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Did the Space Shuttle dock at the Secret Space Station tonight?

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posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 08:56 PM
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There are three human space stations around the world. One is the ISS, the second is the secret military one and the third is the alien/human alliance against humanity's verson.

The military station is up their to watch what is going on and the alien/human alliance is using the station as a 'transponder' as well as a lookout post.




posted on Oct, 1 2007 @ 10:11 PM
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Three space stations huh, Do you have any pictures? I only know of the one rust bucket we got floating up there =)



posted on Oct, 2 2007 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by GiantPanda1979
Three space stations huh, Do you have any pictures? I only know of the one rust bucket we got floating up there =)


That is why it is called "secret".


Have you considered that a photo is bad evidence? There is a photo on the previous page that shows a BLACK LIGHT BEAM, which is completely new to me (unless you count that Admiral Byrd video from Highjump, which looks identical to the black beam seen in the photo....interesting coincidence, huh?). Does anyone believe that photo could be legit (other than myself, Zorgon, and a few thousand others "lurking")?



posted on Oct, 2 2007 @ 01:26 AM
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Concerning the links I uncovered, relating to the Progress cargo manifests, I'm pleased MrPenny reposted them, it shows he may have reviewed them, but I'm afraid they don't establish anything "typical' concerning the various amounts of "consumables" delivered to orbit.


The ISS Progress 18 spacecraft ... lifted off June 16 from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan and docked at 8:42 p.m. June 18. Among its 4,662 pounds of cargo is 397 pounds of propellant,...

Source | NASA | Progress Cargo Craft's Arrival a Station Highlight 06.18.05

Note: There was only 397lbs of propellant on this load.


Crewmembers say they can smell the fresh foods aboard a Progress, things like apples taken for granted on Earth, shortly after the unpiloted cargo craft docks with the International Space Station.

Source | NASA | Progress Cargo Craft's Arrival a Station Highlight 06.18.05

Nothing like fresh fruit, far from home.


You're absolutely correct Zorgon, they're rather coy about releasing detailed cargo manifests, in fact, I was surprised to originally find the one that was reposted for us by MrPenny.

There must be a valid reason why they don't want to release the details of simple resupply missions, don't you think?



posted on Oct, 2 2007 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by goosdawg
There must be a valid reason why they don't want to release the details of simple resupply missions, don't you think?


Ah yes....yet again the fraudulent "one follows the other" argument. Take a seat please. It may be as simple as a webmaster who doesn't particularly give a hoot, or even some staffing issue, forcing resources to some other project. It may be a long laundry list of "valid reasons".

So in just two cargo shipments, we can document well over a ton of propellant. You're getting good at this goosdawg....don't stop now. I don't really think you're helping zorgon's cause. 'Cause not only are you diggng the hole deeper, you may actually start shoveling the dirt in on top of yourself......


Edit to add: I really hope zorgon is available for further comment. I'm not sure what happens to people who claim to have information that may compromise national security.



[edit on 2-10-2007 by MrPenny]



posted on Oct, 2 2007 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by MrPenny
Edit to add: I really hope zorgon is available for further comment. I'm not sure what happens to people who claim to have information that may compromise national security.


That is why I like to keep you around. I enjoy seeing you work those court room lawyer tactics.



posted on Oct, 2 2007 @ 09:10 PM
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Sorry but no pictures. Will post more info as I get it. I understand the orbits for all three are different.



posted on Oct, 2 2007 @ 10:52 PM
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Hey Z, that there book looks as if someone is turning a buck on our work.

If not, it damn sure looks like it (judging by the cover)


So what, give 'em the full salvo then retreat?, land the big one (I think we already did that and MrPenny gave you a sample cross section of what everyone else thinks since he does such a good job of that), or just let the thread die? Still that leaves our cadre out on the ear.

We need to concentrate on our own group, we have people in there that actually produce. We are not going to get a ship until they think we are ready, so we need to do what it takes to get ready, and arguing with MrPenny doesn't get us any closer. Not in this opinion, anyway, but for all I know MrPenny could be the big boss himself.

He reminds me of my ex. Every time I am about to make some kind of spiritual progress she shows up and finds a way to renew my resentment of her. Never fails. Its a knack, man, hard mojo. Just keep that in mind.



posted on Oct, 2 2007 @ 11:25 PM
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I'm not sure what happens to people who claim to have information that may compromise national security.


Sounds like a threat. You willing to put your money where your mouth is, buddy? I bet my prayer closet against your threats against Z. But I won't pray harm for you.
I never do. Instead, I'll pray ya right into Heaven. Won't that be fun? Oh you got my attention now.

Disclaimer: "into Heaven" means, that you become a christian, not that you die or anything bad like that there. May the Lord God Almighty, Heavenly Father, bless you abundantly, overflowing, with riches and loving friends and family. And may you find your way to salvation. Just keep it up and next thing ya know, I'll be praying for your whole family. Wheee.


[edit on 2-10-2007 by undo]



posted on Oct, 3 2007 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by MrPenny I really hope zorgon is available for further comment. I'm not sure what happens to people who claim to have information that may compromise national security.


People who HAVE such information are 'reminded' of what can happen if they pass it along...

Let me pass on a little quote... ( I was sure I had posted this, but just for you...)

And no I will not give you a name... scream and holler all you want, but this person is just to important


Oh and by the way, Mr Penny, as I am sure you will make some BS comment about this... I don't post it for your benefit




Hi, Ron...Good Morning!

Thanks for the note and you certainly touch on points of similarity and interest (proving that great minds think alike!).

I am free to talk about any of my published US Patents which are in the public domain. I am, however, under an edict from DoD under the NSA to 'report any inquiries relative to the stealth patent'. I had a phone call from a person who identified himself as an 'Undersectetary of Defense' and the person read a statement to me which I later found was excerpted from the National Security Act, as amended. I was 'ordered' to report any inquiries of any kind, by anyone, to DoD relative to that case (patent). I've only had to do that one time in 20 years when a group of Isreali's, based in Philly, contacted me relative to undertaking collaboration on some 'project' in Haifa. I reported this as instructed and the group 'disappeared' shortly thereafter."


There is much that we will share from this source once we are sure what we can repeat in a public chat room... and there are questions that I have no need to ask... a hint is good enough for me...

But the MIB's have a bad rap in this country... it's not like they are the KGB... they are very polite and simply show you the lines in the sand... it's a free country, no one stops you from stepping across.

But its okay I won't tease you anymore with tidbits like this...

LOL For all I know YOU may be a spook working for THEM


[edit on 3-10-2007 by zorgon]



posted on Oct, 3 2007 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by undo
Oh you got my attention now.




Welcome back Beth... how's things going? Gimme a buzz tomorow we need to get that site problem licked



posted on Oct, 3 2007 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by undo
Oh you got my attention now.




Welcome back Beth... how's things going? Gimme a buzz tomorow we need to get that site problem licked


Shhh, Beth is praying.


she'll be with you later.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by denythestatusquo
There are three human space stations around the world. One is the ISS, the second is the secret military one and the third is the alien/human alliance against humanity's verson.

The military station is up their to watch what is going on and the alien/human alliance is using the station as a 'transponder' as well as a lookout post.


Wow, you must be tied into, and privy to some information that the rest of us do not yet regard as fact. Please, shed some light on your lofty position in life that allows to make such assertions as fact.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 10:27 AM
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Hi

I'm a newbie poster, but not a newbie lurker..

I have followed this thread from page 1, and can understand John's reluctance to reveal all his sources... The main one would be to protect him/them. I can understand the sceptism towards his(and zorgon's) findings, but I am astounded at the amount of personal attacks done in this thread. I think it is up to the readers to do further investigation, but it seems as if the onus is on discrediting the writer, in stead of revealing facts about the topic at hand. If you have proof to the contrary, I'm sure they are welcome....

I for one belief that there are far to many "facts" if you will, to simply ignore...
No absolute proof, but then again... proof for one would be speculation for another.. John... zorgon.... keep up the good work...
I for one would like to hear more info on our "martians" and "lunacies"... or whatever you call moon dwellers....

Greets:



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by qrios
Hi

I'm a newbie poster, but not a newbie lurker..

I have followed this thread from page 1, and can understand John's reluctance to reveal all his sources... The main one would be to protect him/them. I can understand the sceptism towards his(and zorgon's) findings, but I am astounded at the amount of personal attacks done in this thread. I think it is up to the readers to do further investigation, but it seems as if the onus is on discrediting the writer, in stead of revealing facts about the topic at hand. If you have proof to the contrary, I'm sure they are welcome....


No sir
If you post amazing claims then you are obligated to post amazing evidence. Neither Lear Nor Zorgon have done that.
You cannot prove a negative. What can be done though and has been done quite successfully here is to demolish all the rubbish and slieght of hand moves perpetrated by those who would attempt to have you believe their fairytales.
There is no Secret Space Station. That is a fact.


I for one belief that there are far to many "facts" if you will, to simply ignore...

But in respect of this supposed secret space station there are no facts at all, simply speculation.




No absolute proof, but then again... proof for one would be speculation for another.. John... zorgon.... keep up the good work...


No, speculation is simply that, ideas thought etc. which is what Z and Lear post. Proof is incontrovertible, something which, in this thread inparticular thay have plainly failed to provide.



I for one would like to hear more info on our "martians" and "lunacies"... or whatever you call moon dwellers....

But just like the secret space station, there are no moon dwellers.
Dont let it worry you though.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by denythestatusquo
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Sorry but no pictures. Will post more info as I get it. I understand the orbits for all three are different.


'You understand' ? How did you get to understand that and do you know the orbits etc? as Im sure there are people who would like to see these space stations?..



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 11:17 AM
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Welcome qrios. I see Churlton is attempting to get the drop on us


Visit the link you want to see what the debunking is about.

It is like a religious war, a war of beliefs, populated with reincarnated inquisitors, 'Nazi' censors, pilgrims, and gatekeepers. Science holds no sway here, nor does democracy. Only the strongest survive, the strongest able to force their beliefs upon others.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 11:35 AM
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Well isnt that what some people are attempting to do here with their pseudo-science and totally laughable theories.?

Apart from which Mr Matyas. Im not trying to get the 'drop' on anyone.
This is a forum where people are able to share their views and opinions. But you sure are right when you said "Science holds no sway here"
John Lear posed the original question for this thread:
"Did the Space Shuttle dock at the Secret Space Station tonight"
And, as yet there has not been one scrap of evidence, not one scrap of science to answer that question, hence the only logical answer must be No.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 12:36 PM
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Oh, did I mention cointel and disinfo agents? Those are the 'smart' side, the others are Philistines who would rather burn the books than read them.

If you have been a lurker then you know this.

I stopped posting links, with the exception of the internal one I gave you, since it was not demanded.

And what cannot be demanded cannot be rejected.

I stopped because our esteemed critics did not want to do any work, but reinterpret the very act of posting links as a partial admission to defeat.

Now I say use the library. See how they react to such treatment.



posted on Oct, 7 2007 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Matyas
So what, give 'em the full salvo then retreat?,


No while that would be a tactic against skeptics...hit em with all you got... and watch them flounder
it wouldn't be fare to those truly interested in this... and as has been said 'its only the tip of the iceberg'

But right now is my busy season at work so as they say 'patience is a virtue'



or just let the thread die? Still that leaves our cadre out on the ear.


Not gonna happen... though their will be calms between the storms

Speaking of Cadres... the NAVY has a new one...

First a quote...



General Kevin P. Chilton
Commander, Air Force Space Command

"The establishment of Space Command is a crucial milestone in
the evolution of military space operations. Space is a place--like
land, sea, and air--a theater of operations. And it was just a matter
of time until space was treated as such."

~ General James V. Hartinger, 1 September 1982


Now about that NAVY Cadre..



Beginning in the mid-1980s, concurrent with the development of space operations and space engineering curricula at the Naval Postgraduate School, the Navy began “coding” officers as space subspecialists. As space subspecialty codes were then assigned to particular officers’ billets on numbered Fleet staffs and at commands ashore, the service began assigning Navy members with matching codes to those positions. More recently, the Navy has begun efforts to build a cadre of “space smart” officers, enlisted personnel and civilian employees.

The Naval Space Cadre is composed of active-duty and reserve Navy and Marine Corps officers and enlisted personnel, along with Navy civilian employees from a wide range of career fields who meet mandatory education, training and experience standards established for a particular certification level. The Navy Space Cadre is a distinct body of expertise horizontally and vertically integrated within Navy and Marine Corps active duty, reserves and civilian employee communities organized to operationalize space

Initial identification of the cadre began in mid-2001 with the standup of the Naval Space Cadre Working Group and culminated in a naval message (NAVADMIN 201/03 DTG211435Z JUL 03) announcing the first 700 officer members of the cadre. These officers were identified by the subspecialty codes of 6206, Space Systems Operations, and 5500, Space Systems Engineering or by the additional qualification designator of VS1, VS2, VS3 or VS4. Identification of enlisted and civilian cadre members is more challenging, as these groups do not have specif?ic space identifiers like the officers do.

Approximately 265 billets are currently identified as space billets. These jobs are in Navy, joint and National Security Space organizations. Space cadre members are currently assigned throughout the National Security Space arena, including the National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Space Architect, National Security Space Integration, MILSATCOM Joint Program Office, as well as in all Navy organizations that deal with space.


This is reprinted from "High Frontier - The Journal for Space and Missile Professionals" - Summer 2004 It is available by subscription even to the public



We need to concentrate on our own group, we have people in there that actually produce. We are not going to get a ship until they think we are ready, so we need to do what it takes to get ready, and arguing with MrPenny doesn't get us any closer. Not in this opinion, anyway, but for all I know MrPenny could be the big boss himself.


Sigh you are right... but I have been busier than you know... The database is almost complete and Mr Furry is about to get dumped with over 400 links to process
(The last ones left to catch up on) The patent data based is done just adding the new ones from Dr JR today


As to Mr Penny working for them?
Not a chance in Hades... wrong tactics... don't forget about our 'visitor' from the DoD who spent three days 'chatting' Believe me the tactics that Chorlton and Mr Penny use are not even close to what THEY use


Is it rude to talk about em like that? Oh well too bad... at least its not behind their back





Just keep that in mind.


yeah I hear you, but I don't have anyone on ignore, much as I am tempted at times. I always leave out the hope that they might actually learn something... silly of me huh?

Well tell you what... I will catch up the yahoo mail today and make the member list... and if your nice I might send you the drawings for the star drive that I don't have
Those formulas are way above my head



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