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One way to verify moon landing...why wont this work?




Topic started on 16-1-2004 @ 08:06 AM by dugzdanglindiner


I am a new member and forgive me if this topic has already been brought up.
Supposedly a 4-wheel drive vehicle was left on the moon during our "adventure", and it would be extremely
important to know exactly how the materials used to construct it has held up over the last few decades.
Is it possible to view this craft from a high powered
telescope here on earth...or use the hubble space telescope to analyze this craft up-close?
When I saw the images of it driving around on the moon...it sure as H_LL was not on "the dark side".
Please...idiots do not reply.



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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 08:22 AM by SkepticOverlord


Even better: www.lpi.usra.edu... "The Laser Ranging Retroreflector experiment was deployed on Apollo 11, 14, and 15. It consists of a series of corner-cube reflectors, which are a special type of mirror with the property of always reflecting an incoming light beam back in the direction it came from. A similar device was also included on the Soviet Union's Lunakhod 2 spacecraft. These reflectors can be illuminated by laser beams aimed through large telescopes on Earth. The reflected laser beam is also observed with the telescope, providing a measurement of the round-trip distance between Earth and the Moon. This is the only Apollo experiment that is still returning data from the Moon. Many of these measurements have been made by McDonald Observatory in Texas. From 1969 to 1985, they were made on a part-time basis using the McDonald Observatory 107-inch telescope. Since 1985, these observations have been made using a dedicated 30-inch telescope. Additional measurements have been made by observatories in Hawaii, California, France, Australia, and Germany." Apollo 11 left behind this device, which was used regularly up to 1985, and occasionally today. It required two-way communications with the astronauts on the moon to set-up, align, test, and lock-down.



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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 09:06 AM by HowardRoark


Scepticoverlord, Hey I forgot about that. If I remember right the reflector consisted of an array of prisms. One of the unique properties of this configuration of prisms, is that it reflects light back in the same direction that it came from, even if the reflector shifted or moved.



Originally posted by dugzdanglindiner
it sure as H_LL was not on "the dark side".
Please...idiots do not reply.


Well I’ll try not to sound like an idiot here, but there really is no such thing as the “dark side” (Pink Floyd notwithstanding) There is a “far side” that never faces the Earth. I think this is what you are thinking of. All sides of the moon are sunlit at some point in the lunar day. It is just that the lunar day is one month long. And As far as I can remember, all of the lunar missions were conducted on the near side.



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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 09:21 AM by TheBandit795


Howard, are you sure about that??? Because I think that at least the Apollo 11 moon landing was on the far side...

Btw... Only about 55% of the moon is visible from the earth.

[Edited on 16-1-2004 by TheBandit795]



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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 09:36 AM by HowardRoark





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reply posted on 16-1-2004 @ 09:36 AM by Gazrok


Go to NASA and type in "moon landing hoax" in the search..that should answer most questions, or on badastronomy.com.....

Otherwise, see the Overlord's answer



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reply posted on 21-1-2004 @ 05:28 PM by cardsharp


IF there is a reflector on themoon.
shouldn't we be able to see the moon sparkle like a becon
every once and a while?



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reply posted on 21-1-2004 @ 05:36 PM by Kriskaos


for it to sparkle it needs a laser pointed at it and it would have to be pretty big or have a higher lumenesece then the moon for it to be noticeable.



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reply posted on 21-1-2004 @ 05:43 PM by Viendin


Not unless we're shining the light at it in the first place.


And another thing, everyone always says that the flag should not have been standing or rippling because of the lack of wind. (by standing I mean extended, as opposed to hanging down)

A look at a pic from one of the apollo missions will show you that the flag has 2 poles in it, in an upside down L shape, so the flag would be held extended by the second pole. The reason for the ripples is because the gravity isn't great enough to pull the flag flat, it is falling flat, but the pic was taken before the few hours of undisturbedness had taken place for the flag to perfectly flatten. Oh, yea, and you can see the flag(s) if I'm not mistaken.



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