Pootie the busy poster!!

Debunker. Truther.

Great more labels. More childish antics.

Maybe people have lives or maybe, just maybe they tire of being belittled? Everyone is entitled to there opinions and ideas, especially here, don't you think? They say have a thick skin. Well I know that I do, but when people insist upon making baseless claims with absolutely NO proof how are we as a group NOT supposed to react?

Am I the only one that takes hiatus from ATS? I doubt it. Some people you can just not reach. Unnerving at best but it is a fact of pretty much every message board. I do not usually set out to debunk, as you call it, anything. I usually just read and chuckle. Somethings are just not worth responding to. Wasted energy typing, such as this.

I tire of the children that reside here nowadays. I know, I could easily just go away and not come back. NOT! I have been here for 3 plus years and it seems to come and go in waves. I am on the verge of babbling so I will stop while I am ahead or behind, however you look at it.

probably so they can make the same point 100000 times in different accounts and make it look like allot of people agree with it....
m and make 20 threads people will be distracted by a day.

that applies to the both sides?or a little more to the debunker side^^

Pootie, you of all people creating this thread is a laugh. I mean, how many different identities do you have? This must be some type pf breach of the agreement you made to come back....

Because they don't want to have to put up with the idiocy and arrogance so rampant in certain people's posts.

Like the old saying about teaching a pig to sing - wastes your time
and annoys the pig (truthers).

Seen some many off the wall and just plain idiotic theories being put out

When someone calls them on the shear illogic and lack of reality of what
they are advocating - they are ignored. I thought purpose of "truth
seeking" was to debate others and form synthesis of available information

I think the real reason there is such a surge in new users that are quick to debunk 9/11 truth is because more and more people everyday are discovering sites like ATS, etc I think in general the population is becoming highly aware of the questions presented about 9/11 and it's official story. I think now is the time people will debunk, but I think it will pass... Ive noticed a rise in the amount of people trying to debunk real concerns about the official 9/11 story... it's a time to violently oppose I think it will soon pass, then our "absurd" theories will become truth.

I don't really have much to say, but i do have other stuff to say that i will post in here. Does anyone ever think it was odd that bush was there in florida that day, quite convienently? While those camera's were taping him reading to children, great alibi? And he just sits there, i don't know if someone has already posted this. But this is the best explanation of the government knowing about it and it did nothing.

Originally posted by hikix

Originally posted by Unisol
well one thing why we hate them so much?

try to debunk that

Who are "we"? Its a good thing we have debunkers on this site, because a lot of things simply are not true! I don't know if you accept every conspiracy theory as fact....

Well said Hikix,I learn alot from debunkers.Everyone has their own opinion,and I respect it.Also remember the old the old saying "theres two sides to every coin."Many folks don't register right away here,until they see something worth voicing their opinion about.

i think most ppl that research as a hobby and actually think open minded enough to post something new or useful as information are here plus the 911 topic should be very important for new users , it shows ppl are wakeing up after slowly figuring out that we have all been lied to on a huge scale and the facts are out there. thats from a new users mind

[edit on 6-8-2007 by snoob]

I have been here for 4 years, so us debunkers as you call it are not all new, just that, most of the 9/11 conspiracy makes no sense, the arguments you present make no sense, Some do and need further explanation. See by heart I am not a debunker, I am a truther lol what ever that is. Its just that the truth does not point to most of the conspiracy arguments presented.

Also alot of people just get tired of you trying to convince they are wrong, they have there opinions and do not feel like being belittled for believing it what is MOST likely the truth. Debunkers explain the faults in your arguments, the real issue here is you do not like it and like to make threads like this to belittle people more.

This will be the last I post on this subject. Be happy with your truth, and talk to other about what you feel. Tell people who do not know about the subject, great but cut these crappy threads out.

(sorry dont have time to read full thread ... sorry if this is already posted)

perhaps ... people join this site seeing the 0/11 forum as "stupid" "immature" or "ridiculous" (god i spelled that wrong) and start hating the truthers... so they feel they have no other action but to join the site to debunk ALL of their ideas....

but as time goes on... they realize... hey... maybe these guys are right... and tend to fade away.... into the darkness... never to debunk again...


(sorry about the spelling errorS)

If by debunker you mean people waiting for new information or proof, it could be because there is nothing new to discuss and this topic turned into a Troll Trap. Notice the warning on top and bottom of this page?


Try coming up with new facts or information and you will find people will post to your threads. Otherwise not much point. No new facts = no new knowledge = why bother

Originally posted by christopher.eugene
then our "absurd" theories will become truth.

Only with proof do theories become truth. Only with proof.

I have found it interesting that often people are attacked as debunker's even though they have never said how they believe. I've been labeled even though I've only posted my feelings on this once. The person I responded too was surprised I believe. Don't assume because someone disagrees with a point they think everything about the topic is wrong. I find it far more incredible when someone agrees with everything without any proof. That is a decision based on emotion with very little gray matter involved.

Without Skeptics / Debunker's you just have a group of people agreeing with each other and no one is motivated to dig for the truth. That is surely a formula for creating more Myths rather than Facts.

Originally posted by malakiem
I don't really have much to say, but i do have other stuff to say that i will post in here. Does anyone ever think it was odd that bush was there in florida that day, quite convienently? While those camera's were taping him reading to children, great alibi? And he just sits there, i don't know if someone has already posted this. But this is the best explanation of the government knowing about it and it did nothing.

You got it malakiem! The debunkers can't go near this part of the story without looking like the administrations lap dog. Seems kinda staged don't you think? I know Mike Moore took the he's in over his head approach, but I just see a totally scripted event designed to make the people who voted for him think he's one us, the shocked and overwhelmed by the events that unfolded that day 6 years ago this september.

thats a super theme u set up there man
i just HATE HATE HATE debunkers

Because we believe in common sense, not paranoia?

Because they don't want to have to put up with the idiocy and arrogance so rampant in certain people's posts.

Exactly correct.

I think some of them are genuine they are simply ignorant on the subject.

Arrogent bull#. Please, because they believe something different than you doesnt make them ignorant.

They post old stuff or most of the time do not make any sense.[/quote[

As much sense as Unisols first post, you mean?

we always search for proof....to proof that we are coorect
they just come here and say its a weather balloon with no proof...

We have proof though, we use your evidence and point out the flaws in your argument.

ok weather baloons dont go mach 8 allright,weather baloons dont disapeare,weather balons dont have sosser shape and glow

Weather balloons pop, weather balloons are round (saucerish when looking at them) and a spotlight (or internal light) makes them glow.

When you find me a video of a weather balloon going mach 8 ill believe you.

by we i mean most ot the people that are how do i say very open minded and ready to belive even a hoax

i have trouble believing that, especially when i saw a person convinced that the sun was trying to kill Mankind.

yes we need reasoning and proof....
but lets say we have a pic of ufo with medium quality
u cant be sure its real
u cant be sure its not real
thats my reasoning

pretty strange reasoning, i think. I could get an unbroken egg and say there are 500 yolks in it. your not allowed to say im wrong?

I just go by that i dont see any Aliens when i look around. I see photos, i see a program named PHOTOSHOP.

I add them all together, there is my evidence.

I think "tired of" is more accurate.

I was sick of the patronising people who use phrases like "open your eyes" and "Sheeple" about 5 minutes after i arrived.

Im just annoyed that people write it at the end of their posts, usually. if they posted it at the start then i could safely ignore the entire post without getting pissed off at humanity.

it seems i flamed again hahaha ok ok im sorry that i insulted when i was talking we should not insult
but atleast i speak the truth

1. Saying "sorry" doesnt make it right.
2. Truth is relative, speaking your beliefs sometimes isnt allowed. Racism for example.

probably so they can make the same point 100000 times in different accounts and make it look like allot of people agree with it....

There is a poster on here called ignoranceisntbliss who i clash on this site fairly often on the global warming issue. It gets annoying when he posts multiple Topics on the same issue and sites HIMSELF as evidence.

Is this what you want?

I think it will soon pass, then our "absurd" theories will become truth.

Alot of the time i find the theories fine scientifically, the motive i dont think is right, though. No government would slaughter that many people to have a chance at slaughtering more people.

While those camera's were taping him reading to children, great alibi?

Why would Bush need an Alibi?! He's not going to sit there with a big moustache and push a plunger down, is he?!

And he just sits there

Thats because he was thinking about what he should do, and Bush isnt a thinker.

The debunkers can't go near this part of the story without looking like the administrations lap dog.

I just did, and im an Aussie. I hate Bush, the only reason im defending him because destroying your own cities economic centre has no plausible motive.

Im a debunker because...I like to Deny ignorance

Probably duplicate users, made from banned and/or members now thought of as fools. Maybe they want it to seem like an extra person agrees with them?

Or most likely: Popularity of ATS has increased so much that there are loads of new average joes who have got no idea about conspiracy theories are signing up?

I don't consider myself a 'debunker' and I try to stay open to the plethora of theories presented to explain the event and compare these to the shocking images I saw that day. The theories presented range from the plausible to the fantasticly implausible and one of them may be accurate but which one.

Healthy discussion is a good thing and I'm not about to go forcing my opinions on anyone.

Talk less about eachother and more about the facts of 9/11. We'll get alot further that way and nobody goes home with their feelings hurt.

Closed.