord
, which came out about twenty-five years ago. If you haven't read it, and you aren't automatically put off by the words
'science' and 'fiction', especially when uttered in conjunction, you'll love it. Go read.
[edit on 23-8-2007 by Astyanax]