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The Truth About Aliens : It’s The Animals Stupid

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posted on Aug, 7 2007 @ 07:49 PM
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We humans are braggadocios bunch. We boast of our enlightened intelligence and pontificate on the musings of why perhaps, aliens are attempting to contact us, or avoid us, or harm us, or help us.

After all, we are the supreme beings on this planet. Why else are they possibly here but to contact us? With the myriad of infinite speculation on disclosure, contact, crop circles, sightings and the like, I would like to propose a simple reason.

They don’t care about us, they care about our animals.

The aliens are here because our big blue marble supports the most diverse animal species in the entire solar system. This planet that we humans happen to call home supports the most unique ecosystem in the galaxy.

They are here for ants and antelopes.
They are here for bats and beavers and bears.
They are here for cats and cows .
They are here for dolphins, dogs and deer.
I could go through the entire alphabet, but hate to tell you, they are not here for us. Sorry.

Our earth is like an ark. We are not it’s guardians, but simply cohabitants. . They monitor our co-existence and they insure we don’t destroy any further fragile resources or cause any further species to become extinct.

We are not the “Zoo Keepers” of the planet, as we too are simply in this big round cage. We think that we “keep” the animals in zoos and pastures and fish tanks and cages and barns and think that we control them. But we don’t at all. Perhaps the aliens know how to communicate with our animals in ways we do not. They already told them not to worry.

We eat the animals and kill them for their “taste” and our “pleasure”. We destroy them for their ivory or because we think their fins or horns are aphrodisiacs. We kill them to have nice seats in our cars and nice shoes.

After all, we are humans. We "deserve" such things. We are "superior".

But the aliens worry that we over-fish the oceans, and destroy the forests and devour the earth which comprise the animal habitat. We are too selfish and naive to realize that we are not destroying “our” animals, but theirs.

This planet does not require humans for the continued existence of animals to survive. Humans depend on animals for survival, but contrary to this, animals do not depend on humans. We are, in fact, their largest detriment to survival.

We do more to threaten and harm the plethora of animal species on this earth and the aliens know that. They allow us ignorant humans to continue to survive until they are ready to fulfill their ultimate purpose or need for our planets greatest resource, our animals. Until then, they don’t avoid us or attempt to contact us or care if we see them. I am sure they have a master plan to simply make us go away, and until then, we just sit here, stare at the sky and wait for enlightenment.

The answer is quite simple. Humans have egos, animals do not.

I doubt the aliens are here to kill all of the animals like we humans do, but rather preserve them for all eternity. Perhaps one day the animals will once again dominate the earth. How fitting that we humans will be the ones in cages.

But who knows? I could be wrong. Just in case...hug your dog or cat today.

Regards…kk



[edit on 7-8-2007 by kinda kurious]




posted on Aug, 7 2007 @ 07:52 PM
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You Sir, are a decent writer.

I think I'll leave it at that.

Regards,
Lex



posted on Aug, 7 2007 @ 08:03 PM
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wow, you are a GOD, this is the most intersting thing I have read all day. It really makes sense. I think they are here for us too, but yeah man...the life we have all around us. I wouldnt travel how ever much beligerant amount of distance just to get shot at or video taped like paris hilton by paperazzi. I think you have a valid point...the word here that really struck me was the reference to our planet being an ark. Awsome....



posted on Aug, 7 2007 @ 11:21 PM
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Let me take it a step further. What if the aliens we have been looking for are the animals that inhabit earth. Animals live in perfect harmony with each other, by coexisting in ecosystems. Ecosystems are a never ending circle of harmonies existence between different species of animals. To accomplish such a task can only be extraterrestrial, because humans have been trying to do such a thing since our existence on this planet. Animals have created such a peace that the survival of one species is determined by the species below it in the food chain. Human ego would never let so-called superior humans in-trust their survival on a lower human. All species of life on this planet have achieved perfection of living, except humans. Maybe we are the highest on the food chain, but we are the lowest on the life chain.

Look around at the perfect that is nature, and tell me if happiness does not exist in natures ignorant bliss.



posted on Aug, 7 2007 @ 11:25 PM
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I have to disagree. If it was us doing the spying on another planet, and we found intelligent life, we would definitely look at them. With that said, we would look at everything else there is to look at, such as animals.



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 07:41 AM
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There are more interesting things than intelligent life, 3 Libras. Who's to say that after viewing hundreds of planets with intelligent lifeforms on them who think they are the dominant species, these aliens are just plain sick of waste and nuclear reactions?

Personally, if I found Earth and witnessed all the wonderful lifeforms on it, then looked at Homo sapiens, I would want to eliminate that species which is threatening the planet and all the other billions of species.

Top-notch post kinda kurious.



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 08:17 AM
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To an intelligent species, with millenia on us in terms of social advancement, technology and science we would be insignificant.

Maybe - to them - we're just like ants.



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 08:24 AM
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Maybe extraterrestials are just here for a kill thrill now and then. Sort've like an interglactic drive-by and then giggle their blanks off. Also sometimes I catch my cat looking at me like he's doing a survey report and I find that irksome.



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 08:40 AM
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yet another thread that makes me want to listen to Amused to Death by Roger Waters.

Very well said Kinda Kurious. Scary to think that the most intelligent and advanced (so we think) life form on the planet can also be the most dangerous and destructive.



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by BostonOrange
Let me take it a step further. What if the aliens we have been looking for are the animals that inhabit earth. Animals live in perfect harmony with each other, by coexisting in ecosystems. Ecosystems are a never ending circle of harmonies existence between different species of animals. To accomplish such a task can only be extraterrestrial, because humans have been trying to do such a thing since our existence on this planet. Animals have created such a peace that the survival of one species is determined by the species below it in the food chain. Human ego would never let so-called superior humans in-trust their survival on a lower human. All species of life on this planet have achieved perfection of living, except humans. Maybe we are the highest on the food chain, but we are the lowest on the life chain.

Look around at the perfect that is nature, and tell me if happiness does not exist in natures ignorant bliss.


Yes I was thinking the same thing. And if you've seen some of the crazy-looking deep sea creatures... they even LOOK like aliens!

Humans think they are the superior ones but they're not. All we've done is destroy this planet and made it more difficult for the animals to live peacefully. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they decided to wipe out the humans completely. Or maybe all of them except for the PETA members



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 03:59 PM
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The answer is quite simple. Humans have egos, animals do not.


Well in the human world we do have egos, well at least we have been told that is one of our traits by human psychologists.

What you have to remember that as a race on Earth we have advanced to the top of the tree in terms that we can pretty well do what we want to rest of the Earths life forms and their enviroments.

Is it an ego that drives humans or just the same old evolutionary force that drives all living things?

Adapt, Expand, Populate !!!

All animals need to feed and therefore kill, not to just feed, but to survive, feed their own kind and so be able to exist. It is not the human ego that is in question but rather our ability to decimate Earths other life forms.

Animals do have egos, if they did not then how would they survive, where would be the young buck to try to supercede and overthrow the leader of the pack, if it didn't happen then the pack would become extinct as soon as the leader had expired and not be replaced. It happens in the human world everyday, except now it is through less aggressive means.

(wars aside) Just added before anyone picks that point out.

Apart from that, OP I did enjoy reading your post.

Wolfie













[edit on 8/8/07 by Wolfie_UK]



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 04:20 PM
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Ok, so you think that animals are more important than people. And also that humans are destroying animals, eating and harvesting their various parts for our pleasure and or fun. Also destroying any chance for the animals to exist in the way that nature intended. You also mentioned that humans should be the ones caged.

Please tell me that you have never used any product made from an animal, or eaten an animal.

One way that you can ease the harm caused to the environment by humans, is to eliminate at least one of them. That is right, you should kill yourself.

Sorry but that is the only logical step for someone who puts nature before humanity.

Worried about your CO2 footprint? Kill yourself!
Worried about displacing wildlife from it's natural habitat? Kill yourself!!
Worried about over fishing? Kill yourself!!
Worried about pollution? Kill yourself!!
Worried that you may harm nature because of the paper you use to wipe your arse? Kill yourself!!



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 05:09 PM
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I think that might be ONE of the aliens' motivations, though all the evidence about paleocontact tends to lead me to believe that aliens are also interested in the cultural evolution of man.



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by neformore
To an intelligent species, with millenia on us in terms of social advancement, technology and science we would be insignificant.

Maybe - to them - we're just like ants.

The difference between an ant and us, and supposed aliens and us being, the aliens are supposedly ''similar'' to us, and likely to die in a one on one bare-handed fight.

Ants and humans however, is a different thing.


And who says they are more "technologically" advanced than us anyway? They being the aliens that is.

Maybe they have focused more on what was important in THEIR society, granting them technology for spaceflight.

Let's take 3 wizards as an example.
The one is master of conjuration, and can conjure up huge dragons of sheer power, other magical beasts, and things that one could think were equal (if not) god..

The other is master of destruction, and can shoot death rays that eradicate all life.

The last one, is master of illusions, can turn invisible, and can cast spells to make people think he is a specific person.

They all became a master at the same time, took about the same effort to reach it, and they became of equal strength and skill (in their ''area'').

Now to a complete stranger unknown to the world of magic (or technology), the master of illusion would be nothing special. he might not even know he's capable of magic and think he's just another person like him.

The stranger might find the master of destruction amazing, to call upon the powers of the god, or even be a messenger of the devil, to shoot these powerful beams of light that eradicate all life, he must be very strong indeed.

The stranger now sees the 3rd magician, and sees him conjure up a gigantic dragon, if the times were right, or his believes, he might even see it as a God.

In HIS perception, one is more powerful than the other.
But they are all equal in skill and strength, the difference lies in the AREA they have that ''strength and skill''.

Now replace magicians with alien with anti-gravity or w/e spaceship.
Human with cure for AIDS.
Human with supermegatonubernukeofsupremepwnageness.

I bet that the stranger would be completely flabbergasted if he saw the sheer power of the nuke of supreme pwnageness.

Moral of the story?
Aliens might be more advanced, yes.
But on ALL aspects of technology? Maybe yes, maybe no.
But I have the guts to bet my 2 cents on it that we have stuff that they don't.

[edit on 8/8/07 by -0mega-]



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by -0mega-
But I have the guts to bet my 2 cents on it that we have stuff that they don't.
[edit on 8/8/07 by -0mega-]


Yes, I guess you are right


However, given the choice between a VW Beetle, and a Mark 5 Hyper Dimnensional Omni Destructo Max Kill Zap-o-Ray, I know which I'd rather have in a firefight - and heres a clue VW don't make it



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 06:45 PM
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To the OP, if they're here for only animals, then why are there human abductions, experiments, implants, and mutilations?



posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by kinda kurious
The answer is quite simple. Humans have egos, animals do not.


You believe animals don't have egos... That makes me visualize a group of fuzzy little puppies frolicking about a field of daisies in perfect, peaceful bliss.

The animal kingdom is hardly so simplistic or innocent though.

Let's look at human ego. To my thinking, ego in humans can be described as our compulsion to get ahead, to achieve a rank or position above that of our peers in order to enjoy status/rewards not afforded to those of lesser standing. Likewise, the lack of ego would translate to equality for all with none seeking to rise above another, and resources shared equally.

If the above descriptives of ego and the lack of ego are acceptable, then the question arises "Can ego be found within the animal kingdom?" I believe it can, and this is exemplified by certain animal males in their drive to attain status/position which is superior to that of their peers, and thus partake of special privileges afforded only to the Alpha male.




Wiki
An alpha male is the top-ranking animal in a social group. Some animals live in a social structure where the more powerful male in the group is decided by either simple play-fights or even very aggressive battles. The current alpha male must defend his ranking from younger members. When he is too old or not strong enough to win, he loses his position in the group.

The result of this is that the alpha male usually has more opportunity to mate with the available females. This system evolved because strong males will produce young which have a better chance for survival.


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In regards to the general argument that Aliens are interested only in the animals of our planet, and not the humans... There are no facts, or even substantial grounds for speculation to consider the possibility.

Numerous reports have existed for years of direct and deliberate Alien interaction with animals as well as humans. Human abductions, human and animal mutilations, etc. I'm not validating the multiple reports and stories as truth, I'm merely acknowledging their existence.

In short, from what we know, Aliens' interest in Earth's species is not exclusive to the animals and considering the cattle mutilation reports which are widely presumed to be associated with Aliens, it's peculiar to believe that Aliens desire to protect the animals of Earth.

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Furthermore, if Aliens' sole interest in our planet involves our animals, then the obvious question arises, why have humans been allowed to survive and technologically evolve to a state in which we can potentially destroy all life on Earth...?

If our animals are of supreme importance and significance somehow to the Aliens, then they easily could have insured the survival and protection of Earth's animals by simply terminating human life on the planet.

Some would argue they're afraid of confrontation due to our modern weaponry. Well, say for instance as a hypothetical that due to present day military capability that humans are somehow a threat to the Aliens if a confrontation arises... Surely an advanced Alien species could have forseen our technological advancement long ago before so much as a firearm was invented, and casually wiped us off the planet.

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Aliens have provided no substantial reason to believe or even speculate that they aren't interested in humans, or that their intentions are solely to ensure the survival and protection of Earth's animals. All collective data points to the contrary.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 08:23 AM
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First, thanks to everyone for the excellent responses and my "applause" from the mods. I certainly appreciate it.

The purpose of my thread was to invite these types of ponderences.


Originally posted by downtown436
Please tell me that you have never used any product made from an animal, or eaten an animal.


I cannot. To do so would be a lie. You will not find a bigger hypocrite than myself. Perhaps it is my guilt which inspired this thread.


Originally posted by downtown436
Kill yourself!!


I need to pay off my mortgage first.


Originally posted by DJMessiah
To the OP, if they're here for only animals, then why are there human abductions, experiments, implants, and mutilations?


So they will best know our weaknesses when the time comes to eradicate the human race?
I don't know. Just a guess.


Originally posted by seeingevil
Furthermore, if Aliens' sole interest in our planet involves our animals, then the obvious question arises, why have humans been allowed to survive and technologically evolve to a state in which we can potentially destroy all life on Earth...?


Thanks See Evil I appreciate your provoking insight. You make some very excellent points. I do not have the answer to your question. It puzzles me as well.

regards...kk

[edit on 9-8-2007 by kinda kurious]



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 02:33 PM
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I like the theory presented here. Very interesting concept. However I disagree. Aliens, at least the stereotypical type we talk about would be even more disconnected form the natural order than we are.

Modern life has dulled our natural senses. Physically, we deteriorate as we become a less physical people, more dependant on technology. We're disconnected from nature in every sense. Bug bites, cold weather, warm weather, all avoided like the plague, because we're used to our happy "comfortable" lives.

When we do in fact get out in nature, we rush around at a hurried pace to try and "see everything." But how much do we really see? Very little.

Now look at the animals. They don't race about the fields, the jungles. They take their time, taking in the scene. But we have things to do!

Could the majority of us survive for a month in the wilderness without all of our gadgets? No. Even many of the most skilled may find a month challenging in certain climates.

Animals, plants, these are looked at as novelties. Quaint pets, neat thinsg to look at in zoos, and on documentaries. They take a second or third place to business demands. Conservation of species? bah. Conservation of profit!

Now, let us look at the aliens, or at least the stereotypical model. They are even more dependent on technology than we are. Their bodies are quite frail. In fact, they are defined by their technology. They require the comforts of their machines to survive, to regulate temperature, to provide shelter. This dependence on technology further isolates them from the natural world.

I look at aliens as "what we will be like" if we continue this path. I'm not saying that's what they are, but it offers a gimpse in the mirror. Aliens in general, seem to be morally neutral in their quest for scientific knowledge. They do not seem emotional. They are definately not physical. Their ultimate quality is the mind. But with all of their knowledge, robbed of their technology, how long could one survive on it's own? If it were truely in touch with nature it should be able to survive indefinately, providing it didn't slip on a rock, or get killed by a predator.

Secondly, animals adapt physically to survive. They grow thicker fur, learn to detect weather, develop digging claws, or learn to climb trees. Animals evolve ways to survive in their enviroment.

Do we humans? No. We adapt by building tools, and the more we focus on our devices, the less need to even learn the physical skills of survival. Without this cultivated awareness of the wilderness, the gap between ourselves and nature grows.

How about the greys? Having a head that must make up the majority of their bodyweight does not serve natural survival too well. They haven't evolved in a manner aligned with nature, themselves.

Even hunting. Instead of stalking a deer through the woods, how many set up stands, got the calls, the scents, the high powered rifle...The more of those things you rely on to make your catch, the less actual skill is required.

The tools are doing the hunting for us. We are becoming dependent on our tools, and not nature. In fact, how many of us would be uncomfortable being outside for a week? How much complaining would there be?

I submit that the reliance upon advanced technology excludes being in touch with nature, and our fellow creatures. As the aliens we most commonly talk about are even more dependent on that technology than we are, they are even less able to communicate with and understand nature.

Reliance upon technology removes you from nature. This dulls your senses, and your connection to nature itself. Aliens have evolved in such a way that they are completely dependent upon their machines to survive. We are marching down that path.

If you don't believe me, jump into a swamp with your clothes on. How miserable of an experience would that be for you? Being smelly, dirty, stinky, wet, bugbitten for hours. You probably could not imagine something much worse. This would be torture for the vast majority of the "civilized" world. Even though there is little to no danger involved in this scenerio, it would be looked at as utterly awful, and unthinkable to most.

Now imagine you're out in the wilderness for awhile, away from your precious tv shows, having to catch your own food, and build your own shelter, not having a schedule by which you can go on, or a deadline for the end of this torment. This would be Hell for so many, absorbed by their comforts, ruled by their creations. It's so easy to buzz about a modern world, rushing around all day, with your life revolving around to gain and loss of money, doing so untily ou die.

Aliens are even worse than we are. If the scenerio I described would be bad for most of us, it would be beyond awful, and fatal for those creatures, so out of touch with nature, and her children.

But this is just me rambling with some "hippie" crap. Can't be any truth to it.



posted on Aug, 13 2007 @ 06:42 AM
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True, yet maybe they could use their technology to help the animals, a lot like us taking care of them in zoos or whatever to keep them from becoming extinct.
You never know, maybe we're assuming that the aliens are morally like us. They might seem to be intense hypocrites in our eyes, worrying how things are so out of tune with nature, while they themselves are so reliant on technology that they think it is part of them.
On the other hand, they might see us as not very intelligent beings (it's true) with no foresight, happily heading ourselves into an environmental disaster, too busy trashing the planet to wonder what we'll do when all our resources finally run out.
What we really need to do so as to work out each other's motives is to see through each others eyes, just look at the bare facts like we knew absolutely nothing about this planet at all.
Just my view, Foffle.



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