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Originally posted by eyewitness86
The average American is far less informed and educated than most Europeans, and most of us Americans have no idea about human rights campaigns . We execute the innocent and imprrison the mentally ill. There have been over 200 INNOCENT people released from prisons and DEATH ROWS across this nation because DNA proved their innocence.
Europe is way ahead of us in most every way; they have been civilized and cultured since before we ever had a foot set on this continent. We are the young bucks playing fast and loose with peoples lives and maybe someday we will grow up and see that we have a lot to learn from our Euro friends about what is best LONG TERM. We are short term thinkers here and we need to be long term..simple.
Originally posted by Boondock78
seems like we have lotsa bloodthirsty people round here.
specially you big, bad texans...
Originally posted by infinite
Originally posted by Kacen
but the European government is becoming too weak and pansy-ish.
There is no such thing as a "European government".
The European Commission is not a government.
Originally posted by infinite
Originally posted by Kacen
Err, well to be fair we wouldn't have bases in Europe if the EU didn't let us and agree to it.
Sadly,
these bases were negotiated by the sovereign nations before the European Union or the EC was created.
The lease is agreed by the governments, nothing to do with the European Union.
There is no common defence policy in the EU.
Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
Personally I disagree with any type of corporal or capitol punishment.
I think it is inappropriate for the EU to suggest any individual state or territory of the US to do anything. Now if they want to suggest to the US government that is another matter. I dont think the State of Hesse within Germany would take to kindly to the US government suggesting anything to them either for example.
Originally posted by infinite
Originally posted by Souljah
I think penalty of 100 years in prison is enough for every criminal to start thinking about his evil deeds he did in the past and in the end - he will eventually die in prison and never ever taste freedom again. Isn't that already a maximum penalty?
And does the State want to become like the criminal? do we want to lower ourselves to their world by taking life?
They've over stepped the mark, crossed the line and we do not support their actions.
An innocent man in prison can be freed, if he is not guilty, if you are executed then you can't.
That's the problem with the death penalty.
[edit on 22-8-2007 by infinite]
Originally posted by MrMicrophone
You want to mollycoddle murders, be my guest but don't call people that believe the death penalty is a deterrent and justified bloodthirsty
^^^^i never said i want to mollycoddle anyone and i didn't call people that believe in it as a deterant bloodthirsty...i call the people bloodthirsty that type out their posts in a bragging way about how tough texas is and how they'd have a party at 500. do you think that way? if so, you're blood thirsty, IMO...abslutely...
does the death penalty really deter?
...let's reserve that term for the killers, ok.
^^^no, it's not ok....i shal use the term for whoever i feel in my mind is deserving of the term....
Texas are not blood thirsty, we just know when it's time to "get a rope".
^^^i call it blood thirsty...you guys get a 'lot of ropes'
I guess you think shooting someone in defense of yourself, your family or some innocent is murder too?
^^^^did i say that? i sure don't recall. i would call that justifiable homicide. i have numerous guns in my home for just such an occasion...
Ever been the victim of murder?
^^^of course not...what does this question mean? when i was 7 my house was broken into and my parents were almost killed. i saw most of it...hell of an experience....if someone breaks into my home to try to harm myself or my wife, i will put them down....i fail to see what this has to do with being pro death penalty though...
Texas...were common sense is still found in abundance....
Originally posted by Xfile
If europe wants the our death penalty inmates your more than welcome to them.I for one dont think wasting my taxpayer money is a deserving punishment to cloth and feed these animals.
Originally posted by wings_of_an_eagle
It costs 1.2 million dollars a year to keep an inmate alive in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice prisons. It costs 2 thousand dollars for an inmate to be executed. WEIGH THE PRICE and tell the EU to stay out of my state
Originally posted by Kacen
Errr, wow. I think you greatly misread his post.
He was speaking against the death penalty.
Regardless, once again, my point still stands.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
I don't see any reason why the EU can't express its views on this to Texas, but I also think it's highly unlikely anyone in Texas is going to care what they say.
Originally posted by nickh
if the EU actually wanted Texas to amend their laws, they would/could probably do it in more serious ways
Originally posted by nickh
the thing is, if the EU actually wanted Texas to amend their laws, they would/could probably do it in more serious ways