[HOAX] Haiti UFO Video - YouTube - [HOAX], page 82

reply to post by casu10

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because I'm too lazzy to remember my password and ufo haiti one has much more views
but I will check DR soon.

reply to post by ummofriend

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Shall we expect the "perfect hoax"?
I mean the "undebunkeable" one?
Can you describe how's in your a opinion a "perfect hoax"
by the technical point of view?
How much time and how many people should be needed?
How much money?

While I appreciate the current live conversation and all, we have a situation in which ummofriend not only posted a Hoax for the world, but he also hyped his own fake here and here, attempting to influence the debate on this very thread in his favor. Regardless, this was labeled a hoax in a few days. The question is, will he be treated like GhostRaven and summarily banned for misconduct specifically on this forum, or allowed to continue 'defending' himself. I don't see much worthwhile explanation forthcoming here, myself. What's the deal here?

reply to post by ummofriend

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Actually, Jakzun7 (sp?) was one of the folks, who like myself, thought the video in the Haiti footage was real. How did he de-bunk this?

Also, just gotta add.....For the record. The reason that we believe ummofriend is in reality the same person as Barzolff814 is because Tuning Spork sent Barzolff814 a key word to post via his YouTube account. And he did, Correct?

Was this a private e-mail or does it appear on YouTube comment page?
If so, what page? Could Tuning Spork provide link to that page?

Not that I am doubting Tuning Spork who is a valued member of this forum, but I would like to insure why we are 100% certain we are not on another wild goose chase?

One last thought and with all due respect. If in-fact ummofriend is the wildly talented CGI artist who perpetrated this hoax, then I liken him to a world-class graffiti artist. Somone who takes great pride in their work via anonymity. I am walking barefoot on the chain-link fence with those sharp, twisty things on top. Ouch...

regards...kk


fat finger edits

[edit on 22-8-2007 by kinda kurious]

reply to post by ummofriend

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I find that interesting “Catch me if you can”
Is the perfect hoax one that everyone believes or one that no one can disprove?

reply to post by internos

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internos,

I think the perfect hoax's definition will shift with time.
Look at Ray Harryaussen's work, as a child I couldn't comprehend how something so realistic was achieved. When Terminator came out, everybody thought , this is it, we've reached ultimate life-like visual effects.
Take a look at it today and your eyes are assaulted by the crudeness of the effects.
I believe the perfect hoax can only be perfect in its time before the means used to create it become obsolete.
All mine are already dated because everyone is now accustomed to Vue6 veneer.
Look at Adamski's shots today, you can barely contain laughter thinking back then you could enslave a whole sect bby taking photographs of a couple frying pans.
You eye is always confronted to reality. You can fool it sometimes but it gets wise pretty fast.
It's too easy to post fakes on youtube because the definition is so poor you can't really make it out, so with a little talent and skills you can conceal things that would appear on a video format.
And yes, the perfect hoax requires a lot of money because much more than a perfect video is required.
You also need credible testimonies, and all sorts of elaborate ploys.

reply to post by casu10

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Whether it’s cgi or not is only part of it
It’s the witness collaboration that counts the most
This hoax just barely made the main stream media and the Isaac/drones have never hit the main stream media
And yet the Chicago airport hit the main stream media in an instance, when at the time there were no pictures to be had, but they had the most important thing of all, eyewitness testimony
The mainstream press learned long ago what holds the most water

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