Originally posted by Souljah
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So what is your problem dude? Why you fighting so hard to paint this gesture of Chavez as an action of pure Evil?

What is my problem? my problem is that some people are fighting hard to represent Communist dictators as good people around here, and since I have experienced some of the horrors of Communism i will fight against anyone trying to claim "Communist dictators are good people"...

Originally posted by Souljah
And if you think that Democracy is a form of government, where people choose their leaders, then you are very wrong. Democracy is also a Dictatorship - only with elections. And if you think, that you can make a change by voting for your candidate, then you are wrong also. It is just the another head of the same dragon.

Oh i know you are a Communist, even though in the past you have claimed you are not in these same forums....and you have been working very hard to claim that even the atrrocities committed by Communist regimes were done by the U.S....

The form of government in U.S. is better than any Communist country has ever been, and the fact is that people in Communist countries have been dying by the hundreds of thousands to leave such Communist regimes and trying to reach places like the United States...so your claims are easily debunked by the facts....

[edit on 23-8-2007 by Muaddib]

Originally posted by Muaddib
my problem is that some people are fighting hard to represent Communist dictators as good people around here,

You know What Muaddib I understand your point of view more than you think, because I know that you were one of the Lucky one that was able to get out of Cuba when Castro took over, and nobody can deny what Castro has done to Cuba.

But remember that Chavez has been portrayed and bashed for socialist and dictator so any good that he may have will never be taken into consideration.

Now When you said that people around here fight hard to represent Communist dictators as good people around here let me remind you that our own government does that quite often as long as it serve corporate American and our government agendas.

Remember our nation sleeps with communist countries, feudal monarchy and support dictatorships, everyday, we borrow their money, we sell them weapons and we even trust their goods to feed and serve the population of our nation.

[edit on 23-8-2007 by marg6043]

Riiight, and those 27,000 children dying everyday will be solved once there is Global Communism...the same economic system that has killed more people than all mayor wars put together...and that's without mentioning the people who were imprisoned....

I guess some people do miss a system that forced 7 different nations together, otherwise they would be imprisoned or killed....

I don't know why you keep trying to deny it... Between what you have written in your avatar, and constantly defending Communism and claiming the U.S./CIA did what Communists regimes did, everyone by now should know that you are a Communist...

Oh, i get it now, Communists are claiming they have a new system that is better than the old one. It is the same as Chavez "Socialism/Communism of the 21st Century"....

Then you have to read the fine print where he mentions Marx, and Lenin.... Although i don't know why he at times mentions Lenin since he is more in tune with "Trosky's Permanet Revolution"... He recommends Venezuelans and all people to read Trotsky permanent revolution...

The difference between Trotsky and Lenin was that Lenin wanted only to nationalize Communism, Trotsky wanted to export it to the world....make it a Global revolution....

Chavez constant ditriabe about exporting the revolution around the world and making it permanent etc sure goes along with Trotsky's writings....

I guess some people do miss the old days when only a few, those who worked for the Communist regimes" had everything they wanted or needed while the rest of the population were opressed and had almost nothing.... "The good old days" huh souljah?



[edit on 23-8-2007 by Muaddib]

Yeah souljah, i guess Chavez sending cans of food with print in it saying "Chavez is better than the Peruvian authorities" have nothing to do with the fact that Chavez is in fact trying to export his revolution around the world...and using any means to do it...even if it means taking advantage of catastrophes in poor countries......

You just proved my point...thanks....

[edit on 23-8-2007 by Muaddib]

Originally posted by paul76
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After viewing this movie, I came to the conclusion the Western media is unfairly targeting VENEZUELA, compare it to how the media is portraying Iran at the moment, It's all to do with the rich elite and the oil. You won't be disappointed by this film, I give it 9/10.

Oh riiight...after watching a film that was edited by westerners who do not show the speeches of Chavez, you should actually hear what Chavez himself has to say and then make your own conclusion instead of relying in a "rigged film by certain westerners"....

Originally posted by Muaddib

Originally posted by paul76
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After viewing this movie, I came to the conclusion the Western media is unfairly targeting VENEZUELA, compare it to how the media is portraying Iran at the moment, It's all to do with the rich elite and the oil. You won't be disappointed by this film, I give it 9/10.

Oh riiight...after watching a film that was edited by westerners who do not show the speeches of Chavez, you should actually hear what Chavez himself has to say and then make your own conclusion instead of relying in a "rigged film by certain westerners"....

I've listened to what Chavez has to say, and disregard what the Western media has to say, I would believe what comes out of Chavez mouth to be more reliable than the media.

Originally posted by Souljah
But I really do not understand the Eskimos. Aren't they cold and would like some free oil, to warm their igloos up? Weird...

I know this is off topic but...........

You do realize how insensitive and potentially racist this remark is? Right? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I don't think you thought before you spoke.

Even though I'm not a Native Alaskan they have my utmost respect for what they have accomplished in Alaska. Native Corporations here are highly successful and motivated enterprises. Native Alaskans have no need of handouts. The welfare mentality is not part of their culture. That is one of the reasons I love living here. I'd had my fill of the give me, give me, give me crowd. Chavez offering them an unneeded handout was a slap in the face. People like Chavez do not understand people who's freedom is not for sale. I'm sure their are plenty of people he can buy elsewhere.

FYI -
We get a thing called the "Permanent Fund Dividend" annually. It can range from a few hundred to a couple of thousand. We are litterally Stock Holders in the State of Alaska. It costs more to live here so that is not a reason to move here. We can read and write and have evolved beyond cave drawings and hunting with spears We hope to someday have indoor plumbing. We are getting a little tired of heating our "Igloo's" with Moose Droppings though. I'm actually thinking of bathing twice a month from now on.