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Greys, Archons, and Chupacabres Oh My!

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posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 12:56 PM
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Oh yes, that makes sense, get help from the world of the pharmaceudical controled head shrinkers, because they're that vested in the mental health of Americans. That's why they put our kids on a bunch of anti-depressants that turn them into gun toting zombies. You're right! I'll get right on that.
Look folks here's another genius! Like Octavius! (a complete cad that thinks egyptians could build pyramids [that we can't even re-create], and the babylonians could build giant ziggurats, and massive city states but these same highly advanced ancient cultures that could cut rocks into degrees of flawlessness that require lasers and diamond tip tools these days couldn't build an 8 story apartment complex! This guy Daddy420, thinks the mental health INDUSTRY is really into "helping" your mental health. That's rich, they're into making money dude, period.


[edit on 08/14/2007 by Horus8]




posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 01:04 PM
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reply to post by Octavius Maximus
 


I hate to be the one to burst that durigible full of hot air that you're passing off as a head, but

www.16pi2.com...

of course these are just SPECULATIONS (yeah right), but since we live in a society of advanced technologies that only 1% of us understand deducing that other cultures throughout history were as advanced as we are now, if not more? Is a given, not a speculation.



posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 08:13 PM
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hehehe, that site you sent me too has alot of personal opinion.

Notice the "Vacuum tubes" one? Ive already opened some peoples eyes to what that could mean symbolically in a different thread.


This one made me laugh

"Is it mere coincidence that the Aether numbers for the range produce the following surface plot, resembling the cherubs on the top of the simulated ark above? "

Of course it does, the ark you have above is an artists rendition...


And they dont really resemble them at all.




of course these are just SPECULATIONS (yeah right)


Mostly, yes they are.

The only things they say which are correct is "We dont know what these may mean"


but since we live in a society of advanced technologies that only 1% of us understand deducing that other cultures throughout history were as advanced as we are now, if not more? Is a given, not a speculation.


Its speculation, not a given.

Anyway, your last post i give a 3/10, seriously? Wheres the anger? The insults?

Are you ill?



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 01:23 PM
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The anger and the insults? LMAO, do you really think after being in the special forces and fighting in a war a little guy like you could actually
perturb me in anyway? After years of having better men scream down my face the worst insults imaginable, living underwater, and running a million miles a week? You're like a gnat that dreams of being a mosquito, but both bug regardless, just not me. I eat bugs in the jungle, and can turn my own urine into a beverage, so you hardly move me.
Unless you're talking about peristalsis.

I react the same to everyone, unless I'm threatened, and you're hardly a threat. You remind me of this kid I once beat the hell out of in highschool, biggest prick in our class, slung so much hot air everyone just eventually ignored him, or kicked his ass silly. Know where he is now? In his parent's basement getting fat on fritos and pepsi; palming a chicks with wee-wee's magazine.

You've amounted to nothing in youth, and you've amounted to nothing in adulthood. I only respect people that have put themselves out there to be respected. And you've not the balls to do that. You're a (...).
In other words, no big deal, except in your own mind.

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removed personal attack

please read the T&C's

2) Behavior: You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.





[edit on 7/9/07 by masqua]



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 03:13 PM
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Hi Horus,

Is the movie D-War, coming out in a few days, reptilian propaganda?

It just seems very strange, this movie is about dragons invading the planet. Although it could just be a director's crazy idea.

imdb.com...



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 06:08 PM
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reply to post by GeeGee
 


There are scores of movies and books that clue the public into the real agenda mixed with disinformation. Shape changers, vampires, alien flicks, tv shows, dragons, reptiles dressed up as people. It's all propoganda.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Horus8
I said most caucasions, however, we're talking 30,000 to one hundred thousand years ago, that's when the caucausion race fled mars after warring with the reptilians, and went to the moon, and earth, and then finally after another war on the moon they completely migrated to the earth. This answers that age old addage of how and why some races as the Sumerians and Egyptians appear to have materialized on this planet with their cultures and technology already advanced and intact. Jesus said "drink my blood and eat my body in remembrance of me" and this is exactly what the reptiles do. The snake in the garden of eden represents the mixing of reptilian DNA with human DNA. The reptilians are very caste oriented and use a feudal monarchy like system to control and operate. They don't waste their time with caucasions out of this royal bloodline chain of command. They work through an ancient chain of bloodlines and families that date back tens of thousands of years. Even in the bible it states that the fallen angels fell to earth in order to take up families with the daughters of man. So yes, you certainly are not assisting them by policing the world, but since you're not exactly doing anything to stop them, you might as well be a part of the conspiracy. Like being a witness to murder, but in too much of a hurry to stop and help. We are all guilty, and we are all hypnotized and programmed.


thefatlady replies:

I'm not sure I believe in aliens, but I sure do believe in MKULTRA programming/military programming. Seek out other survivors for help and support. We need you too.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Horus8
reply to post by Dad52001r
 


Oh yes, that makes sense, get help from the world of the pharmaceudical controled head shrinkers, because they're that vested in the mental health of Americans. That's why they put our kids on a bunch of anti-depressants that turn them into gun toting zombies. You're right! I'll get right on that.
Look folks here's another genius! Like Octavius! (a complete cad that thinks egyptians could build pyramids [that we can't even re-create], and the babylonians could build giant ziggurats, and massive city states but these same highly advanced ancient cultures that could cut rocks into degrees of flawlessness that require lasers and diamond tip tools these days couldn't build an 8 story apartment complex! This guy Daddy420, thinks the mental health INDUSTRY is really into "helping" your mental health. That's rich, they're into making money dude, period.


[edit on 08/14/2007 by Horus8]


thefatlady replies:

Couldn't have said it better myself. By the way, did you know that Bush was making his plans to attend the Virginia massacre memorial weeks BEFORE it happened? They drugged, tortured, and programmed that kid and set him to go off! My objections to the fact that we were planning security for Bush to attend the memorial for 30 people who had not been murdered yet earned me a lovely little trip to a Gov't mental health gulag. There were a number of people there who objected, including a 3 star general. For your own situation, google electronic harassment or MKULTRA. Go to nationalcaresociety.org or freedomfchs.com .



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 07:46 PM
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The anger and the insults? LMAO, do you really think after being in the special forces and fighting in a war a little guy like you could actually
perturb me in anyway? After years of having better men scream down my face the worst insults imaginable, living underwater, and running a million miles a week? You're like a gnat that dreams of being a mosquito, but both bug regardless, just not me. I eat bugs in the jungle, and can turn my own urine into a beverage, so you hardly move me.
Unless you're talking about peristalsis.

I react the same to everyone, unless I'm threatened, and you're hardly a threat. You remind me of this kid I once beat the hell out of in highschool, biggest prick in our class, slung so much hot air everyone just eventually ignored him, or kicked his ass silly. Know where he is now? In his parent's basement getting fat on fritos and pepsi; palming a chicks with wee-wee's magazine.

You've amounted to nothing in youth, and you've amounted to nothing in adulthood. I only respect people that have put themselves out there to be respected. And you've not the balls to do that. You're a flat foot.
In other words, no big deal, except in your own mind



you are so (...) its not funny.

Look:

You start your post saying this:




The anger and the insults? LMAO, do you really think after being in the special forces and fighting in a war a little guy like you could actually
perturb me in anyway?


and then the rest of your post is insults


(...)


So, are you also so (...) that dont have a real answer for my post, so you resort to trying to annoy me?

heh, thought so.

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Mod edit - removed personal attacks

Please read the T&C's

2) Behavior: You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.




[edit on 7/9/07 by masqua]



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 09:32 PM
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I can't explain in words how much I want to dismiss you as just another loony and get on with life.

But now that you have me all worked up, hopeless, and desparate, please tell me:

How do I 'escape'?

What should I do now? This isn't some human imagination of what the universe is where the answer is always clear, and everything is resolved within a two-hour time span.

So what now? Please enlighten me, if what you say is accurate.

Oh, and I'm not losing faith in God after reading what is on your mind. Everything is just going to Hell, isn't it.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 09:46 PM
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Please stay on topic and refrain from personal attacks.

Remember that Courtesy is mandatory

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 11:59 PM
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Please stay on topic and refrain from personal attacks.

Remember that Courtesy is mandatory


I try, but i shall when Horus8 decides that other viewpoints should be respected, not attacked.

If you notice this thread from the beginning, the hint of disbelief by any person has been attacked most harshly.

The internet is a place where equal treatment should reign. Just because i am here doesnt mean i have to believe everything (or anything) anyone else says. Also, i will stay in this thread because discussion require opposing viewpoints.

I am waiting for Horus8 to begin discussion, but yet whenever i make a point it is ignored in favour of more personal attacks.

Can he legitimise his claims? Can he provide any evidence for his claims? Not all of us see things as 'self evident' as Horus8 and many others do.

Where is the evidence? real conclusive evidence, not other conspiracy theory websites.

i will restate my actual questions for Horus, because he frequently misses them.

"You claim that human beings are too different to have evolved naturally on this planet. You claim that Caucasian people come from mars. What time do you believe white people arrived on earth? What makes you believe this has happened? Why mars specifically?"


"You claim to have seen aliens through the use of narcotics and hallucinogens. Have you considered the fact that these are the delusions of your own mind?"

"How do you respond to the idea that Satan and Daemons were not Reptilian in appearance until much later in the rise of christianity? Before this they were simply dark angels."

"Have you considered the reverse? That your idea of the 'reptilians' has sprung from the images of Satan and Daemons, not the other way round? What is your evidence which proves this to you?"

"If Reptilians are as strong as you claim, and if they do hate humanity. Why have they not destroyed us by now? Why do you claim them to be savage, yet they delight in manipulation? What do they have to gain from manipulating humanity?"

I have many more i have already asked. You have refused beforehand, or even just ignored them. This is one of the many reasons why i dont believe you. The others include a lack of evidence and a reliance on drugs to experience these things.


[edit on 8-9-2007 by Octavius Maximus]



posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 06:58 AM
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Great thread Horus8.

It reminds me much of the Réalisme fantastique as mentioned in Morning of the Magicians

A reality so absurd in its design that we simply cannot apprehend it and so create and/or subscribe to the illusion in place; the simple one that we can all relate to and understand.

The one that is currently being manipulated by the 'machine' to turn over profit and souls for mammon (excuse my lack of capitalization).

Keep the masses poisoned and ignorant of what we can achieve together, divide and conquer - business as usual.



posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 09:40 AM
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If i was reptillian id be cold blooded.

Im from the moon this is the weirdest racism i have ever read........



posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 05:46 PM
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Horus8,

I have followed this thread, albeit a bit late (I started reading this about 2 days ago). Some of your beliefs, ideas and perhaps what you are sure of as the facts, I can accept. I am particularly intrigued by the astral plane theory/other dimensions of reality. I am a beliver in life outside this planet and I am sure certain people have encountered aliens like you claim to have. But there is a limit and I think certain things you have said are pushing the boundaries of sanity:


Originally posted by Horus8
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Indigenous peoples are of this planet. Caucasions are not,
because they are from Mars, and the moon.
And they are mostly mixed and controled by serpent blood.


What do you have to back this up?

I too find this slightly racist. And I agree with the post above, It is certainly "weird" racism in my opinion.

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posted on Sep, 10 2007 @ 04:09 PM
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What do I have to back this up? Well for one, this is common knowledge among the white elite on this planet. And organizations such as the freemasons and the OTO once you reach a certain degree teach this. In fact president Bush believes this. Everyone out of the skull and bones organization knows this. And george Bush senior certainly preaches this.
But I'm sure if you google Arizona Wilder you'll learn a couple things yourself. Have fun.



posted on Sep, 10 2007 @ 04:10 PM
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No weirder than your illiteracy.



posted on Sep, 10 2007 @ 04:26 PM
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Racism? How does racism play into this. That's rather amusing. you must be caucasion. Well, take a look at what cecil rhodes did to africa, what andrew jackson did to native americans, and what happens everyday to indigenous people all over the planet that are being starved, eradicated, lied to, diseased, and severly taken advantage of by the corporate white elite, and zionist jews out for more gold, gems, oil, and land, and then call me a racist so that I can laugh at you some more. What are you, retarded? you think I'm racist, because I expose the fact that german, russian, european, and american white elite, along with zionist jews and masonic organizations have for years been the most race oriented murderous villians on the face of the planet bent on not only stealing all of the land from indians and indigenous people, but wiping them literally off the face of the earth. I'm caucasion and indian mixed, and I'm not afraid to expose the fact that INDEED caucasions control this planet, and they do it with murderous treachory. Even the history books do not hide this, they slightly disguise it, but it's there for all to discover. the Boar wars, Ghost Dance, the trail of tears, the list goes on and on, but yeah, call me racist. Just because you yourself consider yourself to be white, but not racist, does not mean the officials you elect into office share your same warm feelings. they'd just as soon kill a queer for christ, as hang an african, or skin in indian if they were in their way of making MORE MONEY. They just do it these days on a nicer level, by starving them, making them fight one another, taking their fresh water and polluting it, hiring them for crap wages to do massive amounts of work that no one in their right mind wants to do, and basically giving them the educations of 6 year olds to survive and feed their families with. are these people not human beings too. Because I certainly don't think the white elite on this planet is human. they certainly have no problem sacrificing children, and women, for their money oriented wars. But yeah, call me the racist, that's genius. You're really up on things. You are very informed.



[edit on 08/14/2007 by Horus8]



posted on Sep, 10 2007 @ 04:54 PM
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It already is hell. They just give the smart ones a bunch of money to not let everyone else in on it, unless you're too smart, then they steal your ideas, claim you're crazy, or out for treason, and then they incarcerate you, or murder you. That's the American way. A little programming, a little lottery, the chance for another raise, a nice time share with your boss and his family in Telluride, and an endless pile of porno, and penis and boob pills, and just like that the population forgets EVERYTHING that matters. they give you god and religion too, but they forget to tell you that god hates minorities, although minorities give all of their money to the church. Just to see the mother mary in a donut somewhere in guadalejara.



posted on Sep, 10 2007 @ 05:19 PM
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""You claim that human beings are too different to have evolved naturally on this planet. You claim that Caucasian people come from mars. What time do you believe white people arrived on earth? What makes you believe this has happened? Why mars specifically?"

No, I said caucasions, not all human beings. I believe that all races originated on this planet except for the caucasions, but I certainly could be wrong. And there certainly could be a mixture of truth and lies in this.
I know for a fact that their are structures on the moon and mars. I know they are very very old, but who's to say who built them and why.


"You claim to have seen aliens through the use of narcotics and hallucinogens. Have you considered the fact that these are the delusions of your own mind?"

I also claimed to have seen and talked to aliens without any narcotics.
Unless you have me pegged as a 9 year old drug addict. these events started when I was a child, and I certainly was not on drugs.

"How do you respond to the idea that Satan and Daemons were not Reptilian in appearance until much later in the rise of christianity? Before this they were simply dark angels."

Actually, my research is based on mythology and legends and lore that exists and has existed long before Christianity, and long before the dark ages, so... Dragon like demons and amphibian like monsters and reptilians were quite common well before the christians drew up a new devil to rip people off with in the middle ages.

"Have you considered the reverse? That your idea of the 'reptilians' has sprung from the images of Satan and Daemons, not the other way round? What is your evidence which proves this to you?"


I believe that my last answer deals with this same question

"If Reptilians are as strong as you claim, and if they do hate humanity. Why have they not destroyed us by now? Why do you claim them to be savage, yet they delight in manipulation? What do they have to gain from manipulating humanity?"

They let us destroy ourselves. And they've destroyed us many times. the human race has been damn near wiped off of this planet quite a few times in the last 300,000 years. They gain free labor, free minerals, and ores. a readilly available food source and work force, and power source.
the feed off of our fear, discomfort, pain, and flesh and blood. they do the same thing to us that kings and queens have been doing to their subjects forever. take advantage of them, and keep them stupid and penned for use later. they use our own leaders against us to achieve this, and in exchange the few selected get to be rich and powerful and pampered while the majoritty get to suffer.

"I have many more i have already asked. You have refused beforehand, or even just ignored them. This is one of the many reasons why i dont believe you. The others include a lack of evidence and a reliance on drugs to experience these things. "

You know, you've read absolutely nothing in this thread. You are so off base, I'm not even going to begin to explain it back to you. but anyone that has read this thread will find that I've already answered these questions for you and many others, many times. Now I'm just repeating myself, again. maybe this time you'll actually read it, instead of just dismissing everything as drug use which is apparently how you handle all of the outside of the box challenges you're faced with in life. Yeah, just blame it on all of us being drug addicts. Boy, that was some joint! Because we're all having the same nightmare; even the people that aren't high. What are you going to tell the starving african child that w justatched his parents murdered, raped and burnt to death over a cow, some wheat chaffe, and a religious disagreement? that he's high too?



[edit on 08/14/2007 by Horus8]



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