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Originally posted by Dr Love
Or does this all fall under the "War On Terror" which need be approved only once and is evergreen?
Peace
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
Art. 1 Sec. 8
(b) Under article I, section 8, of the Constitution, it is specifically
provided that the Congress shall have the power to make all laws necessary
and
proper for carrying into execution, not only its own powers but also all
other
powers vested by the Constitution in the Government of the United States, or
in any department or officer thereof.
source - War Powers Resolution of 1973 Sec. 2 (b)
(b) Within sixty calendar days after a report is submitted or is required
to be submitted pursuant to section 4(a)(1), whichever is earlier, the
President shall terminate any use of Untied States Armed Forces with respect
to which such report was submitted (or required to be submitted), unless the
Congress (1) has declared war or has enacted a specific authorization for
such
use of United States Armed Forces,
source - War Powers Resolution of 1973 Sec. 5 (b)
Originally posted by passenger
Yes, Infoholic, except that the War Powers Act itself is extra-Constitutional.
To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against
those responsible for the recent attacks launched against
the United States.
source
SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
source
Originally posted by Dr Love
Are the rules different if we goad the Iranians into declaring war on us?
Originally posted by Infoholic
However, Congress did pass the law that allowed such acts by the President. Which is where we find the fault for the ongoing fighting in Iraq, today. I refer to it as "fighting" since an official declaration of war was never authorized by Congress. What Congress did, was reauthorize an act in accordance with this resolution.
Originally posted by passenger
Constitution of th United States, Article I, Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power...To Declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captives on Land and Water."
The War in Iraq is completely UN-Constitutional. Any War with Iran or reprisal against said, must be ordained by Congress.
But, seeing as Bush already got away with it once and Congress seems to regard the Constitution as merely as set of guidelines-it will probably happen the same way.
[edit on 15-8-2007 by passenger]
Originally posted by section8citizen
I am not so sure that this is a completely accurate statement anymore. It USED to be that way. However I am pretty sure that once they are labeled as "terrorist" the rules change drastically.
Originally posted by passenger
So, where does the Constitution give the right to make rules and circumvent itself in the case of "terrorism"?
All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
Every order, resolution, or vote to which the concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the same shall take effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the rules and limitations prescribed in the case of a bill.
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.