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The HTV-3X Hypersonic Test Vehicle




Topic started on 14-8-2007 @ 08:06 AM by satcom


I find this all rather interesting. I am curious to others thoughts on this.

HTV-3X Link


I give it at least 7 years before we see it doing taxi tests.



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reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 11:16 AM by Canada_EH


has the look of the X-33 a bit don't it.
Its a neat article so I'm going to help you out a bit with some quotes and pic's.

[edit on 22/08/06 by Canada_EH]



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reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 11:23 AM by Canada_EH








Rather, it depicts HTV-3X, a new addition to a family of hypersonic test vehicles that has tended to lose and gain members since Falcon got started. HTV-3X, though, is by far the most ambitious member of the HTV clan, and although opinions clearly are varied as to the feasible timescale for the project, it could get a real hypersonic aircraft flying long before the B-52-sized HCV.

It's also the demonstrator that has been described as the lead-in to a new reconnaissance/strike aircraft nicknamed SR-72. For the moment, though, it's a proposal struggling for attention and money.


By the way the original thread on Aviation Week is SR-71 revealed. Is this what people where talking about? To me the SR-72 myth that flew around had very little hard details so really it could of been anything so this could fit.



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reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 12:07 PM by gfad


It looks pretty interesting.

Note the Skunkworks logo on the wings of the first image so this is clearly a Lockheed project funded by DARPA.

It also bears a definate resemblance to this patent concept that Northrop Grumman submitted in 1994:




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reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 12:10 PM by Canada_EH


If i remeber correctly that patent was what turned into the gruman and boeing submission for the JSF contest the X-32.



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reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 12:14 PM by gfad


Northrop didnt make a submission for the Joint Strike Fighter program. The X-32 was a Boeing aircraft.



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reply posted on 17-8-2007 @ 05:34 PM by outoftherabbitsfur


Hmm, I think I remember seeing somewhere that people thought that blueprint was the design for the "Aurora."



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reply posted on 17-8-2007 @ 10:35 PM by ShatteredSkies


I doubt anything will come of it. Just like many of the other "X" series hypersonic projects, it may just remain a DARPA study and nothing more.

Shattered OUT...



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reply posted on 17-8-2007 @ 10:43 PM by talon


it is my understanding that hypersonic UAV's have been tested before, think they drop them from B52's



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reply posted on 17-8-2007 @ 10:50 PM by WestPoint23


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Actually the FALCON program, a join venture between the USAF and DARPA will very likely yield a production combat system. The need and objective is there so are the funds and research to back it up. What we have now is a competition for the final HCV design. Once that is chosen we can move on to the CAV design. This is a long term project with an IOC date of ~2025 so progress will be slow, but steady.



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reply posted on 18-8-2007 @ 10:09 AM by ShatteredSkies


I was under the impression that the mentioned design is of a new program of no relation to the original X-43 Falcon.

I did not know this was a combat systems design platform spawned from the research gathered during the X-43 flights.

Shattered OUT...



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reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 07:37 AM by Anonymous ATS


Sorry gang - but this site is looking a dis-informational conspiracy page. In fact what is going on is nothing of what you write, but touches on the outer fringes of interesting topics.
To start, the top photo is of the failed Lockheed/Martin X-33 project; while most of the project did prove that some of the technologies should be explored (and were) further like the aerospike engine, the aero-design, and the heat-reducing materials, what failed and put the kiss of death in the project was the fuel tanks technology (unable to expand and contract due to the tremendous extreme conditions). That said - the bottom photo is a demonstrator vehicle desgined to show incremental progress toward a final vehicle that can demonstrate; "routine air breathing operations in the Mach-5 plus speed regime." Vehicles included the HTV-2. Bids are open for the formerly called HTV-3X, now called the Black Swift. A Hypersonic tailless Mach 5+ global strike vehicle to be added to the US Bomber fleet.



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reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 12:27 PM by intelgurl


Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Sorry gang - but this site is looking a dis-informational conspiracy page. In fact what is going on is nothing of what you write, but touches on the outer fringes of interesting topics.

To start, the top photo is of the failed Lockheed/Martin X-33 project;


No, you are mistakened.

The picture at the top of the linked page is this...



The above model was displayed at DARPATech 2007 at the Anaheim Marriott, it was labelled as the HTV-3, not the X-33 VentureStar. In fact there is only a small resemblance between the Blackswift (HTV-3) and the VentureStar.

The X-33 VentureStar you refer to is pictured below. The VentureStar is a Shuttle/Spaceplane using a aerospike engine. The Blackswift is a hypersonic, suborbital turbo/ramjet hybrid.




Below is another view of the Blackswift concept.




For more on the Blackswift check out: SR-72 Confirmed: Mach 6 Project Blackswift
If you think this thread is too conspiratorial, you're gonna LOVE SR-72 Confirmed: Mach 6 Project Blackswift!!!



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