Greys, Archons, and Chupacabres Oh My!

reply to post by Octavius Maximus


I certainly am not angry. As David Banner would say "you don't want to see me angry". I appologize but I don't believe in Kings, Emperors, empires, taxes, queens, royal bloodlines, or "great leaders". I think it's all trash, much like religion just with even more bull#. All of the Caesars were hacks, and all of the monarchies upon this planet thus far are for idiots that can't think for themselves. I don't believe in kings, and feel they all should "be pulled". Any man that needs another man or woman to lead them, or middleman their relationship with god? Is no man, but a slave.

My posts contain edits because I take pride in my responses, and often feel like adding things after the fact. I am an author though, so I suspect I take writing and communicating a bit more seriously than you.

I'm sorry if you feel I'm bitchy, or what have you, but you're on my post, you don't see me acting like an erudite retard on your posts, or near your past experiences or memories, because I am a gentlman, not a cad.



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Here is the Thomas Costello interview I was talking about, make what you will of it.

www.thewatcherfiles.com...

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No, I'm saying they are highly advanced. And if they were friendly and happy and chipper and all that crap? Then we'd have cures for cancer, Aids, cleaner transportation, free energy and so on. Not more war,
nastier bullets, and crazier lunatics running about the planet thinking they're reborn gods, and saviors therefore, they have to cleanse the evil.
Which always ends up being innocent women and children. Yeah, that's some terror campaign alright, except the CIA and us are the ultimate terrorist, along with England and our allies. And the East is no better.
China, North Korea, Russia, Iran etc... Same crap is going on there.
They play us against one another, and then collect the spoils when we are weak.

But since our government and them seem happier in programming humans to be stupid and kill rather than be peaceful and teach? We have a serious problem. They see fit in slowly leaking the technology to gain the maximum amount of wallmart floor time. Or in other words.
Each generation gets a smaller and faster computer. Instead of just admitting they had it to begin with, they pretend it's some kind of new fantastic design. That way they milk the most dollars out of technology, because money is more important to them than human lives.

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thank you, I'll certainly let you know what I think. All my best.

Originally posted by Horus8
But since our government and them seem happier in programming humans to be stupid and kill rather than be peaceful and teach? We have a serious problem. They see fit in slowly leaking the technology to gain the maximum amount of wallmart floor time. Or in other words.
Each generation gets a smaller and faster computer. Instead of just admitting they had it to begin with, they pretend it's some kind of new fantastic design. That way they milk the most dollars out of technology, because money is more important to them than human lives.

And who is more responsible for this, humans or reptilians?

To me, this sounds more like human greed then anything.

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Reptilians are, who do you think Eve was dealing with as far as fallen angels in the garden? Human beings have been dealing with these treacherous fallen angels for quite sometime, and they 99% of the time
are liars, backstabbers, and definitely not out for our well being, and if they seem like they are? Then you really need to be worried. Because a reptile that seems out to help you? Is really steering you into something bad, I'd wager.

I think human beings left alone to their own devices would not be as greedy and as war oriented or murderous if it wasn't for some of the
more malign alien forces dangling technology, power, and control in our world leader's faces at every turn of the century for the last 50,000 years.
Greed is a learned trait, and when you are constantly bombarded with the images of success, and money, and fame that our children are? It's easy to see why they respect money and power, more than love and hard work.
They are made to feel that they are less important if they don't posses the kind of money and noteriety that their peers have. It's an unwinnable rat race. Money is a magical talisman, once you touch it, and you are taught that woman and men will respect you more if you have more of it? Greed clouds your very existence at every turn.

[edit on 08/14/2007 by Horus8]

Originally posted by Horus8
I think human beings left alone to their own devices would not be as greedy and as war oriented or murderous if it wasn't for some of the
more malign alien forces dangling technology, power, and control in our world leader's faces at every turn of the century for the last 50,000 years.
Greed is a learned trait, and when you are constantly bombarded with the images of success, and money, and fame that our children are? It's easy to see why they respect money and power, more than love and hard work.
They are made to feel that they are less important if they don't posses the kind of money and notoriety that their peers have. It's an unwinnable rat race. Money is a magical talisman, once you touch it, and you are taught that woman and men will respect you more if you have more of it? Greed clouds your very existence at every turn.

[edit on 08/14/2007 by Horus8]

Very true. Money and power have turned humans into something awful. I know people who truly believe that homeless folks with cheap clothing are worthless. It is quite disgusting.

In my opinion they are not really advanced. they might have technology that we dont have but they have destroyed thier ability to adapt to higher vibrations and because of thier lack of connection to thier higher selves thier vitality is wasting away. I would suggest looking at the new research in torsion fields and DNA it seems to point out that DNA is just a hologram created by resonating fields. Thier are a few experiments that show that DNA can spontaniosly appear in the presence of the right raw materials and fields possibly even in deep space. This could possibly explian how genetic diseases have been cured by qigong and meditation which harness and focus these fields readjusting DNA.
We as humans have alote of potantial that we waste on power struggles and constant sex games and such which zap the bodies vitality and divert spriritual progress. When we understand this the readjusted energy will unlock facets of ourselves that will make us immune to these creatures. projectcamelot.org... check out the david wilcock interview goes into depth about the DNA and ascension material. This is a very comlicated subject but in my experiance these potentials are very real and take a large amount of time and energy to unlock and a huge moral readjustment that is usually not well recieved by friends and others who like reality and think everything is alright with the world.
Just think of everthing as energy and we humans have forgotten that thier is an eternal reserve of it. Becasue we are addicted to taking it from other biengs we cannot take it directly from the source and we have these relationships based on addiction and not growth which cuases inbalance. In my opinion this balance is essential to progress as a species. Many call this love and compassion and it has a feel to it and once you experience it and cultivate it it is easier to "feel" when you are disabling your relationship with this energy.

The link between Archons and Greys has been discussed here a while back.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I certainly am not angry. As David Banner would say "you don't want to see me angry".

Try me.

I appologize but I don't believe in Kings, Emperors, empires, taxes, queens, royal bloodlines, or "great leaders".

Yeah i know, they dont exist. Just like elves, pixies and eskimos.

um...They existed. (except for the elves and pixies i hope)

All of the Caesars were hacks

Ah, luckily you dont generalise.

Im sure you dont even know how to pronounce Caesar.

Any man that needs another man or woman to lead them, or middleman their relationship with god? Is no man, but a slave.

Having one person in charge makes more sense if you want things to be orderly.

My posts contain edits because I take pride in my responses

And you # them up multiple times.

I am an author though, so I suspect I take writing and communicating a bit more seriously than you.

Then by all means tell me the names of your books so i can read them.

but you're on my post, you don't see me acting like an erudite retard on your posts

No, i see you acting like an erudite retard on YOUR posts.

I am a gentlman, not a cad.

Gentleman*

Take PRIDE in your responses

also, a real gentleman would have challenged me to a duel by now.

Then we'd have cures for cancer, Aids, cleaner transportation, free energy and so on

Well if you have the answers to all those already, be my guest and share them.

Not more war,
nastier bullets, and crazier lunatics running about the planet thinking they're reborn gods

Im not a 'reborn' god.

and saviors therefore, they have to cleanse the evil.
Which always ends up being innocent women and children.

This is a grammatical nightmare...

But apart from that, i dont seek to cleanse the evil. I see no evil. I see people who require education. People who are motivated by things which arnt wholesome.

But since our government and them seem happier in programming humans to be stupid and kill rather than be peaceful and teach?

Didnt you say you were in the military?

Each generation gets a smaller and faster computer. Instead of just admitting they had it to begin with

Where is the proof of this statement?

Reptilians are, who do you think Eve was dealing with as far as fallen angels in the garden?

So let us look at this.

firstly, let us assume reptilians cannot take human form. Then where have they been for so long?

Secondly, if we assume they can take human form, then why would one appear before eve in non human form?

thirdly, Adam and Eve and the garden of Eden is a metaphoric story, not something you should take as absolute, or even slight, truth.

It's easy to see why they respect money and power, more than love and hard work.

This is an insult to all people (not only children) who respect love more than power.

Also, you forget intelligence, which is the most important thing in the world.

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I have tried you, you're a dime a dozen. The mall of America is full of people like you.
The difference is you've maintained your program, and you 'work' for the enemy, without even knowing it. You brazenly run amok making fun, and opposing very horrific and insane occurances that are taking place on this planet. You're a mole, a snitch, a rat, a double agent. One of those people that runs around believing half the crap they spew while having done nothing in life other than be sarcastic at the appropriate time, and just slide by. You must be a little brother. You certainly aren't the oldest in your family. I'd say third or fourth in a line of 6, that, or an only child bent on kicking his parents in the shin at every turn of the decade.

A bully if you will, although you're pushing nothing but air, I really have to say, what you're doing by playing the opposition or the 'let's get real people card' is not only a horrifying disservice to the world abroad it's also a sure sign you have some alien technology slammed up your nose into your brain telling you how to be a jackass. This forum makes me wonder. What better place to play pin the tail on the alien than in this cartoon gone dildo-astic geek circle jerk. You're so full of yourself in such a hilariously creepy way I don't know whether to fart and waft it up to my nose to make sure I'm awake, or to just dismiss you as an arsehat that just loves hearing himself talk. A reptillian programmed bumpkin.

If people responded well under one leader? The world would be a great place, not a festival of rape, war, and starvation. Your propaganda is so NWO and so entirely cliche that my only advice to you would be to cut back on the sugar, coffee, and oil, and drink, and realize that the four things I've just stated are all controled on this planet by a few families of crossbred pond scum.

Your personality (which is tinged with bipolar and divinity complex overtones) makes you lose credibility the moment you open your fingers on the keyboard. You never have anything remotely debatable to say, and you don't try to debate at all. You merely judge. You call me a drugged out whatever while I'm totally coherent with my recapitulations; you merely are poking around to argue and fight about everything your mind can't splay open far enough to understand. You just don't have the genetic make-up to evolve into the next density. You're in the fishtank, not the room housing the fishtank. Watch doctor strange love, smoke some '___', quit pretending to be alive. Have kids invest in life, offer something, because as of now you're a waste of energy.

You either have no day job, or you're gay and in love with me.

No offense, but why else stick around if you have nothing to gain?
Unless you call some first year psychology class definable antics normal?
I'd say you have a crush on me. Everyone can tell that you like me,
you're a total bust.


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The difference is you've maintained your program, and you 'work' for the enemy, without even knowing it.

But what if coming here and sowing anarchy and fear and discord is part of the plan!

That means YOUR the enemy! Burn him!

I'd say third or fourth in a line of 6, that or an only child bent on kicking his parents in the shin at every turn of the decade.

Thats Parent, you prick, and i hold my mother in the highest regard and respect her.

A bully if you will

I will not, protecting the weak and combatting the ignorant is what i do.

I really have to say, what you're doing by playing the opposition or the 'let's get real people card' is not only a horrifying disservice to the world abroad?

I know, its so unfair that you have people who say "no you rwrong, your being a moron, get a life".

if i wasnt here, or people like me, who knows what bull# you'd believe?

Obviously your a very angry young man, i dont think you should take everything so seriously, go on a holiday, take your aluminium hat so they dont find your position if your that worried.

It's also a sure sign you have some alien technology slammed up your nose into your brain telling you how to be a jackass.

What? Im being a Jackass because im telling the truth.

Although, i dont think you need technology to be a jackass.

You're so full of yourself in such a hilariously creepy way I don't know whether to fart and waft it up to my nose to make sure I'm awake, or to just dismiss you as an arsehat that just loves hearing himself talk.

You really do that to know if your awake?

...weird.

A reptillian programmed bumpkin.

They must be angry at the shredded remains of a lizard i had to clean up after my cats got to it this morning.

Your propaganda is so NWO and so entirely cliche

No, see theres the thing. To be cliche it needs to have happened before.

And i know my world is New World Order, i know exactly how it will work. It doesnt make it evil, just because i dont focus it at attacking reptilians (with no evidence of their allegience, temperament, or even existence) means its not a good idea?

planet by a few families of crossbred pond scum.

hmmm, they dont look very pond scummy.

Anyway, why dont you go and tell them whos boss?

go on, do it

Your personality which is tinged with bipolar and divinity complex overtones makes you lose credibility the moment you open your fingers on the keyboard.

Bipolar? nah, ive been helping some friends through that though.

Divinity complex? Maybe. Nah, who am i joking. I have no interest in being a god, it means i have to appear infallible, otherwise people wont believe.

No, being a Empire leader shall suffice. It is more realistic.

You never have anything remotely debatable to say, and you don't try to debate at all. You merely judge. You call me a drugged out whatever.

But i did debate, you just made it personal, so i now cease to care about your opinions or ideas.

And you judge me, youve done so since i first appeared and disagreed with your mountain of evidence.

Wait, you didnt have any evidence! Thats right!

Well I'm totally coherent with my recapitulations while you merely are poking around to argue and fight about everything your mind can't splay open far enough to understand.

Yeah, totally coherent while your talking about reptile aliens you saw on your last drug trip.

.You just don't have the genetic make-up to evolve into the next density

Perhaps ive already evolved beyond you, you just are too primitive to understand my arguements?

This simple keyboard doesnt have enough letters to to convey my emotions and ideas.

You're in the fishtank, not the room housing the fishtank.

Now this just doesnt make any sense, i dont even have a fishtank!

Watch doctor strange love, smoke some '___', quit pretending to be alive.

Doctor strange love? That sounds like the most disgusting porno ive ever heard, i think you should quit that habit.

Smoke some '___'? No thanks. I wish to remain INTELLIGENT.

I dont need to pretend to be alive, it happens whether i try or not.

Have kids invest in life, offer something, because as of now you're a waste of energy.

i am a waste of energy because i disagree with you?

Somebody is insecure *pinches your cheeks*

You either have no day job, or you're gay and in love with me.

HAHAHA! Where in the hell did that come from?!

That was the weakest excuse for an arguement so far.

oh wait, didnt you say:

Well I'm totally coherent with my recapitulations while you merely are poking around to argue and fight about everything your mind can't splay open far enough to understand

hehhee.

Well i have a day and night job, they are rather pleasant actually.

And as for being gay, no. Im sorry to burst your bubble but i reserve my body for a smart, beautiful and charming woman.

In love with YOU!? how could anyone...the sheer mechanics of that would require some kind lobotomy!

Nah, im just being mean now.

Oh well, its fun!

Grrr im a reptilian, grrr!

reply to post by Octavius Maximus




It's funny how you say that you protect the weak, and the innocent, though
you have no children, and in all actuality you don't want children they bug the hell out of you. You barely knew your father and that's where all of your child like un-governed rage comes from. He died of either being a total wreck mentally, or a heart attack, but probably a combo shot of both. You envision yourself as one of these white knight characters, but in real life you're a mailman that moonlights as an automobile body repairman. The idea of protecting the innocent appeals to you just so long as you don't have to feed them, clothe them, or change their diapers, and get to know them. So you're like Tom Cruise, in the closet, but since it's a huge closet you pass the time well enough. You're not very good looking, and you have a hard time socializing with women. You're fond of the internet because it allows you to not have to rely on looks and physique to make a point. And since you're a bit short, round, and not so pleasant on the eyes you still can impress the ladies and the lads. However, I'm not impressed.
I think it's all rather cliche, and predictable.

Originally posted by Horus8
We would be supermen. Giants, heros, and gods, and not slaves, again,
and again.
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They have us, and they've had us from before the Egyptians, Babylonians,
Sumerians, Atlantians and Lemurians. Some of us are not what we seem.
Indigenous peoples are of this planet. Caucasions are not,
because they are from Mars, and the moon.
And they are mostly mixed and controled by serpent blood.
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The snake in the garden of eden. Look around you.
This is a food chain, and you are not at the top.
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LITERALLY, the greys are their demons. They even have the
ability to appear as angels, or humans. But everyone's story is different.
This is my story.

Read your post a few times over the last couple of days..really really interesting i will admit.

As this happened 6000 years ago ,Eve & the "snake" (reptile) ,fallen angels & women of earth = giants ..and on it goes..phew ! i am reading up on theories in this category and still learning.

A lot of what your theory/belief makes sense ,i never tbh took reptilians serious until i started adding certain things or is it clues we have to work out?

I could never see a "reptile" (still can't but will explain as i see it) walking around being in charge of the world or so "the leaders/chosen" ,C'MON A REPTILE !! That is "V" & such movies even kiddies movies or like Zathura pops up in my head,then i looked at the eye of the devil..that is what people who believe the reptilian theory describe them as ..the eyes,the licking of the lips (though i myself have a nasty habit of licking mine..i'll check my eyes ..) .So the eye could mean "evil" though they may be scaly do they resemble reptilian as we imagine them? They could be greys,humanoid or whatever race.I do recall on numerous threads on forums that greys have these reptile eyes..hey could be wrong never faced a grey..or a reptilian that walks the walk & talk us outta our bodies.

If they are demonic then they can take on different shapes or so "possess" bodies or get rid of the original and just replicate it ..so shapeshift into any shape they want..demons have that ability.

In the end it comes down to Eve and a reptile,fallen angels and giants,satan ruling the "air" ,God/gods & demons..demons that fell after satan are they part of his clan & others that fell with him did some not just maybe break away from him as well ? And all these fallen angels being superior to us try to make their own race ..just seeing they have taken women before.Then it comes to they could not "create" such a perfect being as God have done ..Therefore "deals" are made with them ..abductions,studies..probing..

Tree of knowledge lead to miserable consequences ..do we need to seek more than what we can handle or wait it out?

I for one believe there is life out there,i also believe they could very well be of demonic forces/creations.Us who relate to alien & demons could be of one/same thing, we get ridiculed among being said that we are just "stupid''.It is all just theories,no one can prove nothing,i can't prove nadda,all forums no one have brought 100% proof "That this is aliens..they are not demons" ..We just cannot prove things and yes i am most likely to be wrong but certain things adds up for me.

That is just me,i love reading everyone's theories,sightings..but we are all here looking for proof without being ignorant to the best we can.

*Apologize for any typo's*



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Thanks for all of your opinions. Have you read the book of Enoch, or the dead sea scrolls?

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No i have not ,sadly some scriptures/books/prophecies that is not available in the Bible ,though i will download them now ,i always wanted to read the dead sea scrolls & Enoch was one i did not know about.

Few others i am after could you maybe supply me a link to these that man hid from us...would be appreciated,trying to get it now ,but always money involved,gotta love and loathe how men do "business".

I take Enoch would be interesting ..so i am looking for that one as i am typing

Got them ,cheers for the tip ..will be reading


lol ..Okay the Scrolls itself is like the Bible ..so so many books ,i thought it was one book ..never too old to learn.

Off topic sorry i see the scrolls have a few same books as the Bible eg: Deuteronomy ,are these incorporated into the Scrolls (meaning do they have more detail or totally different) than the Bible or are they the same books?

[edit on 9/1/2007 by qonone]

It's funny how you say that you protect the weak, and the innocent, though
you have no children, and in all actuality you don't want children they bug the hell out of you.

Not particularily correct. Im undecided about children.

But why are you linking the weak and innocent (i dont say innocent) with children.

Your not a child, are you? Yet you are still weak.

You barely knew your father and that's where all of your child like un-governed rage comes from

Hmmm, true, i barely knew my father. Yet my rage doesnt come from there.

In fact i have no real rage.

. He died of either being a total wreck mentally, or a heart attack, but probably a combo shot of both.

Quite difficult considering he isnt dead.

You envision yourself as one of these white knight characters, but in real life you're a mailman that moonlights as an automobile body repairman

I am neither. What do you invision yourself as?

The idea of protecting the innocent appeals to you just so long as you don't have to feed them, clothe them, or change their diapers, and get to know them.

Again with the children

You're not very good looking, and you have a hard time socializing with women.

hehehehe, almost all of my friends are women

And since you're a bit short, round,

Im 6 foot 5 and nowhere near fat

However, I'm not impressed.

Luckily im not here to impress such a little person.

I think it's all rather cliche, and predictable.

It would be if you got ANYTHING right, yet in this entire thread so far ive seen nothing but lies, stupidity and ignorance.

I wield my spear of strength and bear the shield of rationality. You are the dark stupidity which will not break through my armour.

EDIT, Just a thought. What were you hoping to accomplish with your post? That i would break down and apologise for not bowing down at your feet and acclaiming it to some problem in my childhood?

hehehe, your so cute. Its like your trying to antagonise, but all you manage is a short poking annoyance, the sort a 4 yr old does for 3 hours and doesnt get bored of, but youve managed to keep it going for several days.

I guess you should be commended on your successful regression

*clap clap*

Edit 2, hehehe. something i saw reminded me of you.

www.explosm.net...

[edit on 2-9-2007 by Octavius Maximus]

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"I wield my spear of strength and bear the shield of rationality. You are the dark stupidity which will not break through my armour."




Good god man, we're not playing dungeons and dragons. You truly believe that this is some sort of fantasy game where there is no consequences? You've never been incarcerated by these fanatical neo conservative pond scum, you've never been tortured, threatened, and you've yet to visit the killing fields of Africa and in South and Central America where one gets to witness the Western white man's good Christian work at its finest. In fact you've never left Australia except once to visit England, and a couple times to doll around in Thailand on vacation with mum. You've done squat in life, seen even less, and your opinion is based on your own childhood, and media programmed diatribes bent soley on amusing yourself, and perhaps one or two sycophants you keep around to validate your limpness.

Sadly, I don't need to click on the link, I already know where all of this is going.
However, I guess it's safe to say, you'll be back. The real humor is in the fact that even when aliens do expose themselves to fools like you? You still won't apologize, you'll just flip the whole thing on its ear, and then argue that you knew it all along, and you were just behaving this way to screen out the boogers and kooks. You are the worst of the worst. The spoiled, the saturated, the obesely self impregnated.

Protecting the weak, or the innocent, or however you put it? Is exactly correct, you're protecting yourself. That child locked up in your mind, stroking the gerbal, and pretending everything is going to be alright. Well it's not, and it hasn't been in millenium.

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For now just concentrate on the book of enoch, and jubilee.

Have you heard of the emerald tablets? Or Thoth?