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From Macquarie Univeristy wesbite
Dr Keith Suter is the Consultant on Social Policy at Wesley Mission Sydney. He is also a Senior Fellow with the Global Business Network Australia, Consultant to Aged and Community Services (NSW), Health Services Association (NSW), and the Conflict Resolution Network. His first doctorate was in the international law of guerrilla warfare and his second in the economic and social consequences of the arms race.
From 1991-1998, he was President of the Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies, University of Sydney. Between 1979 and 1999 he was at various times the national and state presidents (NSW and WA) of the United Nations Association of Australia. In 1999 he was made a Life Member of the UN Association.
His latest book is “In Defence of Globalization” (University of New South Wales Press, 2001). In 1986: International Year of Peace, he was awarded the Australian Government’s Peace Medal. In 1994, he was voted “Australian Communicator of the Year”.
Hendrik: This strange weather seems to be spreading globally, it seems to be very fitting with the agenda of changing weather patterns and climate change and of course, as you say, there is this speculation that this isn’t natural and that it’s implemented from above and that this is weather manipulation in order to drive us further into the belief that this is man-made global warming and it is all our fault.
Alan Watt: Yes there’s the Club of Rome, which is one of the top global think-tanks that work for the global elite. They put a book out in the 1970s called “The First Global Revolution”, written by the two founders of the think-tank. These were the guys who gave us all the terminology to use for global warming, and in that book they said – and everyone should really get a copy of this – they said that they sat round thinking of ways to unite the world and get the people to give up their rights and be managed by the expert society.
And they discussed all possibilities, such as could they use the alien space invasion theory to terrify the public and create a common enemy to unify the planet, but eventually, the author says, they hit upon the idea of causing climatic changes by using sciences and then convincing the public that they [the public] were causing the problem so that mankind would see himself as the actual enemy of the world. So that’s in their own publication, their own book, called “The First Global Revolution”, put out and published by the Club of Rome who, once again, are the top think-tank for world strategy on the global level. They get their ideas out to the other think-tanks who then must implement it and market it into our minds through the media – so that’s all from the horses mouth.
What right does a member of the global strategy think-tank, the Club of Rome, have teaching students?
Does this not ring bells with other ATSers?? This guy is spreading his agenda in an educational institution and it just doesn’t sit well with me.
So, we know that the Global Warming agenda is closely linked with the Rothschild clan
But apart from that, what does everyone think about Suter teaching International Relations? I don’t like it one bit.
What right does a member of the global strategy think-tank, the Club of Rome, have teaching students?
Does this not ring bells with other ATSers?? This guy is spreading his agenda in an educational institution and it just doesn’t sit well with me.
So, we know that the Global Warming agenda is closely linked with the Rothschild clan
But apart from that, what does everyone think about Suter teaching International Relations? I don’t like it one bit.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
He's a human, so he has every right.
What right do you have to accuse him of such things?
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Ask your friend whether he is a good lecturer. Does he assess the topic fairly and communicate this knowledge to others well?
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Um, no we dont. We have someones opinion on the matter. No real evidence.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Your not in the class, are you?
again, ask your friend those questions.
Originally posted by Rilence
Did it occur to you at all, Australians might not want someone like this teaching in their universities ?
Frankly, if I were a student at that uni, I would start a movement to have that person removed from lecturing because of his bias...
Originally posted by Shar_Chi
How about asking what role he thinks the European monarchies should play in the EU and a hypothesised world government. And then how about the Vatican.
an email from Alan Watt
The COR (Club of Rome) was set up as the primary think tank to come up with ideas to unite the world under a common threat. They invented global warming, thus making man the main enemy to sustainable development, another of their terms.
They claim man has always had enemies and wars, the latter allowing great cohesion of people with a common purpose. They seek globalism, therefore they need a common enemy to keep people obedient under a guiding elite.
They are a branch of the RIIA (The Royal Institute of International Affairs). They also teach a form of indoctrination to each generation, convincing them by selective facts of the necessity of scientists and experts running their lives. They pass on their ideas to marketing firms which write "scientific" essays which they pass on to regular media to repeat to the public.
Anyone at that level of tutorship will be a freemason.
For Sutor, I am sure you will find a bio on him obtainable from the University, listing his associations.
All the best,
Alan
Double post, figures...
Did it occur to you at all, Australians might not want someone like this teaching in their universities ?
Frankly, if I were a student at that uni, I would start a movement to have that person removed from lecturing because of his bias...
I would suspect, without claiming 100% that the man is indeed a globalist looking at his past/current affiliations...
Perhaps he believes in his heart of hearts total globalisation together with its massive population reduction is the way to go
...If he truly believes this, tho, I dont think the man should be teaching at a tertiary level...
umm perhpas the fact that i am not ACCUSING but stating fact. he tells his students he is Club of Rome! he advertises the fact!
He tells his students that 911 was carried out by bored muslims and he attempts to force his globalist agenda on them by repeating the virtues of globalism. this is NOT the sign of a good lecturer.
Personally, IMO, i think there is enough evidence to say it is true. You WOULD be right if there wasnt published books by Club of Rome stating they created concepts such as global warming; and you WOULD be right if every researcher on the topic of the Rothschilds and Club of Rome didnt come to the same conclusion - that they collude to push the global warming agenda; but there is and they do, so thats evidence enough for me.
No, i never said i was in the class, my friend however is and doesnt like his teaching style. It pushes his agenda too heavily and says downright laughable things like his bored Muslim comment.
This is exactly what i suggested but with pressure to suceed in this day and age, no-one is game enough to challenge him and try to oust him, for fear that grades will suffer.
Also this guy obviously has some serious connections - would you want to be the one who got him fired?? hehe i wouldnt!
Just wanted to post an email response i got from reseacher Alan Watt on this topic
He's in the Club of Rome... But I must ask, what is the Club of Rome? Second, what does hat have to do with Freemasons, and what makes you think he is one?
Sources?
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
He's in the Club of Rome... But I must ask, what is the Club of Rome? Second, what does that have to do with Freemasons, and what makes you think he is one?
Sources?
[edit on 20/8/2007 by Mirthful Me]
"Limits to Growth" was commissioned by The Club of Rome, a thinktank of scientists, economists, businesspeople, international civil servants, and politicians from the five continents. The Club began in an informal way at the behest of Aurelio Peccei, an Italian businessperson based in Rome. In 1965, Peccei gave a speech on the dramatic changes taking place in the world, especially relating to science and technology. The speech attracted considerable attention.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
And does that (being Club Of Rome) make him evil? Or heartless? Or without concience?
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
hehehe, your wrong. Its the sign of a lecturer who doesnt agree with you. This does NOT make him bad.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Yeah...laughable...perhaps it was a joke?
Not everyone in the world is deeply serious?
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
wow, you know lecturers cant do that, anyway. Where will the grades be taken off?
Sorry, your not making sense.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Who is Alan Watt?
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Its an organisation...which means it MUST BE EVIL!!!!11!
(according to wacko people, i mean.)
This is the official line regarding the COR - however COR has been repeatedly linked to the Rothschild clan and exactly what Alan Watt said about them - that THEY are behind the global warming push in recent times.
All i can say is that i find he is accused of being a Freemason all over the net by many different people.
But at the VERY least, he IS in Club of Rome, who do have power and influence on world events.
i just dont think a person who is a member of a pro-globalisation organisation should be teaching International Relations. At the very least its a conflict of interest wouldn't you think?
Well, IMO, it makes him a totally inappropriate and unwise choice for a lecturer of International Relations
COR are not the perfect, caring organisation they make themselves out to be. IF they were really concerned with sustainibility, etc then they would remove the barriers currently preventing zero point energy and the like from being released to the public - its all a charade!!
No, its not. Look at it, seriously look at it. It's not right that he pushes his agendas and opinions on his students!! Thats not what teaching is about![/quote[
he is teaching his personal view on international relations. That is EXACTLY what teaching is. A teacher telling his or her experiences to a class. Teaching from a textbook just produces dullards.
Anyway, his agendas? Are you claiming to be psychic?
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umm, no, it was not a joke. My friend was there when he said it and everyone just looked at eachother in disbelief that he had really just said something so stupid.
A bad joke then?
Well, you go tell my friend this. You put yourself in that class and you try to have the guts to question him. You wouldnt do it. No-one would, because you would fear for your grades
I ask questions and challenge my lecturers when i need to. I dont see a need so i wouldnt bother.
its a nomral reaction to questioning/challenging your teacher. its a simple truth. Whether they have the power to do it or not is irrelevant.
Pfff, its not normal. its cowardly with no basis in real life.
Do some research, he has been researcher for MANY years. Very well known in the research community and to many ATS members.
hmph, ive only ever seen what he said above, and i dont like/trust him already.
Oh, if you're going to label people "wacko" who think outside the square, look beyond mainstream media for their information and consider possibilities which Sheeple never would, then i think you should leave ATS and never return. IMO - you've just insulted every person on here
Hehehe, so im insulting people because i have different views?
Sorry...someone needs to learn about Tolerance
Anyway, Mainstream media? I get the stories from my sister who is in the buisness.
Every time people slag off the mainstream media i get annoyed because i know its not true.
You telling me to leave is just moronic. Simply because if people like me wernt here all you people would do is blindly believe any conspiracy put forward.
You using the term 'sheeple' just shows how arrogent you really are. That term is used when conspiracy wackos feel they are better than everyone else.
I consider the world frequently. These organisations which everyone here touts is part of the NWO just cant exist. The plans you attribute to them are far too complicated to be regulated by any single agency.
Even if they do exist, they have nowhere near the power you believe them to be.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
So the Club of Rome has that wonderfully noble goal (not sarcasm) but is only REPORTED to have links with The Rothschild (boo hiss etc *rolls eyes*)
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
I would prefer to have a lecturer who actuall has an influence on world politics.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Anyway, his agendas? Are you claiming to be psychic?
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Pfff, its not normal. its cowardly with no basis in real life.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
hmph, ive only ever seen what he said above, and i dont like/trust him already.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Hehehe, so im insulting people because i have different views?
Sorry...someone needs to learn about Tolerance
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
You telling me to leave is just moronic. Simply because if people like me wernt here all you people would do is blindly believe any conspiracy put forward.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Even if they do exist, they have nowhere near the power you believe them to be.
i dont think we are going to get signed affidavits from those involved, so until then all links will be 'reported' until the horse's mouth starts to talk.
its just wrong and i wont change my mind on this point.
seriously? how do i NOT prove this? when did you last see Energy Australia advertising its Telsa-technology and zero point energy plan?? Sorry, but proof is certainly not needed on this.
he admits he is pro-globalisation and he admits to his COR membership. He debates with students the virtues of globaisation based on HIS beliefs
"Limits to Growth" was commissioned by The Club of Rome, a thinktank of scientists, economists, businesspeople, international civil servants, and politicians from the five continents. The Club began in an informal way at the behest of Aurelio Peccei, an Italian businessperson based in Rome. In 1965, Peccei gave a speech on the dramatic changes taking place in the world, especially relating to science and technology. The speech attracted considerable attention.
Rolling eye bull#
i know this isn't an arguement, but really.
No, you're insulting people by calling them wacko. yes, thats an insult, and no, i wont have tolerance for that. Coming onto ATS and yelling 'wacko' from the rooftops is a prime example of intolernace actually.
but you coming here and insulting people as wackos and morons and asking for proof isnt an argument or debate doesnt add anything of value to this community.
you have given me nothing except empty disagreement.
proof?
Originally posted by Shar_Chi
Just for some perspective, the Club of Rome does actually exist. It has pioneered the sustainable environment agenda since the early 70s and can be considered a leading proponent of such ideas, so linking them to the Global Warming thinktank is not too much of a stretch imo.
Octavius, this tit-for-tat type of banter isnt really contributing anything of substance to this thread.
But the manner in which you have conducted yourself isn't really in the spirit of ATS.
i mean that it is very easy to say "where's the proof" to everything and then give no real counter argument on which an educated debate can ensue.
you have attempted to attack me and claim i am a wacko and a moron and used purely myself as a source
There is no doubt that COR exists, that Suter said he is a member himself and that he is a lecturer - how much more real can this topic get???
When i say bring something to the table, provide something which we can truely discuss, you throw some comment about reading through "every single site concerned with the NWO" and how everything from anti smoking laws to new ID cards gets attributed to the NWO - well that's fine, you can think that. But what did it have to do with the COR and this topic?
Thanks for the contribution, but i'm over being called moronic, wacko and whatever other insults you threw in there.
Perhpas Suter has an opinion on this. I have no doubt he does. Damn, REALLY wish i could get in that lecture room!
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