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UFO? Aircraft?

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posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 05:36 PM
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Explain THIS as a planet or a satellite or a star is simply ridicolous, at least i'm sure about this statement. If someone thinks that to look for an explanation for this kind of sightings is just a way to waste his time, he's free to look for more "exciting" threads, with no need to provide a simply unacceptable and meaningless explanation of it, IMO.
I think we could have a great opportunity to clarify something about this phenomena if we'll get a long-duration movie of it. We always have seen it when it was already in the sky, we still haven't seen it arriving from somewhere or being launched from the ground.
The one of this thread just hints to have been launched because its flying path is from the bottom to the top, but this isn't enough to state that it has been launched from the ground with absolute certainly, it's just a clue. Moreover, following at its behaviour during a longer fly ve can get more informations, maybe we'll have the luck to find out some details that conclusively help us to find out more. But so far, no an accettable as "conclusive" explanation has been provided, IMO.




posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 05:40 PM
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I agree. I have sent a PM to this user both on YouTube and LiveVideo to see where he got the video from or if there is a longer version.



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 08:45 AM
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I know how risky it can be to talk about lanterns after the heated is it/is it not lanterns debate surrounding the sightings in Stratford-Upon-Avon, England but this certainly appears to be either:

  1. a foil helium balloon
  2. or a lantern


I don't like to side with the balloon/lantern theory. It would be easy to discredit the balloon/lantern thoery if there was landscape shown in the background of the video as you could use it as a reference for object speed and direction but as it is this is a tough one to call!



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 11:13 AM
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I think it's a Halloween Pumpkin and it's evolved to gain it's own intelligence, and it's emigrating for a warmer climate.

www.ndesign-studio.com...





[edit on 21uTuesday07/27/20 by paul76]



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by paul76
I think it's a Halloween Pumpkin and it's evolved to gain it's own intelligence, and it's emigrating for a warmer climate.

www.ndesign-studio.com...


Wow, just goes to show not everybody takes things seriously, which is fine, got to have a laugh now and again, so I'll have mine. Are you the resident comedian here?



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 10:36 PM
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I cropped some stills from the better quality movie: no rotating, no scale, no filter: as is.


It changes shape many times ....
look at frame # 5 and # 6


[edit on 21/8/2007 by internos]



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 10:45 PM
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Nice work internos, but can't the shape change just be down to camera shake and zoom? Or are these image grabs of when the object was steady in the frame?



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow Storm
Nice work internos, but can't the shape change just be down to camera shake and zoom? Or are these image grabs of when the object was steady in the frame?

No, of course: pause, crop, restart; is as is. What do you think about those two frames?

[edit on 21/8/2007 by internos]
EDIT: sorry, now i understand what you mean: the object was moving continuosly and with many different accelerations. When it changed shape it was at full speed, we can say...

[edit on 21/8/2007 by internos]



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 10:59 PM
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The images are good, but, it's almost impossible to tell if the object is accelerating or not, as there are no reference points to make that judgement. As the object darts about, or appears to dart about, is more than likely because the camera man hasn't got a steady hand, although it's very hard to zoom right in on an object in the sky and keep it steady in frame without using a tripod. I'm still waiting for Offerman to get back to me about this footage, would be nice to know where he got it from originally.

[edit on 21/8/07 by Shadow Storm]



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow Storm
The images are good, but, it's almost impossible to tell if the object is accelerating or not...

I agree. Moreover, if the source quality is better, with the help of some expert in perspectives and/or distances, we can try to determine if is normal that its flying path hasn't been affected by the turbolences.
It does not make sense to say that its behaviour has been normal or not if we don't know the distances between the plane and the object.

P.S.:
Thanks to this movie, we discovered that there are at least
four movies of the same object, in four different locations, (the other one i posted previously) that is different from it even if the shape is "alike"in some stills. This is clearly propelled by some kind of fuel, IMO, the other one still isn't clear if it's.
Edit: look at 2:17 on the one of livevideo, it should be a little slower...
Exactly, ther's a second, between 2:18 and 2:17 in which the shape is so visible.

Hope to find a longer footage.

[edit on 21/8/2007 by internos]



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by internos
It does not make sense to say that its behaviour has been normal or not if we don't know the distances between the plane and the object.


I don't think it's anywhere near the plane to be honest, although I can't be sure and I don't think anyone can, apart from maybe the pilot of the aircraft

But as the plane and object are both in shot, and as the plane goes out of shot, we see this left,right,up,down movement on the object aswell as the plane as it leaves the the shot, therefore I think it's just camera shake making it appear to be moving around by itself. The object is obviously moving, but in my opinion it's moving slowly. I don't think it was effected by the aircraft turbulence in any way because it's probably some distance away.



posted on Aug, 21 2007 @ 11:44 PM
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OK, i'll check here, every while; when you got the longer movie, if you find it, post it here




posted on Aug, 22 2007 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Shadow Storm

Originally posted by paul76
I think it's a Halloween Pumpkin and it's evolved to gain it's own intelligence, and it's emigrating for a warmer climate.

www.ndesign-studio.com...


Wow, just goes to show not everybody takes things seriously, which is fine, got to have a laugh now and again, so I'll have mine. Are you the resident comedian here?


Sorry Shadow Storm, that's all it is my humor. Actually a interesting video, thanks for posting. I do take the UFO phenomena seriously and the official explanations given for UFO incidents always tickles me, one example was the famous" SWAMP GAS" quote, that had me in fits, Anyway my humor as spawn from them explanations given over the years, and now it's like a little personal joke to me.



[edit on 22uWednesday07/27/20 by paul76]



posted on Aug, 22 2007 @ 06:48 PM
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I've seen something similar to this on the flightline. It was a civilian pattern helicopter coming across the pattern during sunset. The orange sunset reflected off the canopy and large door glass, creating a bright orange light with a dark top and bottom. It was very much like the image on the video. Until it turned for final, you couldn't make out any details of the tailboom, and the rotor couldn't be see at all.
I'd have to say that this is a helicopter.



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