Originally posted by 11 11
ItMustEnd himself has claimed that multiple members of the group knew the video would reach ATS "instantly". Also, a member of the group is here right now giving us the info. So that only means one thing....

...when I said "the hoaxer is in this thread", I wasn't wrong.

What are you talking about?

When you said the hoaxer was in this thread you were talking about Jakzun37. You didn't even believe ItHasToEnd when he first came out!

So.. now he was the hoaxer you were talking about and you were right. Ok...

Barzollf814 (UFO Haiti) and Ladave1969 (UFO Dominican Republic) are the same guy?

Ladave last login was 2 days ago and Barzollf 1 hour ago.

By the way, if the puzzle is right, our friend ItHasTo End is actually Ladave1969 who uploaded the DR video. Nothing else fits. Am I right?

Originally posted by 11 11
Don't get the Dominican UFO and this Haiti UFO mixed. The way I see it, is the Dominican is 100% CGI, while the Haiti one is half video half CGI.

Whaaaaaaaaaat. You NEVER admitted that either video was anything BUT CGI.

Is it me? Can't wait to hear ya back peddle out of this one. Half and Half, like in my coffee? I was at least willing to meet you half way on this.

"Stepped on a pop top, blew out my FLIP FLOP."

regards...kk


[edit on 13-8-2007 by kinda kurious]

I must go now, but this wont be the last you hear from me, Friday remember, or even earlier if I can get my hands on certain material. I would like to take this opportunity on behalf of everyone who was involved with the creation of these videos to say sorry, as I know most, if not all, will never do this. As I stated early on, I was never in it to fool anybody into believing this was real. If I had known from the outset this was going to be the case, I would have never had agreed to it. You may say that I could have thrown in the towel early on but up until afew days prior to it being uploaded to YouTube I had no idea this was going to happen, the only clue I got was when the project was almost finished and I heard the words "Ya know, we could pull off one of the biggest UFO hoaxes of all time with this," which I mentioned in an early post. I also want to take this oppertunity to tell you all that I DO believe in extraterrestrial life and I HAVE seen real UFOs, what I don't believe in is people who hoax this sort of thing to fool members of the public with.

Where and how have you seen UFO's?

Guys,

The man is here willing to answer questions and you keep bickering one another

Ok,

Just because someone comes forward and says...look...I did this!!! Does that mean it's true? I mean by this...ok.....let's see....

My fathers second cousin's fathers' roomate killed JFK from the grassy noll.
There!!! Mystery solved!!


Hellooooooo? Anyone at all check out what i'm taliking about with the comparrison???? This is rediculous.......

It could be nothing but, I cannot be the only person to notice this!!!!

'Whaaaaaaaaaat. You NEVER admitted that either video was anything BUT CGI.

Is it me? Can't wait to hear ya back peddle out of this one. Half and Half, like in my coffee? I was at least willing to meet you half way on this.

"Stepped on a pop top, blew out my FLIP FLOP."

regards...kk'


It just keeps getting better by the minute

J.

ItHasToEnd left the building

It's really interesting that many of you in this thread have spent all day trying to debunk this footage, almost as if it were your job to do so.

One question: Why would anyone waste their time trying to create a video of fake footage? What purpose does it serve aside from confusing people?
Nobody in their right mind would waste their time creating fake cgi beamships and anti gravity devices. This footage is as real as it gets. I always get a kick out of watching everyone clamour to these threads and try to debunk them as fake. Nice try people, but whomever you work for, or what ever your job title is, some people can see right through it. This includes ATS Admin.

'I also want to take this oppertunity to tell you all that I DO believe in extraterrestrial life and I HAVE seen real UFOs, what I don't believe in is people who hoax this sort of thing to fool members of the public with.'

Good on ya! We wait to see the evidence then....

J.

11:11

I believe what you are saying last post and you know more than I do. But you are the CGI expert and I just called you out here... I've done it before here too with other experts.

If I can see these things with my unprofessional eyes than how much attention to detail are you paying this subject? Don't let your desires get in the way of your judgement either man.

Anyways, we all slip up, what is important is the truth and nobody knows what it is yet. At least we have a filmed background here with potentially CGI superimposed but I even doubt that. I think what we are seeing is real but are they ufo's? The last few seconds of footage in the first film is what convinces me that it is likely real. No models can make that kind of maneouver and the work is way too good quality for amateurs to do. But I can allow that I am wrong on this. We could have a studio doing this kind of work but for what reason?

Cool thanks. It was really well done, shame there was a few details overlooked or we might never have sussed it.