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reply posted on 9-11-2007 @ 10:22 AM by crgintx


The patrols that use TI are handicapping themselves with delicate equipment. TI can detect you but it's doesn't make the user invincible or undetectable. There's absolutely no way that even with all the TI and satellite detections systems in the world that there's enough troops and equipment to secure even an area the size of Iraq much less the wilderness areas around the world. I know a US trained guerilla from a best unnamed conflict. He told me that the sounds and smells of regular troops allowed his particular cell to avoid detection quite easily. TI is only as good as its operator and their training. Those NWO patrols will have to go into areas where they're every bit as exposed to those resistors as the resistors are to them. Non explosive booby traps are simple to make and feared by even the best trained special forces much less regular infantry.



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reply posted on 9-11-2007 @ 10:38 AM by RobertRogers


This is very interesting and I do not see an easy solution. If you can frequent areas where people are normally, busy trails and roads, then thermal imaging will be next to useless in and of itself.



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reply posted on 9-11-2007 @ 03:35 PM by PaddyInf


There's the crunch of it. No piece of equipment is useful in isolation, and all pieces of kit rely on a user.

As has been mentioned, there isn't enough TI kit let alone users to cover everywhere. That's why it is used in conjuncction with skilled operators, recent int, correct placement etc. It is only one piece of the observation network.



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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 08:57 PM by Anonymous ATS


I heard mylar works well but you would have to sew a suit together,not real sure on what your doing though.but it might work for you. it comes in big sheets.hope it helps.



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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 04:28 AM by ThreeDeuce


What is with people dredging up ancient threads?

But anyways, there are several new technologies that people use in attics to save heating/cooling costs.

One is a foil that gets put under your rafters, the other is a paint, both stop the transfer of heat pretty well.

You could put one of these inside of your shelter, and it should work well.
I believe that "growers" use foil similar to this, and it stops the TI from seeing their grow operation.



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reply posted on 14-8-2008 @ 07:06 PM by WatchRider



Originally posted by citizen smith
Has anyone had any first-hand experience of using modern T.I. equipment whilst serving in law-enforcement/military?

I'm wondering just how sensitive the imagers are in terms of temperature gradients. Could they detect the heat-signature left by human footsteps (assuming movement at a walking pace) against the background thermal radiation?






My bro uses that on operations.
I've tried persuading him to wangle a thermal imager he attaches to his sights for me to play with but no dice. THose things are sewn up tight into the army stores network. They are 100% accountable and the searches the RMPs do nowadays to check soldiers returning from Operations are very very thorough.



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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 09:50 AM by ImaginaryReality1984


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Quite simply perspex will compltely block your heat signature. They even tried it on an episode of myth busters to fool a passise IR sensor. So basically sitting in a greenhouse will keep you safe. The next best thing is just putting a lot of material between yourself and the TI system. A tree is thick enough to hide your signature, in the end it's about line of sight.



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reply posted on 1-10-2008 @ 01:06 PM by osirus82


so i read all theses thoghts and myths and found a couple usefull bits o knowledge, but i did not see any reference to makeing the heat signature of a person higher than normal, i would like to think that if you have a suit that could change temps sorta like the SAint movie suit would it be ignored or thought of mechanical failure? do they ever calibrate this techknology?, i guess the question comes down to training, what does the training say about abnormal heat readings? lets say that i have a suit that could change temps to above 120 degrees? would the user question the tools or ignore since it cant be human or what? just thinking out of the box you people constructed?



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reply posted on 1-10-2008 @ 01:18 PM by bsbray11


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It would probably just draw attention to you. Remember there is a human on the other side of these things and they are undoubtedly in a combat-mode of thinking, and are going to be cautious and want to be aware of their surroundings.


The smartest thing to do would probably be to stay where people wouldn't be looking for you in the first place, or somewhere where such heat signatures wouldn't be odd. Or else stay low to the ground, covered up and out of the open.



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