what is coming sept. 2007?, page 2
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reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 10:42 PM by wrangell76
I know one thing that will be happening without a doubt on 9/11/07...A solar eclipse...I started a thread on this. Here is the link...

www.belowtopsecret.com...

Makes you wonder if something significant is going to happen on that day...I mean come on, what are the chances of a solar eclipse happening on the same day that the world changed forever in a day 6 years ago????



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reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 11:16 PM by damagemouse



reply posted on 14-8-2007 @ 11:37 PM by chaeone86
thanks everyone for writing

to actuallynothing:

You raise a valid concern in addressing this reality. Even if there was a cultural awakening against this unspeakable corruption, the consequence would undoubtedly be some type of instability.

That being acknowledged, I would like to propose that such instability would be preferable to the chaos resulting from a staged terrorist attack of catastrophic proportions. Also, I will remind you that by all indications (eroded civil liberties, power consolidation towards the executive branch, increased employment of mercenary forces unbound to any governing law, etc etc), this event would exist as an objective to a greater mission, a piece to the puzzle.

What we are talking about here is a facist America, a dictatorial dominion over the most powerful force in the world. The destructive potential would dwarf the strength of Nazi Germany in WWII. Earth was irreviserbly scarred by that time of vast genocide, international mobilization of armed force, war, death, and collapse of infrastructure. Now, place your thoughts on the toll of WWII and imagine this toll scaled to the magnitude of American influence and military might. The potential is staggering. If nuclear weapons are a factor, pack your bags now. Its over.

Now I know fully well that many of our international readers are balking at my last statements and expressing a very justified doubt in my assertions about US military power. After all, if we cant get our act together in the middle east, how would we orchestrate a conquest of the globe itself?

Well, it remains true that the American military spending accounts for 2/5ths of defense spending worldwide. And, this country is far ahead of most in terms of training, technology, and overall potential of force. Our nuclear stockpile is vast, and our capabilities in range/precision of delivery and missile self-defense claim no rival. Its certainly not something this citizen is proud of.

Regardless of speculation on a possible "2nd 9/11" the country is slowing locking step on war with Iran.

If war in Iran is achieved, international diplomacy will begin to disintegrate. Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan, a rogue state as it is portrayed. It has very strong ties with many powerful countries, many of them already on the fence about US militarism.

Surrounded by global tension unlike the unilateral support post 9/11, and combined with an aggressive resurgence of patriotism at home, a chain reaction of diplomatic meltdownts would ensue and provide enviroment for large scale conflict. The draft would be inevitable.

Once millions of able Americans are conscripted, the hope of reversing a facist coup of the country is over. The population will fearfully accept the terms and a generation of them would be brainwashed in boot camp and exposed to the unthinkable stress and trauma of open combat. The executive branch will enforce orders 12919/12656 and wield the power of the enitre nation.

To learn more about historical attempts to consolidate the USA under facist rule, research the Business plot. This congressionally investigated scheme was orchestrated by leaders of wall street (Prescott Bush was one of the individuals implicated), and attemped to overthrow FDR by recruiting 500,000 veterans of WWI angry over lack of pay (see: great depression/bonus army). The would be organized under a decorated officer who would lead the army but act as a "figurehead" to policy decisions. The retired officer they approached alerted congress and gave testimony corroborated by other witnesses.


reply posted on 15-8-2007 @ 01:21 AM by Torturer
Reading this thread prompted me to finally register, so good work

Just wanted to ring in on a mostly astute thread about something that has been on my mind as well recently. Surely another world war is in the making here, cooked up by the same old power base and international bankers that start every major conflict in the world. The writing is on the wall, but any armed revolution against the government in the States would be squashed so hard it would be painful to watch happen.

There was a time in the states when the people had the power and the tools to overthrow this power base, and that was in the 1960s. Unfortunately the same group of people who are in charge of America now put a stop to that by assassinating anyone who stood in between the people and the propaganda machine. They learned then, with a few simple parlor tricks, that it's possible to slip anything past the American public.

It seems to me, at this point, that the only path the neo-con cabal that hijacked our government can realistically pursue is to enlarge the middle eastern conflict so that the global military industry can be further scaled up and become even more profitable, and involve more allied countries. It's either that, or engineering another massive depression/recession bust, so that another boom cycle can start up again (that will probably happen regardless).

My bet's on full on world war, because these guys are starting to get the idea that their time in charge might be coming to a close, and their timetables need to be moved up to bring the NWO into full fruition to solidify the power base. In the U.S. they have control of the monetary supply, the military, the intelligence community, the White House, the vote, the oil industry, a majority of the congress and many private military armies and contractors. The politicians are bought and paid for by international corporations, groups of people that collectively have no soul and operate as a psychopath, and those psychopaths are bought and paid for by the international bankers. It's over, they've taken America over, and taken it apart from the inside out, a soft coup orchestrated covertly over 100 years.

Sept. 11th is the most viable day, from the perspective of shifting blame to "the terrorists" again. But another side of me thinks, do these guys even need another attack to take place? For what purpose? They hold all the cards at this point, and they can pre-emptively attack Iran for any reason they want. Just labelling one of their military units "terrorists" means we have the green light to invade, under W's current policies.

The only reason to stage terrorists attacks would be to garner more international sentiment (one reason the Trade Center was the target in 2001) for an invasion of Iran. This would seem to suggest a staged incident where terrorists of Iranian origin are caught red handed in Europe with a nuclear device of some kind. Just framing up a terrorist group supported by Iran caught with a nuke on British, or an allied countries soil would be enough to warrant invasion and use of nukes, would it not?

Sorry for the long first post and hello to the ATS community.

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reply posted on 15-8-2007 @ 04:37 AM by pjslug
Originally posted by damagemouse
Interesting breaking story re: Iran -
www.washingtonpost.com...


The designation of the Revolutionary Guard will be made under Executive Order 13224, which President Bush signed two weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to obstruct terrorist funding. It authorizes the United States to identify individuals, businesses, charities and extremist groups engaged in terrorist activities. The Revolutionary Guard would be the first national military branch included on the list, U.S. officials said -- a highly unusual move because it is part of a government, rather than a typical non-state terrorist organization.

The order allows the United States to block the assets of terrorists and to disrupt operations by foreign businesses that "provide support, services or assistance to, or otherwise associate with, terrorists."


Bush's plan all along was to go after Iran. What I don't understand is why he didn't just do that from the beginning? Iraq meant nothing to us, we didn't need to be there. It has just been a horrible waste of money, time, and lives. Unless of course that they needed a secret location to form a secret army. I agree that something will probably happen here. I have felt that way for a long time. But I don't understand why the delay. If anything, the Iraq situation has put the U.S. in a horrible light to the rest of the world and has completely destroyed the credibility of our military intelligence. It just seems to me that if they wanted to go into Iran (which they probably do), why wouldn't they have done that from the start?

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reply posted on 15-8-2007 @ 05:32 AM by Angry Danish
Thank you! I'm not the only one! Very well written.

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Perhaps, now would be the best time to organize and get a message out to the people. A platform based around peaceful rallies. If we could make enough noise and get exposure, perhaps we could delay - if not prevent something from happening. Would they be willing to attack us if the "Tin Foil Hat Wearing" Conspiracy Theorists were right - when the CIA, FBI and government couldn't predict an attack? If we were attacked then something as simple as that could force people into a paradigm change.

People ARE waking up. I'm witnessing people who vigorously supported Bush a year ago wane and look iffy on issues and even listen to what I have to say when I talk with them. Family members are asking me more about things. The tone online is steadily more uneasy about the current state of the world. Random people I've talked to have heard conspiracy theories and don't shoot me down like they did a year ago when I talk to them (I live in republican country too)... This is the weirdest thing I have ever witnessed in my entire life.

If we talk, people will listen. DO NOT underestimate people, I find myself doing this and am often surprised when I'm wrong.

Any non-peaceful action will create a MASSIVE amount of problems. The country is violently divided into two parties right now (repub/dem)... Many republicans are still watching FOX "News" religously and so anyone opposed to the war or any government action is a terrorist (and probably a democrat if they're American). It's a slippery slope from there.

Without a free or fair media getting a fair shake on any contraversial incidents would be impossible.

Peace is the key.
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