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Originally posted by housegroove23
Zorgon, John Lear and everyone else involved, Thank You very much for your time, hard work and efforts. Keep going and never let these guys through you off track. We are listening.
Originally posted by jedimiller
WOW! thanks, I'll have to work on drawing the space station on space. those drawings appear to have been drawn on a computer, i'm more of a hands on artist. I'll come up with something next week.
Caption from NASA - S115-E-06750 (17 Sept. 2006) --- This view of the International Space Station, back dropped against the blackness of space, was taken shortly after the Space Shuttle Atlantis undocked from the orbital outpost at 7:50 a.m. CDT. The unlinking completed six days, two hours and two minutes of joint operations with the station crew. Atlantis left the station with a new, second pair of 240 foot solar wings, attached to a new 17.5 ton section of truss with batteries, electronics and a giant rotating joint. The new solar arrays eventually will double the station's onboard power when their electrical systems are brought online during the next shuttle flight, planned for launch in December.
Originally posted by defcon5
If this were not the case then it would be visible to everyone, just as others have mentioned.
Source - Smithsonian Paper
"The Lego Company, being active in the non space area, in co-operation with Intospace, a space industry service provider, developed a space education project aimed at developing, launching and operating a Lego Robot on the Space Station. This series is a highly sophisticated assembly set with programmable microchips and advanced reaction systems such as light-, touch or rotational sensors. The space environment of the ISS was perceived as the right scenario for this hi-tech project."
Radio Shack delivers Father's Day gift in space
International Space Station Astronauts Receive Father's Day Gifts
"Fort Worth, Texas - April 30, 2001 - The Russian cosmonauts who ferried up a fresh lifeboat to the International Space Station are delivering surprise Father's Day gifts for American astronaut James Voss and Russian cosmonaut Yuri Usachev. Radio Shack is sending them talking picture frames with photos and 10 second voice messages from their daughters.
Today's Soyuz docking is the last opportunity to have a crew deliver Father's Day gifts before Sunday, June 17. The visiting Soyuz cosmonaut crew of Talgat Musabayev and Yuri Baturin, who blasted off from Baikonur, Kazakhstan, on April 28, carried both frames up to the International Space Station."
"Luna Corp. created several projects that engaged the public's interest in space, and that were aimed at enabling direct participation in space exploration. It was founded in 1989 and was dissolved in 2003 after working with NASA, the Russian space agency and commercial sponsors on visionary projects. The company's former president, David Gump, is now CEO of Transformational Space Corp.
Luna Corp. was the first company to successfully arrange for a television commercial to be shot on the International Space Station. Radio Shack aired its space station commercial starting on May 30, 2001, and bought additional network time leading up to Father's Day because it drew such a strong positive response from audiences. The following is the news release issued by Radio Shack and Luna Corp. announcing the event."
Capitalism Wins: Russia Takes the Lead in Space Age Advertising
By Todd Halvorson
31 May 2001
It's also the beginning of a new space race, one in which the Russians have once again taken an early lead over their American counterparts.
In what amounts to an orbital battle of "me first" product placement, advertisers in the U.S. and Europe are scrambling to get on board Space Station Alpha, which is being raised some 240 miles (384 kilometers) above Earth.
In may, four major corporations -- Radio Shack, Popular Mechanics, The LEGO Company and Pizza Hut -- paid to have cosmonauts promote consumer goods aboard the outpost. Meanwhile on Earth, U.S. federal government regulations have relegated NASA to the sidelines as the cash strapped Russians are rocketing off into a new age of high flying advertising, marketing and promotion.
Said Jay McGill, publisher of Popular Mechanics: "Anything can be done for rubles."
Pizza Hut Celebrates Successful Delivery to Space
22 May 2001
"Pizza Hut announced Tuesday that "the world's first space consumable pizza" had safely arrived on the International Space Station (ISS), where it was eaten by the astronauts living onboard.
"Wherever there is life, there will be Pizza Hut pizza," the Dallas based pizza chain's chief marketing officer Randy Gier said in a statement. "If space tourism is going to be a reality, Pizza Hut pizza will make the trip even better."
"Despite the unusual delivery address, the pizza, called "the culmination of nearly a year of collaboration" between the company and Russian nutritionists, largely conformed to the familiar recipe served up by some 12,000 Pizza Hut restaurants worldwide -- crust, tomato sauce and cheese.
However, the vacuum sealed space pizza was topped with salami rather than the traditional pepperoni. "Researchers found that pepperoni did not withstand the 60 day testing process," a company release rather cryptically stated."
"The US restaurant chain Pizza Hut has announced that it has become the first company in the world to deliver a pizza to outer space. The company is no stranger to making deliveries in bizarre circumstances - in 1991 they delivered pizzas to Boris Yeltsin and his supporters, who had prevailed over an attempted coup. When food supplies dwindled in the Russian Parliament building, Mr. Yeltsin
Originally posted by Lunica
-From a flat world, to a round world.
-The inquisition (very narrow perspective of things), to a brighter and "better" perspective and believe of things . (well, it seems there are some people still living in those ages right now...)
[And here you stick]
Originally posted by defcon5
Folks believed the world was flat based on superstition and faith, rather then science, logic and fact.
Folks allowed the inquisition based on faith, not on science, logic or fact.
See what I have stated in this thread is scientific fact, while they have presented belief.
So who here is teaching the flat earth again???
Originally posted by Lunica
Science did Not know the earth was round too. Yes, some people expected it and afterall tried it (going to the next step), but the public only knew after they actually tested it (and even then it took time to understand it was reality) They sticked to their believe faith and superstition.
By classical times an alternative idea, that Earth was spherical, had appeared in Ancient Greece. Pythagoras in the 6th century BC, apparently on aesthetic grounds, held that all the celestial bodies were spherical. However, most Presocratic Pythagoreans considered the world to be flat. Around 330 BC, Aristotle provided observational evidence for the spherical Earth, noting that travelers going south see southern constellations rise higher above the horizon. This is only possible if their horizon is at an angle to northerners' horizon. Thus the Earth's surface cannot be flat. He also noted that the border of the shadow of Earth on the Moon during the partial phase of a lunar eclipse is always circular, no matter how high the Moon is over the horizon. Only a sphere casts a circular shadow in every direction, whereas a circular disk casts an elliptical shadow in most directions.
Originally posted by Lunica
But I guess you dont understand a word of this...?
Originally posted by defcon5
As early as the Greeks it was scientifically, and mathematically known that the world was round, this idea was rejected by the church until much later however. The reason being that it was hard to justify that there were folks who were outside the reach of the gospel and thus outside the reach of salvation.
Yes I understand exactly.
You wish to believe in this theory, even though the facts go against it, because it is something you wish to believe in. Basically you take it on faith alone, as science and fact go against it. You are heading in the opposite direction of logic and science.
Your entire argument is flawed from the word go anyway, as your original speculation is incorrect. The early societies believed the Earth to be round based on mathematics and early astronomy.
The early societies believed the Earth to be round based on mathematics and early astronomy.
Originally posted by shd...this one was debunked by a good majority. Ignorethefacts is right and you are more then welcome to put me on your ignore list as well for agreeing with me.
Originally posted by shd but this one was debunked by a good majority.
Command Module (CM) – A scaled Apollo capsule 4.6 meters in diameter. The internal volume has a flat back wall for mounting powered and unpowered Mid Deck Lockers as well as Cargo Transfer Bags. Cargo Transfer Bag payloads while water and gas bottles, fill the remaining cargo volume. The Command Module incorporates structural provisions for seats to rapidly convert the capsule for crew transfer missions. This packaging arrangement provides flexibility for meeting a broad range of commercial customer requirements.
Andrews Space, Inc. Olympus Commercial Orbital Transportation System
Capacity: 4 Persons + Cargo
Olympus Commercial Orbital Transportation includes the Olympus Space Utility Vehicle (SUV) and the Olympus Launch Vehicle. The Olympus SUV is a reusable spacecraft capable of transporting unpressurized cargo, pressurized cargo, and crew – all during the same mission - to and from the ISS and other orbital destinations.
We are very pleased to announce that we have teamed with Rocketplane Ltd Inc. of Oklahoma and will continue operations as Rocketplane Kistler (RPK). We are the developer of the K-1 fully reusable aerospace vehicle, designed to deliver payloads to orbit and provide a low cost alternative to single use launch vehicles. The K-1 is fast becoming the industry leader in reliable, low cost provider of launch services for commercial, civil, and military payloads destined for Low Earth Orbit (LEO), Medium Earth Orbit (MEO) and Geosynchronous Earth Orbit (GEO), as well as to and from the International Space Station (ISS).
Orbital flight tests and commercial operations will be conducted from RPK’s commercial spaceport at Woomera, Australia, and performed by Kistler Woomera and Spaceport Woomera, wholly owned Australian subsidiaries.
An additional commercial spaceport is planned within the USA.
RPK Wins $207 Million Award to Demonstrate International Space Station Servicing
The Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) contract culminates in two flights to the ISS with first launch of RPK’s K-1 launch vehicle in late 2008.
Dennis Tito makes history as the first 'official' space tourist. The trip cost him 20 million. Dennis does not like to be called a 'space tourist' but the media have stuck him with this after his historic flight on the Russian Soyuz TM-32 to the ISS in April of 2007
Tito's Soyuz Crew Says ISS Visit Less Cordial than First Reported
By Yuri Karash Moscow Contributing Correspondent
posted: 04:00 pm ET 16 May 2001
"Dennis Tito received a frosty welcome from the American crew aboard the International Space Station (ISS) during his sojourn in space, according to his crew members at a post landing briefing held Tuesday in Star City, Russia.
"Having entered the station, we immediately felt that the U.S. crew members had been instructed to keep their distance from Dennis, and they followed this instruction," Soyuz commander Talgat Musabayev said at the event, held at Russia's cosmonaut training center." 
Q: "You've written before about the need to commercialize space. What does that mean, and how does it compare to the prevailing attitude abut space, especially NASA's perspective?"
A: It's quite insidious. NASA's version of commercialization is not privatization. Those are two very different words in NASA's mentality. NASA's view of commercialization is: "We, NASA, own everything. We own all the hardware. We own the facilities to move people back and forth, and when they get there, we own that facility too."
So in our scheme of commercializing things, we intend to be in business. They are a federal agency that's tax exempt and that gets $14 billion a year. And so they are paying no income taxes and here they are absolutely in business. They take 100 percent of the revenue of any company that pays them to do anything. And that's wrong; that's absolutely dead wrong. And it's a huge competitor to free enterprise."
Q: Why do you think NASA has been reluctant to allow tourists in space, like Dennis Tito, for example?
"Well, it's the mentality that "we own space." NASA stands for "No Access to Space for Americans" -- that's what it stands for to me and to most Americans. NASA has exclusive control and a lock on everything having to do with space, except for the Russian side. And they were just beyond belief in being rude and obnoxious [in response to Dennis Tito's trip]. It was just embarrassing to this country."