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why must Palestine renounce violence when Israel refuses to?
Originally posted by grover
which will lead to what should have been there in the first place; a joint Jewish/Palestinian state.
Originally posted by grover
If you really want to get literal about it, no nation does... it has to impose its right to exist.
...what should have been there in the first place; a joint Jewish/Palestinian state.
Originally posted by junglejake
An analogy to explain, if you will. You own a house, and all the neighborhood recognizes that you own that house except a homeless guy across the street. He says the house is his. This homeless man did the same thing with two other neighbors you're not on good terms with, and they violently removed the homeless guy from their homes
And then people start to ask, why should this homeless man stop raping your daughter if you refuse to not beat the crap out of him.
Originally posted by junglejake
Given the elections and Hamas' open intentions for the destruction of Israel and the...we'll say "problems" Christian churches in the area are encountering, I'm going to have to say your definition of large and mine differ greatly.
Originally posted by Jaruseleh
Why does Palestine have such a hard time recognizing Israel? What is the whole argument between Israel and Palestine about? Is Palestine even a country? I don't remember ever seeing it on a map...forgive me if these questions seem ignorant, I just never really understood the whole Palestine/Israel deal....
Originally posted by madnessinmysoulJust wondering, Astyanax... where in the UN charter does it state that nations must recognize each other's RIGHT TO EXIST?
The "right to exist" is not a normal term used in international relations... other than in the case of Israel, no other state's existence has been questioned in quite the same way.
Originally posted by grover
In the long run Israel really does not have the right to exist, and if you really want to get literal about it, no nation does.... (they are after all artificial constructs).... it has to impose its right to exist.... especially considering that it was imposed on already long occupied lands by, after 2,000 years were non-natives.
Originally posted by junglejake
An analogy to explain, if you will. You own a house, and all the neighborhood recognizes that you own that house except a homeless guy across the street. He says the house is his.
Originally posted by The Walking Fox
However, all three states in question have defined borders. They just argue over who's got the right map. Israel has no defined border.
Myself, I don't really get the "The Jews were there first" arguments... when the sole source of this claim is a book that describes the Israelite tribe's genocidal purge of the people who were already living in Canaan...