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UFO? Aircraft?

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posted on Aug, 19 2007 @ 11:35 PM
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One of the better UFO videos I have seen and find it quite interesting. Sorry if it's been posted before. At first I thought it could possibly be another aircraft, but if we can rely on the color of the footage being correct then it's interesting because from what I am aware, no aircraft is allowed to use orange colored lights. FAA regulations for aircraft lighting is white, red and green, correct?





posted on Aug, 19 2007 @ 11:49 PM
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well it doesn't look like a plain to me.. then again i'm not an aviation expert

that goes down as a UFO in my book and that is actually half way decent footage.. doesn't appear to be tampered with.. the again i'm not a computer graphics expert



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 12:02 AM
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at first i thought it was a star and then they zoomed in and it was no star. light ring in the center with a dark top and bottom. that was quite unique to me. i have not seen this one yet. i'm glad i tuned into your thread. i'll have to take a better look at the lights up there because that sucker looked like a star until he zoomed in. i'll practice on some stars and see if that happens. i guess it should be a daylight star or more like dusk. really cool to see a new wonder in the sky. Maybe its just a better camera giving higher quality close up of what we've been seeing for a while.



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 12:21 AM
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Looks good to me. At first I was thinking it was another plane at a high altitude. But taken a second look, it appears to have most of the characteristics of some type of object.

Too bad there wasn't some clouds near by so you could have more of a reference point to see if the object was hovering or moving.



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by Shadow Storm: from what I am aware, no aircraft is allowed to use orange colored lights. FAA regulations for aircraft lighting is white, red and green, correct?


Navigation lights: All aircraft are equipped with a steady light near the leading edge of each wingtip. When facing forward from the perspective of the pilot, the light on the right wingtip is green while that on the left wing is red. The different colors make it possible for an outside observer, such as the pilot of another aircraft, to determine which direction the plane is flying. These navigation lights are most useful at night when it is more difficult to tell the direction the plane is going without them.

Navigation or Position lights: In addition to the red and green lights, most planes are also fitted with other steady white navigation lights in various locations. Large airliners, in particular, will often have such lighting on the trailing edge of each wingtip. These lights are also sometimes placed along the trailing edges of the horizontal tail. Another popular location is at the very aft end of the fuselage or at the top of the vertical tail. One of these latter lights placed along the aircraft centerline is especially common on smaller airliners and commuter planes. Whatever the location, the purpose of these steady white lights is to improve the plane's visibility from behind the aircraft.

Anti-Collision Beacon lights: Two beacon lights are fitted to aircraft near the center of the fuselage. One is located on top of the fuselage and the other on the bottom. These lights are colored reddish orange and rotate to produce a flashing effect. The beacons are turned on just before the engines are started and they remain active until the last engine is shut down. The beacons help to serve as a safety warning to ground personnel that the engines are operational.

Strobe lights: High-intensity strobe lights that flash a white-colored light are located on each wingtip. Most smaller planes are only equipped with one of these strobes near the leading edge just behind the red or green navigation light. Larger airliners may be equipped with an additional strobe at the trailing edge as well. These flashing lights are very bright and intended to attract attention during flight. They are sometimes also used on the runway and during taxi to make the plane more conspicuous.


Source: www.aerospaceweb.org...

[edit on 8/20/2007 by xout1]



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 04:18 AM
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IMO, a possible explanation could be a chinese lantern.
This could explane the flight path, if determined by the wind direction,
the shape, the size and the rocket-propelled look.
Because the perspective, it looks it brushes by the plane,
but it looks be closer while crossing the left wing of the plane.




You can see some of them in action here ....

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

But, as i said, it's just an opinion of a possible explanation.


[edit on 20/8/2007 by internos]



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 07:05 AM
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I agree. Its a lantern.
We've seen too many of them now and its difficult to mistake one for a UFO.



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 07:43 AM
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Good find Shadow Storm. It has the characteristics of many other daytime vids. The aura around it which some think is the oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere being energized by some sort of field. The black areas and step-movement...

Dallas



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 08:07 AM
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Yup, it's another interesting, but ultimately inconclusive video. And I agree it, or should I say they as there are two of them, could well be a lantern, but a question begs to be asked: the two youtube links provided by internos show candle powered lanterns, but what was in the "lantern" in Shadow Storm's op? A Kerosene lamp? Those light are seriously bright.

Maybe I'm wrong, but they're way brighter than the two examples previously mentioned and seem very stable considering they've just been passed by an airliner. Perhaps a better explanation of the objects could be UAVs of some description?



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by Beamish
...A Kerosene lamp? Those light are seriously bright.
Maybe brighter than the two examples previously mentioned and seem very stable ..


You're right, they were the first i've found.
Maybe we could try find "an answer" in the smoke colour:
In the still image i captured, it looks like to be orange.
Is hard to find videos of lanterns in the daylight because
they've been usually launched while nighttime...


About the bright, take a look here...
# 01

Here's a smoke that looks alike...
# 02
About it looks stable, i agree, and i noticed it.
But because the quality of the video it's very hard to determine the distance between the camera and the object and between the object and the plane. It's clear that if it was very close to the plane is really a strange behaviour, but if is if not so...


As i said before, mine is just an opinion...


[edit on 20/8/2007 by internos]



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 09:09 AM
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If a paper lantirn was anywhere near a jet engine it'd be destroyed by the vortex of the plane, not merely float on by. Also the illumination is immensely bright to be seen that high up & far away in daylight..this thing has what a few 1000 candle power? These lantirns are so hardy and amazing we should use them as the new stealth UAV's!


......rightttttttttttt



Originally posted by internos

Originally posted by Beamish
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posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 10:22 AM
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Nice finds internos, and yes, I agree they do kind of suggest you could be right.

But isn't there someting a little more stable and, dare I say, controlled about the objects flight in the OP's original vid? These lanterns all seem to exhibit a rather gentle swaying motion, together with a distinctive flickering light, when in flight. Perhaps I'm missing it, but do the objects in the vid do the same?

I've viewed the vid several times now, and I'm still of the opinion that we're looking at rather solid objects as opposed to tissue paper constructs. I make no assumptions as to what they are, but at leaast they're interesting!



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 12:39 PM
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IMO, we have a couple of problems with this video:

- we couldn't, so far, determine the distances, that could be a
decisive detail if the object was very close to the plane. Honestly, i can't say if it was 10, 100 feet or a mile or more far from the plane nor from the camera,
and there is a big difference between this values, in order to determine
if its behaviour in flight was normal or abnormal;

- the cameraman filmed shacking continuously his hand, since the start of the film,
so we're not able to understand exactly which movements of those we see are of the object himselfs and which have been caused by this shaking, but we're sure it changed flight path many times.

- a chinese lantern (if it is) can be hand-made, so there are no standard shapes with which to compare it, neither standard fuels: moreover, is hard to find pics of them in daylight.

I don't know which fuel could give off that colour of smoke.
I've seen rockets giving off orange smoke (and moreover the color could be simply a reflex of the fire), but we can see that the object changes shape, for this reason i think it could be made with soft, maybe reflective materials...moreover, the flying path suggests it has been launched from the ground.

Ther's another strange detail:
in this still image it looks like to have two simmetrical parts:



But, the same uploader, uploaded this too:

Video # 2
The uploader is the same, the object looks very similar, same year..

And these are lanterns, IMO, ther's transparency..
Video # 3
Uploader the same...


No idea...


[edit on 20/8/2007 by internos]



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 01:53 PM
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I don't think this is a lantern at all. People are always so quick to label something such as this as a lantern or balloon etc because it kind of 'fits' in with other sightings that have been explained as lanterns. Take the recent Stratford sighting for example, those I do believe were lanterns but this is totally different. I'm not saying this is an extraterrestrial spacecraft, it's probably not, the analysis so far has been good but inconclusive in my opinion.



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow Storm
I'm not saying this is an extraterrestrial spacecraft, it's probably not, the analysis so far has been good but inconclusive in my opinion.

Of course, they're inconclusive. Thre's still to do, here.

Let's take a look here:
on the left, a still image of the object we're debating here. There are chinese (i think) subtitles, maybe it has really been filmed there.
On the right, a still image of another video uploaded by the same user. In the desc. there is written: "China Shanghai Airport "
I've no photo-shopped it, just rotated the image 90° left to match the two.
Maybe i'm missing it, but it looks to be much alike, IMO.
This could be a small step, if someone else agrees.


The video of the other object is here:
LINK



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 02:57 PM
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internos, I see what you are getting at, but I see only a small similarity there, that footage is very poor in comparison to this one and way to short. It's not really getting any closer to what the object might be, just comparing two different objects seen in two different videos.



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 04:09 PM
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I've found other four videos of a object "alike", but this time recorded in UK and uploaded by the same user: if it's really so, we should assume that this guy has
being followed by the same ufo, from China to UK...
The main difference is that in the first video of this thread the object leaves a orange trail, in all the others, not. IMO, about the trail, there's to notice too that all the colour of the movie looks strange, is abnormal.
If you take a look at his profile,
www.youtube.com...

you'll find out that's plenty of video of the same object.
Honestly, i'm not able to say what it is, but of course, sounds like a "strange coincidence", at least...

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

I'm not sure of what it is, but i'm sure that it looks at least strange
thet every morning this guy wakes up, takes his camera and shots a new ufo sighting...., and, moreover, flies to china and...films an ufo there too and, willi-nilly, the SAME.
Maybe luck, i'm not claiming it's a hoax or a lantern or a weather balloon, but, a little bit strange...


[edit on 20/8/2007 by internos]



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 04:15 PM
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The person who uploads these videos, they aren't his. He gets UFO videos from all over the net and uploads them to YouTube. I'm one of his subscribers. He's also a member on the LiveVideo.com website and infact this video is there aswell and is much higher resolution. Link below.

Higher Res Version



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 04:46 PM
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Ok, thank you for the clarification.

After seeing all this videos, what i honestly can admit is that these objects
looks as to fly autonomously (it looks they are probably propelled by something like fuel), but, apparently, not much "purposely": i mean something more than float, much less than as if they were piloted by someone/thing. Moreover, if the plane is much close to it, it means this object of course CANNOT be a lantern, neither a kind of balloon, but we miss important data about the distances. In this video and in the other one with "chinese location" what we see is just sky, no town, neither airport, nothing that we could link really to that location, just a chinese like subtitle, nothing else. This is just my opinion, i know that absolutely is not conclusive. Do you know if these objects have already been debated here? I found nothing so far, just the other thread you opened titled "UFO Video - NOT a Balloon" which looks different from this.



[edit on 20/8/2007 by internos]



posted on Aug, 20 2007 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by internos
Do you know if these objects have already been debated here? I found nothing so far, just the other thread you opened titled "UFO Video - NOT a Balloon" which looks different from this.


I'm not sure. But I know some of these things have been explained away as the planet Venus, stars & satellites. I honestly don't think that what we are looking at in this video is any of those three, and nor do I believe it to be a lantern or a couple of lanterns joined together. Thats what I call a wastebasket explanation.
You have the poor out of focus videos at the bottom end, then up to the out right hoaxes, this footage falls in the middle of all that and is one of the more interesting and worthwhile pieces of footage. As one user commented: "I doubt Chinese lanterns, the luminosity is constant, and doesn't seem to flicker. There also appear to be two symmetrical pieces side by side, as well as symmetry of the light bisecting the top and bottom."



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