i wached disney movies as a child, and i think that it theaches us that nothing is forever, includeing our familys, and that every thing dies in the end...
MAN!! now i had disney,LOL
but still, at least our children will be emotonless,HEHEHE
i kinda like the idea of gong out and playing, combpared to the sit down and movie, you make more friends going out and doing stuff, unless your like me and walk a hlaf mile to play xbox at my friends house, HAHAHA

Very little of disney's work is original, most of it is based off traditional fairy tales, myths and other stories that have existed well before disney did, they are just remaking it all, and making it far more suitable for children then the original story.

And people love a good conspiracy theory, and will try and see whatever they want to see. I admit that it is very possible, even probably that a lot of the animators may have snuck in a few things for their own amusement.

But disney are there to entertain, and maybe deal with a few issues existing within society, by exagerating or using cliche's a broader audience can relate to it.

But it also comes down to the fact that Disney and TV are not the parents of your children. Its up to parents to teach their children what is right and wrong and how the world works, Parents need to take responsability. This is no different from people blaming video games for violence. We really need to put things in perspective and take a little responsibility for our own actions.

Ps. World War 2 Propaganda cartoons were hilarious

People discuss this NOT because they like a good conspiracy theory.

They discuss it because the manipulation you are unaware of is the most effective.

Disney has obvious trends in its films, with a lack of parents being at the top of the list. Look at the life of young Bobby Driscolll. He played the voice of Peter Pan, and was in some other Disney motion pictures as a boy.

Supposedly, Disney loved him. Not in a healthy way either, because by age 17 the kid was a methamphetamine addict, and committed suicide (or drug overdose) at 31.

Disney has A LOT of occult messages in their movies, such as was mentioned with Pinocchio holding out his right and left hands for Right and Wrong, and Pocahontas going to the Earth Tree (or whatever) and it telling her "The right path is not always the easiest one."

No, of course not, any 'good' occultist tells you the left-hand path is easiest!

Oh for Pete's sake people! Children's stories has always been full of supernatural themes...look back through the past at children's stories...

I know, Disney is horrible

I don't let my little boy anywhere near disney or cartoon network - he's a Discovery Kid

Koala Brothers : "we're here to help!"

The Savons

The Rubber dubbers!

My wife and I have long thought disney to be way too violent - We had to take my son out of the theatre when we took him to see finding nemo - he was traumatised... and still has an irrational fear of sharks.

You see disney content is more appropriate for early teens, but they want the money from the little kids as well, the trouble is to cater for the early teens they need to add the blood and guts... this is at the expense of the little kids...

Just like the Disney PR goon that was here before said: Disney is a company that relies on making money.

Originally posted by James the Lesser
Hmmm, Grimm Brothers? Where the mother forces the father to kill the kids, but he loves them to much so lets them loose in the woods, they are taken in by a cannabil, they kill her, then kill the parents. Wow, great fairy tale.

you are a dumbass btw.

the Grimm Brothers tales are traditional german tales, wrote onto paper by them. (not made by them)

I have said it before (maybe even on this thread) and I will probably have to say it again, but if Disney is teaching your kids anything, you are not doing your job as a parent.

Originally posted by mwm1331
All I can say is that most of you people have obviously never read the original childrens stories. Take a look at the original Grimm Brothers fairy tales. The fact is most of disneys cartoons were based off those stories and the orignals were far more horrific. The simple fact is that allmost all childrens stories have ths type of theme and if you think disney is bad you have never read the real thing.

I agree my grandma often told me traditional german tales, as example "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood), where a girl tells to a wolfe where her grandma lives, and he then first kills the grandma and eats her, then dresses up as her, rapes the girl, when she comes to grandma and then eats her also, in the end the Hunter kills the wolfe, and finds the dead bodies in him, as the hunter is slashing the wolfe.

Originally posted by CarrierAnomaly
Did any of you see the Lizzie McGuire Movie? I did... don't ask...
[Edited on 1/15/2004 by CarrierAnomaly]

haven't seen the movie but she is one fine piece of ass

Originally posted by countbrakula23
I know, Disney is horrible

You know what's horrible.
The picture under your name!

It screws my entire page layout up.
;+)

Anyways, disney is converting pretty gruesome stories into a sweeter and nicer version for little kids, but I guess for some a story can never be seeet and nice enough...

Wodan, calling me a dumbass is against the ATS rules.

Also, they are stories about how a couple of kids are suppose to be killed for the money, but dad just dumps them off in the woods, they are kidnapped by a cannibal, they kill the cannibal, then go home and kill their parents. lovely story.

Anyways, Japanese Anime kicks ASS! Love that stuff. Chobits, GHost in the Shell(both the movies and the show) Armitage the Third isn't to bad either, usually have better story lines then American movies/shows. Hell, Sailor Moon original is pretty good to, but when you American Edit it(or any) japanese anime you get garbage. Hate American edited, thank you for Adult Swim on Saturdays.

the Japanese DICIPLINE THEIR CHILDREN. We allow too much "free expression" with them goths and punks and all them. The japanese crack down on self destructive/negative behavior early on.

thats why Anime doesnt mess them up like our media messes the most of us up ^_^

BTW, Full Metal Alchemist is also a great anime.
try Gundam while you're at it. Kinda anti-UN/US in tone intially though, least thats how i saw it.

[edit on 15-2-2005 by ZetaGundam007]

Gundam sucks, hate every single version of it. There's what? 4? 5? of them?

Anyways, Full Metal is alright, but still like Chobits better, Witch Hunter Robin isn't to bad either, but still Love the Vampire Hunter D movies.

lol, theres like, dozens of gundam. but its ok that you dont like it, kinda suits a very particular set of tastes.

anyone wanna post a pic of the disney subliminal messages? such as the lion king dust one? or the little mermade castle one?

about: teletubbies...

one of my little sisters friends had a teletubbie talking doll... It was a Tinky Winky doll... What kind of a name is tinky winky? when you press its stomach or something it says its name so fast that it sounds like Teeny Weeny. Teletubbies promote gayness in a way I have never seen except with barnie. I would never let my kids watch either of those shows (or any disney shows for that matter) because I feal They teach kids the wrong things. As manny of you have said, Girls are helpless untill their prince comes along in all disney movies.

any of you ever watched the rescuers? there's a picture of a naked lady on a wall in one of the frames. I didn't know untill I found out on the internet. But lamagraa is the one that told me about the penis palace on the cover of the little mermaid.

Originally posted by ZetaGundam007
lol, theres like, dozens of gundam. but its ok that you dont like it, kinda suits a very particular set of tastes.

Gundam, bah...Macross forever!!!

Seriously though I remember watching Bambi when I was a kid..horrible stuff when the mom is killed, I cried and cried. What's that supposed to teach? Even if your mother gets blown away by hunters life is peachy?

I don't know if this was mentioned already or not, as I did not read the thread, but there are literally pictures of things like vaginas and naked women embedded in Disney films (many classic films). Don't believe Disney as being some good honest company and all that; they put a lot of sexual stuff right into their films that the subconcious would pick up on.

Rock a Bye baby is the story of an Infant crashing through the branches of a tree.

Ring around the rosy is the song children would sing after they buried their parents, from the plague during the black death 500 years ago.

red riding hood, hansel and gretal, etc, are children fables, and pretty violent, cannabilist, fatalistic, etc, But they contain reflections of reality.


Life is Violent. the fact is most of the time its Providence watching over us that allows us to make it though. We have an imagined and Rosey view of the world. We are lucky, truly lucky that there has not been cataclismic environmental changes in the earth, as was common thousands of years ago. Maybe one day that will change. The tsanamis in indonesia as bad as they were, are nothing compared to events less than 15,000 years ago.

Nature is prey and predator. we have constructed a very sterile fantasy world to live in; safeway brings you meat prepackaged meat, no mess, no fuss. If you want to buy some veggies, you go to the store. No more risking crops, no more praying for rain, or battling locusts. We dont give a second thought to the farmer that lost his crops to floods, we simply buy from the farmer that didnt.
This system will crash one day, no system lasts very long. It will be interesting to see how people cope. I doubt Disney cartoons will be important.