dude immigration comes from the world, not just people of brown color. It is a world community that suffers displacement and mass migration. My family is white and are immigrants at the same time where do I fit in your picture of the evil white man keeping us out of here. These are concerns of citizens of this country, some courtesy goes a long way. There is no need to make race the issue here when it is clearly an issue of the sovereignty of our national borders. not racial purity.

Who aren't I talking about? I'm talking about everyone in this country illegally.

Originally posted by newyorkee
racial accusations will get you no where, thank you but we enjoy a higher realm of thinking, get over the whole race thing, it has no bearing in actual debate, just conjecture. If you truly think that racism is a key factor in immigration policy then begin a new thread and see how long it lasts with an attitude like that. The only purpose this could serve is to de-unify us on an issue that is not related to your quam with race and racial tendencies. We dont need opinions that are not representitive of the minority community as a whole. thank you , but no thanks man.

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look man i'mm not here to make a rqacial issue of this or divide it but the fact of tha matter is when you say illegals who are the first people to come to mind? i'm not trying to speak for anyrace, i dont care about skin color i hate everyone equally "thats a joke BTW" so please understand that when some people begin to talk $H!T i'm not going to just be quiet about it, i dont know anything about you but theres a lot of good people who come here just to feed their families.

see this is evidence of the bad apple, I just want to make the distinction that the latin american community consists of asian, african, european, and native american peoples, and the commnets of this bad apple are not indicitive of those views shared by the latino community. We are very tolerant of racial differances. We are a global community, and understand that we are not a race but rather5 a culture.

Originally posted by razor1000
theres a lot of good people who come here just to feed their families.

They need to follow our laws. Coming to the U.S. is not a right.

Originally posted by slackerwire

Originally posted by razor1000
theres a lot of good people who come here just to feed their families.

They need to follow our laws. Coming to the U.S. is not a right.

sure what they are doing is illegal i wont contest that, but i understand you know. i dont know what you situation is but a lot of these people just want a better life and getting a visa is not as easy as it sounds. theres a movie called american visa you should wach it and it will give you an idea of what people go trough

so form valid oppinions that are not alienating to those people you are trying to represent.


BTW ...I got warned before trying to reply back to something you said before on another thread I was on about immigration .I was totally out of line and in the wrong thread...my fault but it is distracting.....not related.

getting a visa isn't meant to be easy. We do not need any more unskilled, uneducated people here.

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Originally posted by newyorkee
so form valid oppinions that are not alienating to those people you are trying to represent.


BTW ...I got warned before trying to reply back to something you said before on another thread I was on about immigration .I was totally out of line and in the wrong thread...my fault but it is distracting.....not related.

um i didnt say anything about that

crap double post please erase this one mod

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Originally posted by slackerwire


getting a visa isn't meant to be easy. We do not need any more unskilled, uneducated people here.

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yup you're right about that we sure got enough of those allready

yeah but the whole I can name things the white man has done, and that who is the first person you think of when saying illegal immigrants, it is implying a racial agenda behind policy, and public oppinion.

Originally posted by razor1000



yup you're right about that we sure got enough of those allready

So why would we want to allow more in?

Originally posted by newyorkee
yeah but the whole I can name things the white man has done, and that who is the first person you think of when saying illegal immigrants, it is implying a racial agenda behind policy, and public oppinion.

well NY its not that i'm implying it i'm just saying what on a lot of people's mind and the fact that you know what i'm talking about proves it

It is said in "the art of war" the every person is useful. Even an injured soldier , semingly useless can do those chores that are distracting to training and combat of his commerades. We dont need uneducated people anywhere , but not all jobs have a need for higher levels of learning. some job training should be offered where applicable so as to prepare a compitent and strong work force.

Originally posted by newyorkee
It is said in "the art of war" the every person is useful. Even an injured soldier , semingly useless can do those chores that are distracting to training and combat of his commerades. We dont need uneducated people anywhere , but not all jobs have a need for higher levels of learning. some job training should be offered where applicable so as to prepare a compitent and strong work force.

That is why teenagers used to do the jobs adult illegals do now.

I have proven nothing of the sort... personally I think racism was invented in the current form we know it now as a form to separate the indentured servants of the time from sympathysing with the slaves in similar conditions....mass control.

yes but with the ever proven model of those teenagers moving to higher forms of education and better jobs those jobs in the food service industry for example, are still available to job seeking teens still in HS. Not to mention that Most fast food services are now required by federal law to have ss# for all employees.


plus the number of teens willing to work is questionable from what it was say even thrity years ago...most are just lazzy now a days ...ever hear that?

let me back track a littl...

Originally posted by 11Bravo
Nobody has anything to say about the real terrorist threat facing America?

Dont get me wrong, Im not anti-Mexican or anti-immigration, but when more people enter this country illegally than legally, action must be taken.

By entering America illegally you are already demonstrating a total disreguard for our laws.

Know them by their fruits.

The fact that 700,000 come here illegally every year is alarming.
If even just one half of one percent of those 'illegals' are hardened criminal capable of execution style killings of teenagers, that comes out to 350 terrorists arriving yearly.



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ok so who is starting this whole racial issue; another thing about disregard for the law if us who are citizens can't follow our own laws why would we expect other people to do so. let just be realistic about that. if mexico or canada where better off people from the US would be crossing the border into those countries.

The US is the best country to be at sure other nation have their thing going on but everyone looks to this country because this is the land of freedom and oportunity, and everyone no matter ho stupid deserves a chance at a better life

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Originally posted by newyorkee
yes but with the ever proven model of those teenagers moving to higher forms of education and better jobs those jobs in the food service industry for example, are still available to job seeking teens still in HS. Not to mention that Most fast food services are now required by federal law to have ss# for all employees.


plus the number of teens willing to work is questionable from what it was say even thrity years ago...most are just lazzy now a days ...ever hear that?

I can drive to the "bad part of town" and buy a DL, a SS card, and a food handlers card for $100. That means nothing, I think it's safe to say we all know fast food joints still employ illegals.