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China, Russia, and Iran agree that America's position as the sole superpower must not go unchallenged, and critics worry about a new arms race.
China, Russia, and Iran agree that America's position as the sole superpower must not go unchallenged, and critics worry about a new arms race.
Have you been to China.. they are known to be highly nationalistic.. and Morale is at the highest as they ever been.. stop reading blindly from the MSM. FYI, They do not need permisson to marry.
Originally posted by DragonsDomain
I think a lot of people here drastically overestimate China.
Yes, I will admit they are a powerful nation and would pose a considerable enemy in a war.
But China has a lot of problems too. The country's morale is rock bottom, due to the countrie's iron rule. They even have to gain permission from the state to get married.
You mean China is defenseless ? And your Geograhy lessons is crap... there are quite a huge few rivers, because they grow rice which requires plenty water.
Their immense population is also their downfall. I remember once during a geography lesson being told that the majority of their countrie's food is grown along the same river. I have no doubt that America's battlehardened air force could succeed in taking out China's agriculture, and the vast population would starve. (Some others on here may disagree with me).
Of course, America has fought more wars than any other in this world... but has US fought any strong country ?
Just my thoughts. In my opinion the US military are better trained, and by faaaar more experienced that the Chinese military.
Originally posted by blowfishdl
With a potential World War 3 looming in the future, will China be on our side? All I can say about that is "Let's hope so."
*** EXCLUSIVE *** MUST CREDIT HALTURNERSHOW.COM
Chinese Defense Minister Gives Speech About WAR plans against the United States
Says China can only afford to wait another 5 to 10 years before being forced to attack to gain "living space"
August 12, 2005
By: Hal Turner
(Update, August 24, 2005 -- This story is NOT Satire or presented for "shock value." It is real.)
Chi Haotian, China's Minister of Defense and vice-chairman of China's Central Military Commission, gave the following speech in a SECURE BRIEFING to his military leadership.
It was not intended for public dissemination. It was obtained by The Hal Turner Show via covert means through contacts in Shanghai, China.
Defense Minster Chi Haotian
Comrades,
I'm very excited today, because the large-scale online survey sina.com that was done for us showed that our next generation is quite promising and our Party's cause will be carried on. In answering the question, "Will you shoot at women, children and prisoners of war," more than 80 percent of the respondents answered in the affirmative, exceeding by far our expectations
...
As everybody knows, the essence of Comrade Xiaoping's thinking is development is the hard truth. And Comrade Jintao has also pointed out repeatedly and empathetically that development is our top priority ... The fact is, our "development" refers to the great revitalization of the Chinese nation, which, of course, is not limited to the land we have now but also includes the whole world.
As everybody knows, according to the views propagated by the Western scholars, humanity as a whole originated from one single mother in Africa. Therefore, no race can claim racial superiority. However, according to the research conducted by most Chinese scholars, the Chinese are different from other races on earth. We did not originate in Africa. Instead, we originated independently in the land of China.
Hitler's Germany had once bragged that the German race was the most superior race on Earth, but the fact is, our nation is far superior to the Germans.
Our Chinese people are wiser than the Germans because, fundamentally, our race is superior to theirs. As a result, we have a longer history, more people, and larger land area. On this basis, our ancestors left us with the two most essential heritages, which are atheism and great unity. It was Confucius, the founder of our Chinese culture, who gave us these heritages.
The first issue is living space. This is the biggest focus of the revitalization of the Chinese race. In my last speech, I said that the fight over basic living resources (including land and ocean) is the source of the vast majority of wars in history. This may change in the information age, but not fundamentally....The second issue is our focus on the leadership capacity of the ruling party...What is the third issue we should clinch firmly in order to accomplish our historical mission of national renaissance? It is to hold firmly onto the big "issue of America."
This appears to be shocking, but the logic is actually very simple... Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization... I sometimes think how cruel it is for China and the United States to be enemies that are bound to meet on a narrow road! It is historical destiny that China and United States will come into unavoidable confrontation on a narrow path and fight each other! The United States, unlike Russia and Japan, has never occupied and hurt China, and also assisted China in its battle against the Japanese. But, it will certainly be an obstruction, and the biggest obstruction! In the long run, the relationship of China and the United States is one of a life-and-death struggle.
The hidden message is: we must put up with America; we must conceal our ultimate goals, hide our capabilities and await the opportunity. In this way, our mind is clear. Why have we not updated our national anthem with something peaceful? Why did we not change the anthem's theme of war? Instead, when revising the Constitution this time, for the first time we clearly specified "March of the Volunteers" is our national anthem. Thus we will understand why we constantly talk loudly about the "Taiwan issue" but not the "American issue." We all know the principle of "doing one thing under the cover of another." If ordinary people can only see the small island of Taiwan in their eyes, then you as the elite of our country should be able to see the whole picture of our cause.
Only by using special means to "clean up" America will we be able to lead the Chinese people there. This is the only choice left for us. This is not a matter of whether we are willing to do it or not. What kind of special means is there available for us to "clean up" America? Conventional weapons such as fighters, canons, missiles and battleships won't do; neither will highly destructive weapons such as nuclear weapons. We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons, despite the fact that we have been exclaiming that we will have the Taiwan issue resolved at whatever cost. Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves. There has been rapid development of modern biological technology, and new bio weapons have been invented one after another. Of course we have not been idle; in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind. We are capable of achieving our purpose of "cleaning up" America all of a sudden. When Comrade Xiaoping was still with us, the Party Central Committee had the perspicacity to make the right decision not to develop aircraft carrier groups and focus instead on developing lethal weapons that can eliminate mass populations of the enemy country.
From a humanitarian perspective, we should issue a warning to the American people and persuade them to leave America and leave the land they have lived in to the Chinese people. Or at least they should leave half of the United States to be China's colony, because America was first discovered by the Chinese.
As for the several million Chinese living in the United States, this is of course a big issue. Therefore in recent years, we have been conducting research on genetic weapons, i.e. those weapons that do not kill yellow people. But producing a result with this kind of research is extremely difficult. Of the research done on genetic weapons throughout the world, the Israeli's is the most advanced. Their genetic weapons are designed to target Arabs and protect the Israelis. But even they have not reached the stage of actual deployment. We have cooperated with Israel on some research. Perhaps we can introduce some of the technologies used to protect Israelis and remold these technologies to protect the yellow people. But their technologies are not mature yet, and it is difficult for us to surpass them in a few years. If it has to be five or ten years before some breakthroughs can be achieved in genetic weapons, we cannot afford to wait any longer.
Old comrades like us cannot afford to wait that long, for we don't have that much time to live. Old soldiers of my age may be able to wait for five or ten more years, but those from the period of the Anti-Japanese War or the few old Red Army soldiers cannot wait any longer. Therefore we have to give up our expectations about genetic weapons. Of course, from another perspective, the majority of those Chinese living in the United States have become our burden, because they have been corrupted by the bourgeois liberal values for a long time and it would be difficult for them to accept our Party's leadership. If they survived the war, we would have to launch campaigns in the future to deal with them, to reform them.
It is indeed brutal to kill one or two hundred million Americans. But that is the only path that will secure a Chinese century, a century in which the CCP leads the world. We, as revolutionary humanitarians, do not want deaths. But if history confronts us with a choice between deaths of Chinese and those of Americans, we'd have to pick the latter, as, for us, it is more important to safeguard the lives of the Chinese people and the life of our Party. That is because, after all, we are Chinese and members of the CCP. Since the day we joined the CCP, the Party’s life has always been above all else! History will prove that we made the right choice.
Now, when I am about to finish my speech, you probably understand why we conducted this online survey. Simply put, through conducting this online survey we wanted to know whether the people would rise against us if one day we secretly adopt resolute means to "clean up" America. Would more people support us or oppose us? What turned out to be very comforting is they did not turn in a blank test paper. In fact, they turned in a test paper with a score of over 80%. This is the excellent fruition of our Party's work in propaganda and education over the past few decades.
HALTURNERSHOW.COM
If you get on the website using key words to search, you will find out that a while ago, comrade He Xin pointed out to the Hong Kong Business News during an interview that: "The US has a shocking conspiracy." According to what he had in hand, from September 27 to October 1, 1995, the Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbach Foundation, funded by the United States, gathered 500 of the world's most important statesmen, economic leaders and scientists, including George W. Bush (he was not the US president at the time), the Baroness Thatcher, Tony Blair, Zbigniew Brzezinski, as well as George Soros, Bill Gates, futurist John Naisbitt, etc., all of the world's most popular characters, in the San Francisco Fairmont hotel for a high-level round table conference, discussing problems about globalization and how to guide humanity to move forward into the 21st century. According to what He Xin had in hand, the outstanding people of the world in attendance thought that in the 21st century a mere 20% of the world's population will be sufficient to maintain the world's economy and prosperity, the other 80% or 4/5 of the world's population will be human garbage unable to produce new values. The people in attendance thought that this excess 80% population would be a trash population and "high-tech" means should be used to eliminate them gradually.
Originally posted by mobydog
Have you been to China.. they are known to be highly nationalistic.. and Morale is at the highest as they ever been.. stop reading blindly from the MSM. FYI, They do not need permisson to marry.
Of course, America has fought more wars than any other in this world... but has US fought any strong country ?
Internet archive of HALTURNER web-blog
Monday, August 15, 2005 3:14 PM EDT
CHINA OUSTS DEFENSE MINISTER!
ABRUPT CHANGE MAY BE DUE TO REVELATIONS OF A SPEECH HE GAVE DETAILING CHINA'S SECRET WAR PLANS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES!
Just days ago, this web site published remarks made by Chi Haotian, China's Minister of Defense and vice-chairman of China�s Central Military Commission, which outlined horrific war planning by China against the United States. Tens-of-Thousands of Internet users worldwide read the text of that speech which is still available lower on this page as a story titled "CHINA'S MINISTER OF DEFENSE LAYS OUT WAR PLANS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES!"
Today, The Hal Turner Show has learned China has replaced Chi Haotian with General Cao Gangchuan of the People's Liberation Army (PLA)
While it presently cannot be confirmed that Chi Haotian was replaced for revealing China's secret war plans, it is clear he has been replaced.
If the war plans attributed to Chi Haotian were FALSE, there would be no reason to replace him. The fact he has been replaced indicates to ME that Haotian slipped-up in a huge way. Why else would a long-time Communist Party member and key, high-ranking military official, be summarily replaced as both Minister of Defense and Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission in such an abrupt manner like this?
Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
Personally, if you take nuclear missiles out of the equation, which i know is hard to do but do it anyway, i think China would eventually crush the US. The US military has been shown to be severly flawed in Iraq, in training, leadership and even it's mighty weapons systems.
China hs an enourmous populaiton and would basically have an endless stream of forces where as alot of people in Ameirca are illegal immigrants so wouldn't even be on file to be enlisted.
Chinas production ability would outstrip the US hugely. I sort of look at the Germans invasion of Russia. Better trained, better equipped troops but time played the vital role, as long as China survived any inital onslaught on it's infrastructure and government offices, it would eventually prevail.
[edit on 17-8-2007 by Peruvianmonk]
[edit on 17-8-2007 by Peruvianmonk]