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But what if our visitors did not experience Time as linear, as flowing, the way we do? From a certain Past, through the Present, towards an unknown Future?
Originally posted by Spartannic
it may seem far fetched but i once saw a episode of star trek where they found a planet who was in a time dilation field causing the planet to experience time alot faster then us. Maybe someway someone found a way to put a simmiliar field around a spacecraft causing the whole area within the field going slower then the normal rate. In this way the whole universe could be going at the normal timerate but inside the ship they would have a slower timerate causing the distance to be irrelevant to time.
Originally posted by merka
I envision simply jumping into a dimension where time doesnt exist. Jumping out would mean you specify a location (ie the locations you're at) AND time, in order to "match" yourself back in our dimension.
Time travel and space travel solved in one big swoop
Originally posted by Bhadhidar
To insist that without a "flow of time" "nothing would happen" is to fail to percieve that likewise, "everything" would be happening at the SAME Time!
Think of it this way:
Take a pad of paper and draw a series of images, one on each page, such that when you thumbed through the pages, the images would form an object apparently in motion.
This is one of the favored past-times of bored school-kids.
If we were to think of each page as a moment in time, then as we flip through the pages we would see the effect of each moment of time flickering into our perception of it.
And, perceiving this progression of images, we might conclude that "something was happening" to the image we were perceiving: it moves.
In "reality", each image on each page is not moving. As we would perceive if we were to examine any single image on its own. By doing so, we would effectively be "stopping Time" for that particular image.
But suppose our Alien friends did not percive Time As we do.
Suppose that for Them, their perception of reality was that of the pad itself and all the images drawn on it at once, as a whole; no flipping required. Suppose their minds allowed them to, therefore, "pick and chose" which images to interact with, and in any order, or at any "flipping speed" (Oops! Another pun!) they chose.
It's a slippery concept to get one's mind around, to be sure.
Consider; if you propose that without Time, movement would be impossible, and this is demostrated by the flipping of the pad's pages, then
What happens to Time while the pad sits on the tabletop?
Originally posted by DamnDirtyApe
You can't go outside the box and ignore nature if you are a component of nature. A page in the book can't suddenly not be a page, and instead be a human who decides to jump ahead.
Originally posted by stumason
Alot of people here claiming that such things are impossible seem to be stuck in the old 3/4 dimensional way of thinking. May I suggest you read up on the latest theories.
Science is currently operating on their being at least several more dimensions and research done by some scientists has, theoretically, postulated that travel through "hyperspace" could be possible.
It is somewhat egotistical to assume that our comprehension, Human comprehension, of what is and isn't "Real" and/or "Possible" is in any way THE absolute end of the arguemant.