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posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 02:16 PM
Vacation Packages

Lunar Hilton

Lunar Hilton and Orbital Hilton, Luna

Phase One: 3 Story 100 Room Underground - Began 1967 with Press release
Phase Two: 5,000 Rom Luxury Hotel under Glass Dome
Drawings Complete March 1998 Peter Inston
Initial Investment for Phase Two: 300,000.00
Capacity in Final Phase: 5000 Beds
Support: A school, a hospital and a multi denominational church
Features: Sand beaches on artificial moon lakes, hotel internal water Recycling system
Final Phase Completion: 2050
Class: Luxury Hotel - Lunar Hilton Hotel
Price: Special offer for one week: $25,000 Euro (Transportation Extra)

"Chairman of the US company Hilton Hotels, Barron Hilton (not Baron Hilton) at a space conference in 1967. The optimistic "Can do" spirit that existed in the US space industry in those days during the build-up to Apollo 11 is particularly notable. That discussion continued in the press for a few years, with senior NASA figures making speeches about the possibility of ordinary people being able to buy trips to space. But it faded away as the space shuttle project was begun and almost everyone waited, relying on that to reduce launch costs. The speech is made more notable by the announcement early in 1998 by Hilton International (a British company) of their plans for a "Lunar Hilton" - using water from the "polar ice" to make an artificial beach. " - Press Conference 1967

Lunar Hilton Phase Two Interior

"Entrance to the Lunar Hilton will be on the surface of the moon, but most of the Hilton will be situated beneath the surface - say 20 to 30 feet - to establish constant temperature controls and a more workable hotel area. The experiments of [4] Surveyor Three seem to indicate that excavations on the moon are possible and that the moon soil might be used for construction. The Hilton will have three levels. At the bottom mechanical equipment will be housed. The center level will consist of two 400 foot guest corridors crossing in the middle core. These corridors will contain 100 guest rooms. The top level will be used for public space. Off the dining room we will place necessary machines and storage areas. To start with we will have only three floors, which will eliminate elevators and minimize power requirements. The multi-storied underground hotel will come later. But - and this is very important - in almost every respect the Lunar Hilton will be physically like an earth Hilton."

Barron Hilton, 1967, "Hotels in Space", Based on Preprint AAS 67-126, 1967 AAS Conference Proceedings.

First on the Moon for Hilton

Final Sketch for Phase Two

"A beach holiday is all very well but where better to top up a stellar suntan than the Lunar Hilton? Soaking up the rays under an Earth lit sky may sound like something out of sci-fi, but plans to open the first luxury hotel on the Moon are already well underway. Top British designer Peter Inston (Inston Design International, 33, Cork Street, London W1X 1HB) has been chosen to design the new building, which will include a vast rotunda containing 5000 guest rooms and a central "activity" dome bigger than the controversial Millennium Dome in Greenwich in London. The Lunar Hilton project has gained momentum recently due to the possibility that there are vast ice reservoirs in lunar craters. Ice means plentiful supplies of water and oxygen. Lots of people would love to go on holiday to the Moon, especially if they could stay in luxurious surroundings," says Mr. Inston, who has designed hotels all over the world including the Intercontinental hotel lit Istanbul and the new Hilton hotel in St. Lucia in the Caribbean. "Lunar tourism is going to take off in a big way. I am particularly pleased to be working with the Hilton on this ground-breaking project."

Lunar Hilton

Ask yourself this...

How did Barron Hilton know about the water on the Moon at the south pole in i967 when according to the Department of Defense we did not know this until Clementine in 1994... a fact released at a Pentagon Press Conference in 1996, but not posted for the public until Dec 2006

Department of Defense Briefing

Its a long report... its on the DoD .mil site... when you read it do a search for "lake"

So again how did Barron Hilton KNOW in 1967?

And while we are asking THAT question... please explain to me how they managed to create such highly detailed topographical maps in 1967, two years BEFORE we were supposed to have landed there? (This will be dealt with later in the Mining Department but it's relevant here as well)

There are MANY areas covered here but the map we are concerned with is Copernicus Crater. The map was created in 1967 by HH Schmitt, EM Shoemaker and NJ Trask

Warning the small maps are 7-8 megs the full size 47-56 megs

USGS Topographical Maps

So Barron Hilton knew about the water, and the USGS had high grade mining maps completed in 1967...


posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 02:32 PM

Many people always ask how John knows what he knows... so I thought I would share one little tidbit with you...

Hotels in Space
1967 AAS Conference Proceedings
American Astronautical Society, AAS 67-126

HOTELS IN SPACE (Based on Preprint AAS 67-126)
Barron Hilton (President, Hilton Hotels Corporation)

Relevant Excerpt... Barron Hilton talks about Don Douglas Jr.

"Perhaps we'd better learn to walk before we run, so let's begin with the Orbiter Hilton. My friend Don Douglas, Jr., has been telling me about his company's concept of a space laboratory which would be 14 stories high and could comfortably accommodate up to 24 people. Personnel would arrive in a six man ferry craft.

As developed and expanded why couldn't this be the first orbiter Hilton? Perhaps the two organizations - Hilton and Douglas - could get together on a deal. Mr. Douglas could provide the orbiter hotels and we would franchise the Hilton name and know how to set up a chain of Hilton Douglas orbiter hotels.

These might be like Hilton Inns for short trips in space. They could accommodate brief stop-overs on a continuing journey to the moon or other planets. I should advise you - and I guess I'd better tell Mr. Douglas too - that an Orbiter Hilton is already in existence. It's known as "Hilton Space Station Number Five" and you'll be seeing it next fall in a motion picture called "2001 - A Space Odyssey". So I guess it behooves Mr. Douglas and me to get busy with our orbiters before somebody beats us to it."

- Barron Hilton 1967 - AAS 67-126

Many people have asked "How does John know so much... Well above you see the document dated 1967 where Barron Hilton talks about Don Douglas Jr. and their plans for the Lunar Hilton back in 1967...

Barron Hilton has encouraged the sport of gliding through the Barron Hilton Cup since 1981. Pilots who have completed the longest triangular flights are invited from around the world, with their guests, by Barron Hilton for a week long soaring camp at the Flying-M-Ranch in Nevada. The objective is for the best pilots to get to know each other and to fly with some of the other best soaring pilots. - Wikipedia

John sent me this letter today to add (Sun Sept. 16, 2007) as I was finishing this page...

This was taken on April 9, 1966. I had flown Barron Hilton up
to see Donald Douglas, Jr.. I was flying number 100 Learjet

N 427 LJ.


John Lear at the Flying M Ranch 1966

On another curious note...

Plane Carrying Aviation Adventurer Steve Fossett Missing
Fox News - Wednesday, September 05, 2007
Discussion Thread at ATS (

Photo Associated Press
March 3, 2005: Steve Fossett and Sir Richard Branson, left to right,
celebrate after Fossett landed the Virgin Atlantic Global Flyer at Salina
Municipal Airport in his solo flight around the world without refueling, Kansas.

See More Photos at Fox News

Rescue crews on Wednesday were to resume their search for the plane of aviation adventurer Steve Fossett, who disappeared after takeoff from a private airstrip in Nevada.

Fossett, 63, the first person to fly solo around the world in a hot air balloon, last was seen on Monday in a single engine plane heading south of Smith Valley, Nev., Ian Gregor, a spokesman for the Western Pacific region of the Federal Aviation Administration, told

Fossett departed at 8:45 a.m. Monday from the Flying M Ranch in Yerington, Nev., but did not file a flight plan so it is unknown where he was going.


Skeptics spend hours arguing little points about one piece of evidence... they want to detract you from seeing the 'BIG PICTURE' This is so big you cannot look at just one piece... you have to collect ALL the relevant information and piece it together like a jigsaw puzzle...

Its all about


So Steve Fossett is connected to Sir Richard Branson of Virgin Galactic...

Don't go away... we will be right back... Lunch Break

posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 03:57 PM
Bigelow Sundancer Space Hotel

Cost: $75 Million
Capacity: 180 cubic meters
Support: attitude control, orbit maneuverability and three windows to support a crew of three.
Class: Orbiting Platform Budget Suites

Price: $8 million a week per person

Billionaire Robert Bigelow, founder of the Budget Suites hotel chain, is attempting a significant breakthrough in the private space tourism with inflatable modules. Source - Bigelow Aerospace

I wonder how they plan to keep the temperature controlled up there, as this one does not rotate...

You will notice that the Station also has a Progress ship attached to it...

CSI Lunar Express

Constellation Services International, Inc. (CSI)
Lunar Express View

Remember CSI? The LEO Express freight company? Well they have revived a time honored tradition... booking passengers on freighters... at reduced fare..

Constellation Services International (CSI) of Laguna Woods, California.

Concept: Cheap Fare to the Moon via Cargo Freighter
Capacity: Combined Soyuz and Progress
Class: Cargo Vessel; Passenger Capable
Price: Contact CSI for quotes and schedules

CSI is primarily a commercial re-supply company for the International Space Station (ISS). However, we have a vision that includes taking average people on a trip around the moon.

CSI Lunar Express (SM)System Enables a
100% Private Return to the Moon in 2-3 Years

CSI's inter modal architecture with standardized containers for space cargo delivery has other commercial applications, most notably as an affordable, near term capability for sending humans around the Moon, or even into Lunar Orbit. And by sparking a normal market driven trend towards more affordable cargo delivery to crewed platforms in Earth orbit, CSI will make new innovative markets for human space operations in LEO economically feasible, including large scale orbital tourism, satellite retrieval, maintenance, or repair, and exploration.

"Soyuz Tourist Trips to the Moon?," Astronotes, 27 July 2004

"Soyuz Will Fly to the Moon," The Komsomol’skaya Pravda, 9 August 2004

Logistics Paper showing Freight System and Passenger Outlines

SpaceDev Dream Chaser

Dream Chaser

Designed After: NASA and Air Force Bell X-2, North American X-15, and Northrop T-38
Class: Sub orbital Apogee 63 miles
Price: $200,000 to $300,000 per person - SpaceDev

The Benson Space Dream Chaser (also called the SpaceDev Dream Chaser) is one of the newest space tourism space crafts from Benson Space Company out of Poway, California.

Virgin Galactic

Photo Courtesy Virgin Galactic, Inc.

Design: Unique Concept
Class: Sub orbital Apogee 330,000 feet
Reservations: Fill out Form
Price: $200,000.00 per person Deposit $20,000.00

Virgin Galactic is the world's first spaceline. Giving you the groundbreaking opportunity to become one of the first ever non-professional astronauts. Virgin Galactic will own and operate its privately built spaceships, modeled on the remarkable, history making Spaceship One. - Virgin Galactic

Rocketplane XP

Photo Courtesy Rocketplane XP

Class: Sub orbital Apogee 330,000 feet
Reservations: 877.238.0057 or Fill Out Form
Price: $250,000.00 per person

Rocketplane XP space plane and start your flight on a modified Learjet 25 (plus delta wing and V-tail) from the Oklahoma Spaceport. - Rocketplane XP

Hey John... any chance Pegasus could rent one?

Space Ship One

Photos Courtesy Scaled Composites, Inc.
Spaceship One takes off (right) and view from space over Santa Barbara, CA (left).

Thinking of starting your own Space Liner company? No problem...

Class: Sub orbital
Price: Contact Scaled Composites

"Spaceship One (SS1) is the brainchild of Burt Rutan and his aviation company Scaled Composites. The $25 million funding for the project was provided by Microsoft co-founder, Paul Allen, who regularly appears on the Forbes list of the world's richest people."
- Scaled Composites

That concludes the Vacation Packages Tour...

See you all on the Moon... and don't forget your sun block... you think the UV is tough in California?

While your waiting for that transport, look at the presentation about our Cargo vessel factory in Russia...


posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 04:36 PM
Progress Automated Cargo Vessels

Credit: ESA

Hello... Welcome to our presentation on the Progress Cargo Vessels from Russia... You have all looked out the window and seen the vessels currently docked at any time during your visit... Its very busy up here as you can see...

In the first slide [above] provided by the European Space Agency we see three vehicles. On the left side of this view, attached to Zvezda, is the Progress spacecraft and on the right side, attached to the Nadir docking port of Zarya, the Soyuz TMA-4 with which André and the Expedition 9 crew arrived at the Station and which now will remain there until the next ISS mission in October 2004. European Space Agency Astronaut André Kuipers launched with Expedition 9 on the Soyuz TMA-4 spacecraft and returned with Expedition 8 on Soyuz TMA-3. ESA does a lot of business with our Russian friends

Mission: Expedition 9/Soyuz 8
Vehicle: Soyuz TMA-4
Launch Pad: Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan
EVAs: 4
Launch: April 18, 2004, 10:19 p.m. CDT
Docking: April 21, 2004, 12:01 a.m. CDT
Undocking: Oct. 23, 2004, 4:08 p.m. CDT
Landing: Oct. 23, 2004, 7:36 p.m. CDT

Cooperation with Russia
Crew portrait Soyuz flight 8S. Left to right NASA astronaut Michael Fincke, Russian cosmonaut and Soyuz commander Gennadi Padalka, Dutch ESA astronaut André Kuipers. (March 2004)

ESA Special Report: ESA Permanent Mission in Russia

Now I hope you were all paying close attention to that last UNDOCKING to LANDING time 3 hours 28 minutes

So what happened to those two-three day check lists?
I guess they had a wedding to go to....


29 January 2004
Preparing for the arrival of the first European Automated Transfer Vehicle.

Europe's scientific utilisation of the International Space Station (ISS) took an important step forward with the launch of an unmanned Russian Progress cargo spacecraft today at 12:58 Central European Time (16:58 local time) from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. The Progress supply vehicle will take two days to reach the International Space Station, carrying experiment hardware for the Delta mission to be carried out by ESA's Dutch astronaut André Kuipers in April, Matroshka, a European experiment facility for measuring radiation levels to which astronauts are exposed in space, and hardware to allow the European Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV) to dock with the Station.

Launched by a Soyuz rocket on mission 13P, the Progress spacecraft with the serial number M1-11 is due to dock with the International Space Station on 31 January at 14:19 Central European Time. The Progress-type spacecraft are currently serving as supply vehicles for the International Space Station and are also uploading European hardware and equipment in advance of European missions to be carried out on the International Space Station.

2-2004: Successful Progress launch paves the way for further scientific utilisation of the ISS by Europe

So is ANYBODY out there even a little curious where all these tons and tons of cargo are going? Its a teeny weeny little space station with very little storage space...

News Flash.... this just in....

Space Station to Get Japanese Take-Out

Japanese space food will soon be available on the International Space Station (ISS). The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has certified 29 Japanese food products for use in space.

Astronauts and cosmonauts will soon enjoy such Japanese take-out standards as ramen, curry, onigiri (rice balls) and green tea (see photo). What took them so long?

Credit: Zvezda

Our next Slide shows the Progress M-46 under going last minute inspections before being delivered to the launch site...

A Soyuz U successfully launched Progress M-46 from Baikonur Cosmodrome, pad LC1/5, at 0536:30 UTC on June 26, 2002. The cargo spacecraft is carrying 2.5 metric tons of supplies, including propellant, oxygen, water, food, medicines and packages, to the International Space Station (ISS) for the fifth expedition crew.

Russian flight controllers plan to use the cargo spacecraft to perform tests on the KURS automated rendezvous system. The test adds an extra day to the timeline, so instead of the usual two day transit from launch to docking, the trip will take 3 days.
- Soyuz Launches Progress Cargo Flight to ISS

Credit: Zvezda

The Progress M-46 launched by a Soyuz U from the Baikonur Cosmodrome pad LC/15 on 26 June 2002 at 05:36:30 (UTC). Our services up here in freight handling require a large support system back in Russia to fill the requirements. On top of the regular scheduled Progress flights many private companies are now using the Progress Class automated cargo vessels, most notably CSI with their LEO Express (SM) Space Cargo System [HERE] and their CSI Lunar Express [HERE]. Also Bigelow Aerospace contracted a Russian Progress for his Sundancer Space Hotel

Sundancer Bigelow Aerospace

So to support such a ambitious cargo transport system you can see we would require a factory assembly line to keep up with the demand. Many people in the United States have been told, and still believe to this day that Russia is poor and lacking funds for a huge Space Program, citing the tourist dollars and advertising money they collect as the way they fund their program. We find this amusing up here, because all people really have to do is open their eyes and look. The information is every where for those willing to find it...

Here is a few slides from the factory. The first is showing the completed vehicles on the rail bed ready for shipping. You can see two on this line at the moment...

Credit: Zvezda

And in this slide you can see a portion of the production lines with the spacecraft in various stages of completion. A lot about this plant is still top secret and we cannot show you everything, but this image should remove all doubt that the Russians are serious contenders and do indeed have the ability to supply our needs with unmanned reliable robotic cargo transports..

Credit: Zvezda

This concludes this short presentation. There will be a revised version available in a few weeks. Also for those interested in the Military aspects of our 'work' up here we will feature a presentation of the "Black Spacecraft" That presentation is only available, however to those with appropriate clearance...

Thank you for your time and interest in the International Space Supercenter's operations and logistics. We hope your journey outbound or Earthward will be a safe one. While you are awaiting your transport, remember we have lots of fresh fruit and vegetables in the commissary....

Credit: NASA

In closing we will leave you with one question...

Just where is all this food and cargo going? There are only a handfull of people up there and very limited space. Just what do they do all the time they are up there?

This will continue... we are currently tracking cargo shipments and military missions

Stay tuned.....

Brought to you by the members of ATS and Pegasus Research Consortium

posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 05:06 PM


The following addition was recently discovered and is actually part of our next presentation on Lunar and Mars Mining Operations... but as it shows a direct link between the commercial and private operations discussed above... and is a perfect lead in to the Mining portion... I though it best to include it here...

The Saturn 5 and Lunar Mining Operations

For those of you who thought the Saturn 5 was a dead duck... Guess Again. As you can see in the Prospectus below CSI has incorporated plans to consider the Saturn 5 as a viable launch vehicle...

Credit: CSI PDF (Linked to in previous post)

WHAT? You haven't read it yet?

Also mentioned in this report is the Delta IV and Sea Launch. These two link back to our other articles that will be covered in the Mining and Military sections of our presentation

CSI is not the only private company planning to use the Saturn 5 launch vehicle...

H H Schmitt
Interlune Intermars Initiative Inc.

Catchy Title

Short Biography
Harrison Hagan Schmitt, a native of Silver City, NM, has the diverse experience of a geologist, pilot, astronaut, administrator, businessman, writer, and U.S. Senator. He received his B.S. from Caltech, studied as a Fulbright Scholar at Oslo, and attended graduate school at Harvard. His Ph.D. in geology in 1964 is based on geological field studies in Norway. As a civilian, Schmitt received Air Force jet pilot wings in 1965 and Navy helicopter wings in 1967.

Former Apollo 17 Astronaut, US Senator and Geologist H H Schmitt (Remember the USGS Maps?) owns a company called Interlune Intermars Initiative Inc.

Launch Costs (see Schmitt, 1994)

The longest financial pole in a large tent full of long poles.
- Professor Thompson has shown that the major factor in the cost of large space projects is launch cost.
- With respect to lunar 3He, $1000-2000 appears to be about the limit and still have an attractive rate of return for investors
- The potential market in space for lunar volatile by-products has not yet been factored into this analysis

Apollo "capital" costs related to research, development, manufacturing, and operations were about $64 billion in current dollars, including the spacecraft, facilities, and training.
- Gave a Saturn V launch vehicle that could place a maximum payload of about 43,000 kg on a lunar intercept trajectory as well as about two weeks of space operations related to that payload.
- At the end of the Apollo Program, the cost of each additional lunar mission was about $3 billion, if one includes about $500 million as the cost of capital, or
- Thus, the cost/kg for the Saturn V would be about $70,000. + In consideration of pure launch costs/kg, and given that the above numbers include spacecraft, operations, and training costs that would be allocated elsewhere, these Apollo numbers define the maximum cost envelope

However, it can be reasonably assumed that future launch costs, based on the engineering concepts of the Saturn V, would be significantly lower.

"Pure" Management Components for a 3He Enterprise

Credit: Interlune Intermars Initiative Inc.

Credit: Interlune Intermars Initiative Inc.

Now this all connects us with our presentation on LUNAR MINING OPERATION. We present this here as a direct connection between the Commercial aspect of Space Operations that we have shown in the shopping mall presentation and gives us a perfect lead in to the Mining Section. The Military Section will follow after.

You have seen in these post many launches from many places all using the Progress series... when we get to the Military section we WILL address the launch platforms and locations.

We will also address the 'possible reason' why you cannot see them... but I warn you that crosses into stealth technology so what we show will be limited by what's allowed within 'national security' guidelines. If that 'excuse' does not sit well with a few of our skeptics I would have to ask what their objective is, but we will be more than happy to refer you to the appropriate Defense Department laison who would be happy to answer any questions you might have...

Hope you have enjoyed the presentation and have learned something...

Open your eyes... there is more going on 'out there' than NASA

All this data is available for review anytime... just visit

[edit on 19-9-2007 by zorgon]

posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 07:40 PM
Absolutely incredible work Zorgon! You are da Man of da Hour!

Looks as though we might be a little late though...

National Geographic, October 2007, page 106, is featuring the same special...

AND they are telling us cislunar space is ours now...

No wonder our sources were so forthcoming

Our critics were so busy keeping us behind the curve we lost the pass to the other team

If anyone wants to come in here and have me put them on ignore, I am waiting with anxious trigger finger! All you have to do is debunk National Geographic, much less Zorgon!

posted on Sep, 19 2007 @ 11:33 PM

Originally posted by Matyas
National Geographic, October 2007, page 106, is featuring the same special...

So THAT'S who's been snooping in my computer

Its okay this is just the tame public stuff... wait till we get to the good stuff...

But I think I better get an 'exterminator' in here and get rid of those pesky 'bugs'

[edit on 19-9-2007 by zorgon]

posted on Sep, 20 2007 @ 08:00 AM

Originally posted by zorgon
Its okay this is just the tame public stuff... wait till we get to the good stuff...

Yeah, that's all spectacular, makes a good show, but if you read 'between the lines' in the NG article we can expect a rush on cislunar space. My prediction in Priority One is coming true! I am 100% confident for every company you find there are half a dozen others. The solution is simple, crowd out the opposition!

NASA's domination (planned and otherwise) of space will extend to all solar space beyond the Moon. I expect any day now they will launch the tether ships to Jupiter. Have you heard any further word yet about the scrams on Venus? And they will have their hands full with the palatable presence of the Saturnine contingency...

But I think I better get an 'exterminator' in here and get rid of those pesky 'bugs'

I got your exterminator right here buddy, its called the 'iggy' button...

posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 01:42 AM
got very quiet in here all of a sudden

That will give me time for phase two

So Matt did you find out anymore about the Tether ships near Jupiter?

Well we found some near Saturn...

Tethers Near Saturn

[edit on 21-9-2007 by zorgon]

posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 02:03 AM

Originally posted by zorgon
got very quiet in here all of a sudden


You make to much sense here!

It takes some time to absorb it all. Give us some time please...

posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 01:38 PM
hi there

many many thanks to Zorgon to all the hard work and time put in to these posts and thanks John for creating the topic.

i am waiting with baited breath for your next installments



edit for spelling

[edit on 21-9-2007 by snoopyuk]

posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 07:15 PM
Zorgon, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You! Absolutely stunning work!

Your presentation transcends the available superlatives listed in the online thesaurus.

And thanks again also to Mr Lear for setting this juggernaut in motion!

I shall now engage in quiet, yet active contemplation of the remarkable information you have so generously bestowed upon us, and attempt to constrain my eager anticipation of the edifying bounty yet to be revealed!

I am enthralled...

posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 08:14 PM

Originally posted by goosdawg
I shall now engage in quiet, yet active contemplation of the remarkable information you have so generously bestowed upon us, and attempt to constrain my eager anticipation of the edifying bounty yet to be revealed!

Weird, when I write like that, I catch all kind of grief. Whatever you do , don't introduce the readers to the word "unctuous". Its like a 'word grenade'.

posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 09:52 PM
reply to post by MrPenny

The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.

Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)


Did I not mention the thesaurus in my previous post?

What's another word for Thesaurus?

Steven Wright (1955 - )


Now I gotta go look up this affable word "unctuous"...

[edit on 21-9-2007 by goosdawg]

posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 10:00 PM

Originally posted by goosdawg
Now I gotta go look up this affable word "unctuous"...

Yeah, I know some words. Trust me, "unctuous" is not 'affable' by any stretch of the imagination. Your use of the word "affable" in that context is hilarious.

[edit on 21-9-2007 by MrPenny]

posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 10:19 PM

1. characterized by excessive piousness or moralistic fervor, esp. in an affected manner; excessively smooth, suave, or smug.
2. of the nature of or characteristic of an unguent or ointment; oily; greasy.
3. having an oily or soapy feel, as certain minerals.


[Origin: 1350–1400; ME < ML ūnctuōsus, equiv. to L ūnctu(s) act of anointing (ung(uere) to smear, anoint + -tus suffix of v. action) + -ōsus -ous]

Yeah. Unctuous

You're welcome.


posted on Sep, 21 2007 @ 11:47 PM

Originally posted by MrPenny...don't introduce the readers to the word "unctuous".

There are some who say what they mean and mean what they say. Not everyone is astucious MrPenny.

posted on Sep, 22 2007 @ 08:35 AM
reply to post by Matyas

This is simply too comical.

The first place I caught grief for using "big words" was directly related to a post referencing John Lear.

Now look, ya'll are vomiting syllables all over the place.

posted on Sep, 22 2007 @ 08:47 AM

ya'll are vomiting syllables all over the place.

Projecting again?

Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of ...........BARF ..........cough, hack, clear throat, wipe mouth........ them all?

posted on Sep, 23 2007 @ 12:36 AM
reply to post by MrPenny

During this pause in the presentation by the right honorable Zorgon, and Mr Lear, et al, do allow to me acknowledge your having chosen me to be among the ranks of your respected foes, MrPenny.

I feel humbled to be included in their surly, rather, their surely august multitude.

I can assure you I shall endeavor at all times to remain respectful and deserving of such an honor, good MrPenny.

I can, but I shan't.

I do however hereby certify, I shall always attempt to use the words that best describe the point I'm trying to make, regardless of my mood at the time, whether or not I believe it myself, to the best of my humble abilities.


Of course not, I'm typing them.

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