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The Masonic Pinecone?

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posted on Sep, 1 2007 @ 03:36 PM
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posted on Sep, 1 2007 @ 03:40 PM
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Pine cone at the Vatican




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posted on Sep, 1 2007 @ 04:14 PM
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The first image provided above is what I think of when I hear "master mason".

Hopefully such a spectacle will inspire more endeavors of this nature (no pun intended).

I have nothing but respect for all areas of masonry, but it's high time we get past the hasty temples and urban sprawl, and start sharing the proverbial wealth with the entire community in some areas.

I, for one, have had more than enough share of the overdomination of boxes and cubes.

One good park can do wonders for the collective psyche and pride of a entire community.



posted on Sep, 16 2007 @ 04:47 AM
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just a bump, i think this thread should be kept alive for a bit longer as it does seem to contain alot of great insights into many things simply from one symbolic piece of nature, spiral out keep going



posted on Sep, 16 2007 @ 04:57 AM
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Pinecone....This is a direct reference to the sacred mushroom Amanita muscaria . (Wikipedia link) This mushroom grows under pine trees, and is the basis of many religious ceremonys through time, especialy the Vatican they all dress up like this Mushroom. The Mushroom is the Key to understanding many questions and puzzles.

There is much reserch that can be found on this mushroom.This mushroom fills our culture hidden in plain sight. When consumed properly It creates a '___' reaction (or something close to it)that opens the third eye, or pin-EA-L gland. It is the "Gate to God"and the Cadeuseus is a symbol of the Mushroom as well. It is knowledge that only Amenita can open the third eye. Supposedly the reaction attained is close to the reaction the pineal gland makes when you are born, as well as when you die the third eye opens. So this is what they mean by being born again.

The hanging pinecone is telling you something. This symbol is showing you under the pine tree you will find the secret mushroom, the fruit of the Gods..
Hope this info helps.
DWT

Pharmacratic Inquisition learn this info

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posted on Sep, 16 2007 @ 07:39 AM
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I've always heard that psycodelic mushrooms grow under cow piles. Is that not true Dntwstime?



posted on Sep, 16 2007 @ 08:26 AM
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I believe You are refering to the Psylocibe mushroom that does emit a psychadelic effect, it emits a chemical unique to anything on earth.. this is the mushroom Shiva is modeled after. In some paintings Shiva is displayed with mushrooms in her hands. Shiva is blue as the psylocibe is.The cow is also sacred in India because it produces the mushroom of the gods.
The Sacred Amenita Mushroom is the Mushroom that grows under the pine tree. It is literaly the christmas present of the pagan societys gathered in winter.They picked and dried them by finding a central tree and hanging the shroom on it, as well as hanging the shroom in a stocking over the fire to dry out overnight.
With some reserch, and by watching the above posted video one might find this is the secret of the masonic pinecone symbol.

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posted on Sep, 16 2007 @ 11:14 AM
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Thanks for posting the video.

I will watch it and add my comments later.



posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 04:01 AM
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just a bump since i found this to be a good thread. anyone have anything else to add?



posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 05:34 AM
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Well since this thread came about I have been looking everywhere for the Amenita Mascaria Mushroom and may have found one but am not sure. Not that I was going to consume it are anything, I just wanted to see one. I found a red one but it didn't have any white dots on it. It was just about as big around as a half dollar and and maybe 3 inches tall. I have talked to people who have done the mushrooms you can find under cow piles but thats about it. They didn't seem to have any visions are anything just a lot of laughs.

I was wondering if the use of mushrooms today is still a valid practice or is it something of a by-gone era.



posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 06:12 AM
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Most definety still influential. Look at the mushroom from super mario brothers. Amenita. The way to use the mushroom is to eat the mushroom, the stomach creates a chemical reaction with the Amenita creating mucimol. Then the high priest collects his post amenita ingested urine, Then he drinks the "holy water" and the third eye opens and he is born again. Finding Amenita is late in the year, that is why they are the christmas present. The cow shroom Psylocibe creates the chemical hydroxyl-4 unique on earth. The combination of the 2 musrooms is the red white and blue America Amenita see the connection?the red white mushroom and the blue mushroom.This is some cryptic stuff I know.

Moses talks about the manna growing in the dew in Exodus I believe. The manna is the mushroom, he tells all to gather the manna in the morning from the dew covered grass.

Also this mushroom is the sun below, A person in the bible asks god where he can be found. He says "If you split a log there I will be."not sure the exact spot in the bible where this is.
EYE Dont waste time


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posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 06:33 AM
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I really liked the video you posted. I have heard some things here and there regarding the mushroom, particularly the red and white one influencing many of the common traditions.

I also heard alot of things for the first time and that is always nice.

I am glad I watched it.

"What a long strange trip its' been" Grateful Dead



posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 12:16 AM
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posted on Jun, 25 2008 @ 12:40 AM
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Thats definitely Masonic I definitely go with what DrPaulisENKI said. Look at the octagon shapes surrounding it, looks very Qabbalistic/Ritualistic in nature.

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posted on Jan, 2 2009 @ 03:37 AM
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I've come to strongly suspect that the tiny pine cone pineal gland in the middle of the human brain is a spiritual transmission and receiving device capable of transluminal communication, and thus, containing content, largely through dreams, which have the farthest reaching cosmological spieritual implications.

I also think that there is a great universal controversy regarding the issue of spiritual authority, one which the Masons have fallen victim to in their rejection and/or bypassing of the spiritual authority of Jesus Christ the ultimate illumined master who performed the Magnum Opus of the ages in both death, and in spiritual resurrection. So it's no wonder they are involved in wicked things and often will have debased personality disorders, since they may open the eye, then fall victim to the evil one.



posted on Jan, 7 2009 @ 03:17 PM
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heres a good article regarding the post on manna and moses in regards to the psilocybin variety of mushroom found usually on cow patties

deoxy.org...

also in regards to the post mentioning consuming the amanita mushroom one must not forget that if one is to consume this mushroom it must be properly prepared which and dont qoute me involves baking the mushroom first which reduces much of the toxic affects but i do not advise anyone to do this as this mushroom can be quite deadly and also the person who found the red mushroom, its not an amanita, theres another variety of red poisonus mushroom that lacks the white dots and is much smaller in size roughly about the size mentioned. i suggest anyone interested in finding out more about the pinecone should pick up a copy of a book titled '___' the spirit molocule and pay attention to who funded the study.



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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Awesome thread I must say. The connections of the pineal gland, the pine cone, and '___' used in religions, traditions, and even symbolically in freemasonry today is amazing. Also about the Thyrsus of Bacchus(Dionysus), I can see the relationship between the pinecone at the top relating to the pineal gland. Dionysus' worshipers would go into a frenzied state trying to become like Dionysus. Dionysus was supposedly a God who was born of a mortal woman and so lived on earth among humans (lots of connections between him and Jesus too) and unlike the other Gods Dionysus liked interacting with humans. He was the God of wine, ecstasy, and sex, and represented release from the physical world. Another interesting thing about him is the fact that he was "twice born" first as Zagreus and then a second time as Dionysus.



posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 08:35 PM
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The phallus is also a highly important element, perhaps much more so than mushrooms (which are still dubious, IMO). It's a shame that this topic is rarely broached in a serious manner, as it obviously held an important place in the Mysteries.

For instance, Hermes, the god who holds the caduceus, was symbolized by an ithyphallus. Attis, you may recall, castrated himself on a pine tree. And on and on it goes.

"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."

I will refrain from saying more not to be deliberately obtuse, but merely because I cannot be sure of the real significance myself.

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posted on Jan, 13 2009 @ 08:43 PM
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I do not know about Masons. However in the early Sumerian carvings, the Annunaki can be seen carrying a pine cone in one hand and a lunch bucket in the other.



posted on Jan, 14 2009 @ 12:56 AM
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Here's a bit more about Dionysus' relation with the pineal gland if we can make that connection:
"In their final phase the Mysteries apparently shifted from a chthonic, primeval orientation to a transcendental, mystical one, with Dionysus altering his nature accordingly (much in the same way as happened in the cult of Shiva, Dionysos' eastern counterpart, according to some). Other scholars see these Mysteries, with their resurrected god and secret knowledge about the afterlife, as the precursor of the Eleusinian Mysteries, Orphic Mysteries, Gnosticism and Early Christianity. "
-en.wikipedia.org...

Hermes was a psychopomp (escorts of the dead to the underworld) and he also was said to bring dreams (pineal gland brings dreams at night because of the release of '___'). He is related with the phallus also, but wasn't originally. Over time the phallus, a symbol of luck and even magic, was ascribed to him for unknown reasons, possibly in relation to crossing boundaries, which Hermes was the God of.

The relations with the phallus, light, life, and the sun go way back to the very earliest evidence of man. However, in a few stray myths the sun is personified by a female, I will have to research some more to come to a conclusion on that. May not mean anything, or it may mean a lot.

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