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Zionism, Anti-Semitism and all those other big words.

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posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 07:55 PM
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Pretty much as a rule, when someone talks about Israel and the Jews in a negative light, they are bound to be labeled an anti-semite at some point.

Why are the defenders of the state of Israel and the Jews so, well, defensive?

Seeing as the Prime Ministers of Israel "should" be representatives of the people of Israel, I direct you to the following page of quotes from the various Prime Ministers of Israel.

Quotes PM's Israel

Upon reading these, can there be any question as to WHY the "evil Arabs" are so against the peoples of Israel?

Of course, it could be said that a whole group of people can't be punished for the feelings of a few, however, isn't that EXACTLY what the people of Israel are doing? I don't see them singling out certain Arabs (Palestinians) to target. When they speak of driving them from their homeland, they don't state anywhere that they wish to drive the undesirables of that group away. They speak of driving the entire groups out.

My main question in the particular instance of the Jews and Palestinians is this; How is the Jewish extermination and mass removal of the Palestinians any different than the Nazi extermination and mass removal of the Jews?

Is it possible that the Jewish people have historically been disliked and distrusted for a legitimate reason?


Jasn




posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 08:07 PM
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There are plenty of quotes to go around on both sides. I don't know what answer to give you because you have obviously made up your mind, the subjective piece wrote above is proof of that. If you are not a jew or an arab, maybe you are, but if you are an outside third party it is to best interest for yourself to look into both cases with equal observation. If you cannot be fair and objective, logical, with your reasoning then you make 99.99% of humans who jump on the band wagon to give some meaning to their unsatisfying boring lives.

Get off the internet and into school, once you have some formal education then come back and voice your opinion. If not then no one is going to give a # what another sheeple has to say.



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by BostonOrange
There are plenty of quotes to go around on both sides. I don't know what answer to give you because you have obviously made up your mind, the subjective piece wrote above is proof of that. If you are not a jew or an arab, maybe you are, but if you are an outside third party it is to best interest for yourself to look into both cases with equal observation. If you cannot be fair and objective, logical, with your reasoning then you make 99.99% of humans who jump on the band wagon to give some meaning to their unsatisfying boring lives.

Get off the internet and into school, once you have some formal education then come back and voice your opinion. If not then no one is going to give a # what another sheeple has to say.


1. I'm no sheep. I think you made this point for me when you stated that I had "made up my mind". Yes, I'm capable of thinking for myself. Thanx.

2. I am also aware that there are many quotes from both sides. However, I have known many Jews and many Arabs and I personally have heard more caring and "sensability" from the Arabs I know. The Jews I know tend to only support other Jews and live with a "to hell with everyone else" mentality.

3. I did not post this as a dissertation on the state of the Arab world. Also, nowhere here have I been unfair or unobjectionable. I am very open to any opinions those here have, otherwise I would have kept my mouth shut. I just find the words of some of the Israeli Prime Ministers to be quite sad. You would think that a "group" that has been so oppressed (this fact I also doubt just so you know and to give you more ammo for your insults) would be more apt to NOT oppress those around them. However, in the case of the Palestinians and the Arabs, their words seem to indicate the exact opposite. That opposite being a wanton and evil oppression of the Arab people.


Perhaps you should look in the mirror and wonder if you are one of those "sheeple" you talk about. I am not 100% about my feelings regarding the state of Israel and it's people, however, I do look at the overall evidence that I come across and tend to lean a certain way based upon the evidence I have seen thusfar. However if further (and different) information comes to light at a later date, I am very apt to change my mind. Yep, the beauty of being able to think for myself.


Jasn

EDIT: Just as a note, I have plenty of "formal education". You know the best thing it ever taught me? Don't trust everything you are told, go out and find the answers for yourself.

EDIT 2: After having taken the time to read your previous posts throughout various other threads, I have come to the conclusion that have yet to post anything of merit here at ATS (other than your GOV SUPERCOMPUTERS thread which is a tad interesting and shows signs of independent thought). Therefore, I will, for the time being, look at your reply here as nothing more than you trying to up your "points" and post count. Of course, if you at any point post anything here of any validity I will gladly admit that I was wrong about you. Take care.

[edit on 8-8-2007 by SimiusDei]

[edit on 8-8-2007 by SimiusDei]



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