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First of all, I apologise if anything like this has been posted before.
(I did perform a keyword search, but nothing really relevant came up.)

I would like to know whether anyone has experienced the sensation of observing time - our "own" time, the one that each one is living right now (or so it appears) - from a more or less distant future.
In other words: the distinct sensation that your NOW is actually a memory from long ago.

I have, which is (rather obviously) the reason why I am asking.

Since nobody here knows me, I should explain that I have no known "conditions", either mental or physical (but that might be because I avoid all kind of physicians like the plague...), nor am I an alcohol or drug abuser.

However, the first time I became clearly aware of this perception I was under the influence of a certain substance - a perfectly ordinary, OTC substance that is on sale even in the holier-than-thou EU (and that's saying a lot!).
In bed, I suddenly had the feeling that all I was experiencing - this time, MY time - was actually a memory, or rather, a gaze, from an immensely remote FUTURE.
(The most astounding thing was the fleeting idea - it was fleeting because I wouldn't let it linger - it was too shocking - that I was looking back from 15 000 years from "now". I don't know why, don't ask me. Besides, the numerical part is irrelevant to the question itself.)

As I said, the first time I became aware of such a sensation I was under a (mild) "influence". But I suspect it only blew open a "channel" that was there before; and from that first awareness I have been experiencing the same sensation (albeit less acutely) quite often, without any chemical help. I can, in fact, recall it at will; and the feeling is no less "real" than the feeling of the chair on which I am sitting right now.
(Even more so, actually. There is an eerie mental clarity to it that could only be compared to the sudden sobering effect that a mildly intoxicated person, feeling fuzzy, would feel when exposed to the bitterly cold air of a crystal clear night.)

I included this description only to present the phenomenon as clearly as possible; I hope it doesn't have the opposite effect.







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Hello Vanitas,

I don't think it's weird or that you lost your mind. I'm a medium and in my eyes these kind of experiences are quite normal, although not everybody will be sensitive to it.

The way I see it our spirit is not bound by place or time. It can be at a lot of places and times all at once. I know this sounds confusing but if you dive a little into the spiritual world you'll see these things are widely known or believed (just which ever one you choose...lol)

Now I have no evidence for this, this is purely speaking from my own experience. If I were to be a skeptic I'd probably ask you if you had an allergic reaction to what you where taking or if you ever smoked herbs (you know what I mean just don't want to upset any posters).

Anyway I hope this helps you out.

Juliet

Well have a good night for tonight and I look forward too to discuss this further. And don't worry about your english... I'm dutch so if you make a mistake I won't even notice it

I was saying before on another thread from a million years ago that our time could be an experiment from another universe or phase in time, without our exact linear time. If aliens were in fact from the future or the past and actually just studying us from their universe or place in time. We could then be an injected conscienceness into this world or universe for the purposes of examining what to them is an anomily, and to us our reality. We could be a fluke of the universe with our linear time and the such.... What if they are us and we are just volenteers for an experiment, willing or unwilling? We could also be an off shoot from their place of origin living out of the loop, recycling our conscienceness as the matter here is cycling through its many changes. We might be the state of the art , universe/ time terraforming technology. Inject life into a paradox artificially created and then manipulate it as well as the matter within to combine with your space time, making something from nothing. far fetched I'm sure. creation! just my thoughts

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Am I to understand that nobody who has read this so far ever had a similar experience...?

Obviously, this is not a reproach. How could it be?
I just find it puzzling...
(Which is why I posted in the first place.)

Anyway, I have many more questions (and answers, too ).
But more on that some other time...



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With so many time-concerned citizens around, I thought I'd bump this ancient thread, as a bait.

Seriously: I simply can't believe I am the only one who's ever had such an experience.

Dear Vanitas, Yes, I experience the sense that you sense, though I never used any substances, not even legal substances. I have let myself fall into the experience, to know what is on the other side. This historical novel of 20-21'st earth is collapsing, and we will be returned to our correct place and time.

i cant say as i get the same feelings as yourself but i do at times get the sudden feeling that this has all happened already, not a feeling that can be brought on as you describe, and not a de javu type experiance either, just asudden feeling of this has all happened already and on a couple of occasions iv thought to myself what is gonna happen next, silly things like, my dads gonna phone in a minute or the doorbells gonna go, and its happened, unlike yourself friend i always put it down to having dabbled in chemicals in my younger days that i still believe opened parts of the mind that are usually closed.

on a side note i belive de javu type experiances are caused by timetravel, which can only be done one way, backwards as the future aint happened yet we cant go there, but the past has so we can go that way, and its our consiousness that travels not the physical, so when we travel back our consiousness moves into our own body so no paradox of two of us being here. . the de javu happens when someone comes back and changes very small insignificant things that cause a small rippling effect, with the rest of us suddenly feeling like we've just done whatever we were doing twice.

Then there is also the question.

Can one change ones past.

This conflicted with every single person dying equals erm.... chaos of some unkown magnitude and maybe that lead to our deaths!

I can see how many people might go insane debating what is and what is not.

On a serious note this just sprang into my mind from the OP's post but it could be...

Originally posted by XXXN3O
Then there is also the question.

Can one change one's past

Indeed there is.
Which is why I, unsurprisingly, remembered this old thread while I was thinking about the thread on - "retrocausality".

I'll be back, as soon as I can.
Because if I start articulating my thoughts and "insights" regarding your question in this particular post, another night will have been consumed before I even know what hit me...





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Strange you speak of dreams but im not wanting to sound insane as it seems you get deemed a crazyhorse mentioning dreams on ats these days.

Maybe you can enlighten me?

Thanks for the flag